Unemployment Claims

[Jeremy]

In 2007, which is the year I will be claiming against this year, I only worked Outages in VA.  With some foresight, I saw this a problem in collecting unemployment in higher unemployment rate states.  (Since the one I live in is fairly low).  So when I wasn't working for Bartlett, I did some small side gigs so I could officially say I worked in two states.

My problem is, I believe my home state (where I got small seasonal jobs) will run dry far as unemployment funds are concern, fairly fast, and the state VA, where I did all my outages have plenty of unemployment funds in.

My question is, once my funds from Mo runs out (which I know they will fast), will I have to stop filing with PA?  Will I have to claim through VA since that is where 90% of my income came from?  Or does PA even care that Mo funds ran dry?

[illegalsmile]

Hi Jeremy,
Welcome to NukeWorker.com.
If you check this out:
NukeWorker Forum > Career Path > Pay & Salary > Interstate Unemployment Claims
I think you'll find the answers to all of you questions and put more Kasheesh in you pocket t'boot.

[vikingfan]

i flew into boston/logan airport. took the silverline to the south train station. cost me $2. went upstairs to street level walked down essex about 2 blocks to south street. go down about 3 blocks to the end of south street and the job net office is on the left side of the street from the train station to 210 south street. interview process took about 15 minutes. and now let the checks roll in

[Rennhack]

I have to remember to have taxes taken out this year.  They hammered me at tax time.

[vikingfan]

I have to remember to have taxes taken out this year.  They hammered me at tax time.

DITTO !!!

[JessJen]

Has anyone else encountered the office saying it could take 3-5 weeks for a wage determination?  My last hop in mass.  I had a determination before going out the door....I'm thinking something wasn't done right or something along those lines since its week two going on three and haven't heard a thing.

[SloGlo]

I have to remember to have taxes taken out this year.  They hammered me at tax time.

take yer own tax cut out 'n put it in a short term cd or udder investment.  make da monee!

[LaFeet]

Got my check for the layoff following DC Cook.  Still have not been in Mass to file, everything done online or via phone.

There is hope out there after all.

[BeerCourt]

But it is different for you.  You worked in Mass.  You had wages reported to them directly.  Most of the rest of us did not.  We have to file a combined wage claim - by combining wages from other states.  We all know by now that 1) you can do this from any state and 2) Massachusetts pays the most so 3) filing a combined wage claim in Mass. is the best deal.

You do not have to play the same game that we do.

Just for the edification of all who are considering where to file:  If you worked in Mass., do as LaFeet did.  If you did not work there you have to go there.  Either way, it is worth the effort.  They pay the most by far.

[thenukeman]

Many people I know took 5 -10 weeks before they got their first check.  It took me 8 weeks. I think what really messes this up is you claim a quarter that has not finished yet.  I did this as did others I talked to,  Therefore the state or states you are claiming from are slow to get that quarter.

[Remo]

This all real interesting, i have  friend that i have know for years that works at the local Employment office and has for over 20 years. I ask her about this,going to Mass and filing. All she said was is "Don't get Caught." It's not legal."It may be illegal in Ar but legal in Mass. Who knows, 4 sides to every story. I know a lot of people do it and i have thougth about it, but since Ar has raised there's to 414 dollars a week i will just stay here. Remo

[Rennhack]

Don't get caught?!?  It's legal.  You tell the truth.  They ask if you worked in Mass, you say no.  They ask if you live in Mass, you say no.  They ask if you worked in more than one state, you say yes. (Of course, that has to be a true statement).  Then you tell them who you worked for, when you worked for them, and where you worked.  Give them your SSN, then go back home and wait for your checks.

If you don't believe us, or the Mass web site, then call them.  You are getting $10,764 in AR when you should be getting $18,000 in MASS, you loose $7,236.  That's 67% more that you could be getting.

Good luck with that.  To me the math is easy, I'll pay the $300 for an airplane ride.

[alphacookie]

Don't get caught?!?  It's legal.  You tell the truth.  They ask if you worked in Mass, you say no.  They ask if you live in Mass, you say no.  They ask if you worked in more than one state, you say yes. (Of course, that has to be a true statement).  Then you tell them who you worked for, when you worked for them, and where you worked.  Give them your SSN, then go back home and wait for your checks.

If you don't believe us, or the Mass web site, then call them.  You are getting $10,764 in AR when you should be getting $18,000 in MASS, you loose $7,236.  That's 67% more that you could be getting.

Good luck with that.  To me the math is easy, I'll pay the $300 for an airplane ride.

It is that easy.  I filed in Mass.  Don't forget to bring in your DD214.  As far as it being illegal, Remo's friend is ignorant of the ways of uneployment.   During T.A.P. class, the instructors teach us about unemployment and tell us to file in Mass.

[thenukeman]

I wrote Mass and asked them because I thought this was ridiculous that Mass would pay and that you have never worked there or lived there.  They said it was legal as long as you worked 2 or more states. In fact you have to file a form with your home state. Its all up front. I agree with Mike on the math. You second week you come out ahead, Yourjet fare is then paid for and you get a free visit to boston for Seafood.  But if you insist take the 414.  You can read this whole post, I know I posted their web address, and at least a dozen people posted that they did it. Let alone all the people on the road.  The form you fill out at your home sate is also here somewhere. Ask your own state what that form is for. They will say its for a person filing in another state. My own brother in-law worked for the state of TN in a small town called ERIN and said it can not be done.  I went to Oak Ridge TN and thelady only asked how much does Mass pay now and I told her 625, she laughed and said thats a whole lot better than we do, Just 275 Max, The TN unemployment lady got her other friends to asked me too. They thought it was funny, I just filed theI8I, Ithink thats it. but they will tell you on this thread and Mass. But if you insist on getting 200 dollars less be my guest.

[Melrose]

Eight Weeks for a check?!?!?!?!?
never had to wait more then three, and then three checks would show up.

As for DD, I called in a week after filing.  The following week, two checks showed up on Tues. and the third showed up on Thur.  The following week my check was deposited to my account on Mon. night.  Nice to get the pay in the account 5 days sooner. 

[thenukeman]

Don.t Get caught that is most laughable!!!!!   You file in your homestate in addition to Mass and get paid by Mass. How more up front can you be??? I even give them my home address in TN and Mass mails it to me at my home in TN.  How more upfront is that, Theperson giving you the info is the one who is laughable, Just like my brother in law.  He admitted he was wrong, buthe has had no one come from another state to file in Erin TN.  I guess you could fly to Erin from Boston and tell them I feel bad about getting 625 a week and I will take the 275 TN offers.  This  does not happen, and I bet does not occur in ARK. LOL hey Iwant to fly to Little rock and file, I worked In Mass and ARK.  Can I have the Ark  Unemployment.  LOL  And file my I8I with Mass.  Hilarious.  I was a skeptic too and was way upfront because I did not want to get in trouble.  I have been Nukeworker schooled by this thread and it has been worth more than the 36 a year Gold dues I pay!!!

[Remo]

I tried file on line and it would NOT let me. YOU experts and mind readers figure it out. I was just telling you what i was told, and i will say that was several years ago. Yeah it seems like it should be OK, after all Bartlett is in Mass. . Remo

[vikingfan]

i flew into boston/logan airport. took the silverline to the south train station. cost me $2. went upstairs to street level walked down essex about 2 blocks to south street. go down about 3 blocks to the end of south street and the job net office is on the left side of the street from the train station to 210 south street. interview process took about 15 minutes. and now let the checks roll in

if you didn't work directly in mass you will need to make a yearly appearance. if ya worked in mass hen you can do it online. now if you don't wanna fly to mass and file and miss out on close to $1000 a month then so be it. plus you get 30 weeks of UI from versus 26 from your home state. in my world 2 + 2 = 4. in other words do the math. buy your ticket to boston, go to the office and file, in and out in less then 30 minutes and then go home call your local office tell them you need to have an IB1 sent to mass and let the checks keep a rolling !!! you will recoup the cost of your trip in 2-3 weeks good luck !!

[Smart People]

I have found that you don't need the IB1 when you open the claim, but you need it when you reopen.

this last time, 210.00 flight from Detroit. Well worth the effort for 600.00 a week.

[vikingfan]

 ok a little clarification here. after you have returned from mass following your succesful trip you will need to contact your unemployment office in your home state and have them send a IB1 form to mass. you will also need to do this everytime you have to reopen your current claim.

[BeerCourt]

I have, in the past, forgotten to do the IB1 when opening a new claim once.  I still got the money.  I know a few other people who didn't even know that they were supposed to file one on a new claim.  They got paid too.  But, I still recommend doing it - even though it is a major PITA to try to do it in New York.

[BeerCourt]

I tried file on line and it would NOT let me. YOU experts and mind readers figure it out. I was just telling you what i was told, and i will say that was several years ago. Yeah it seems like it should be OK, after all Bartlett is in Mass. . Remo

If you had been paying attention to the dozens of posts here that are just trying to help you, you would have found out that MA does not allow you to file an interstate claim online.

If you do not live in Massachusetts - whether you worked there or not - you can't file online.  You either have to file an Interstate Claim (which you do at your home state's unemployment office) or you file a combined wage claim (which yo have to do in a Mass. Unemployment office).

Bartlett being in Massachusetts has NOTHING at all to do with where you file your claim.  You could work for a company from Mongolia and file in Mass. as long as they reported your wages to Mass or to any two other states.  Likewise, you could work for Bartlett all year, and NOT be able to file in Mass. because all your wages were reported to one state that is not Massachussets.

Don't insult people who come here to help just because they did their homework and you didn't.

[Rennhack]

If you had been paying attention to the dozens of posts here that are just trying to help you, you would have found out that MA does not allow you to file an interstate claim online.

If you do not live in Massachusetts - whether you worked there or not - you can't file online.  You either have to file an Interstate Claim (which you do at your home state's unemployment office) or you file a combined wage claim (which yo have to do in a Mass. Unemployment office).

Bartlett being in Massachusetts has NOTHING at all to do with where you file your claim.  You could work for a company from Mongolia and file in Mass. as long as they reported your wages to Mass or to any two other states.  Likewise, you could work for Bartlett all year, and NOT be able to file in Mass. because all your wages were reported to one state that is not Massachussets.

Don't insult people who come here to help just because they did their homework and you didn't.

Thanks Troy, I couldn't think of a nice way to say it.

[Marssim]

.................even though it is a major PITA to try to do it in New York.

Amen brother!!!!!

[MR BIG]

I have, in the past, forgotten to do the IB1 when opening a new claim once.  I still got the money.  I know a few other people who didn't even know that they were supposed to file one on a new claim.  They got paid too.  But, I still recommend doing it - even though it is a major PITA to try to do it in New York.

Did you read Smart People's post? He is RIGHT! You DO NOT need the IB1 from your home state to open a NEW claim, but you need it to RE-OPEN the claim. HELLO?

[vikingfan]

  you will need to contact your unemployment office in your home state and have them send a IB1 form to mass. you will also need to do this everytime you have to reopen your current claim.

enough said

[Carolina Jethro]

Did you read Smart People's post? He is RIGHT! You DO NOT need the IB1 from your home state to open a NEW claim, but you need it to RE-OPEN the claim. HELLO?

I was told by Mass to do it both times and I did. I spent more time in the SC office than I did in Mass. I flew round trip from Myrtle Beach and stayed in a suite in the financial district through Expedia for a little over $300. Well worth the trip!

[BeerCourt]

Did you read Smart People's post? He is RIGHT! You DO NOT need the IB1 from your home state to open a NEW claim, but you need it to RE-OPEN the claim. HELLO?

I'll repeat that I have had no problem filing a new claim without filing an IB1 when I got back to NY.

However, I live by the Golden Rule: He who is handing out the GOLD makes the RULES.  MA told me to file an IB1.  They are probably wrong.  But it is simple:  They give me money - I do what they say.  Fair enough?

[Melrose]

As stated earlier, different reps give you different instructions.  I too have received money though I haven't filed an IB1.  That was before I was ever instructed to do so.  Since, I have heard both when filing a new claim or opening an existing one. 
"All it takes is following a few simple rules".... aka... KISS, 'keep it simple stupid',
do what you suppose to do, don't make it harder than it has to be.  Listen to those trying to help you and get your money or keep asking questions and sitting in wonder.  Either way.... we're out fishing and hunting while getting paid.

As for filing on line, no way, unless your situation is as Troy stated. 
Understand the difference, filing a new claim can't be done, re-opening can't either, claiming weekly bennies of course can.  Re-opening online flags the dept. to the date that you first claim, then you'll be prompted to call in, they'll then tell you to contact your home state for the IB1.

Be sure you get online the first day following your layoff date.  If you wait, you'll have to sweet talk the rep into back dating your claim.

[JerryTaylor]

My son and I just returned from Boston last night. We both printed off "Bruce Moffatt post", and filled in our information.  Very helpful!!!We arrived at downtown office, that was clean and empty. We signed in, waited maybe 5 mins. we were called into office, presented our information, typed out. The whole thing took a total of 30 mins. for both of us.
Back to the airport, where we called from the airport pay phones to start claim.
We file our first claim tomorrow on internet. We were both told we only had to file a IB1 form if we needed to restart a claim. Not on new claim. Were told our checks would start arriving in about 3 weeks max., possibly sooner. First check would probably be for at least 2 weeks, with 3rd check arriving shortly there after. The key here is that for a Multi-state claim (Combined Wage Claim) must be done in person. Restarting claim during your calendar claim year can be done over the phone. After exhausting your claim, new claims must be filed in person. Interstate claims can be filed from your home states. The only way you can file an interstate claim is if you worked in Mass. or the company you worked for reported the unemployment to Mass. (Which usually never happens)