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1  Career Path / Navy Nuke / Re: When Did EMs Lose The Ability To "Touch Rods"? on: Nov 26, 2011, 11:53
Dave, he was before my time and served on submarines, which I did not.  The Chief's NEC (as listed on Together We Served) indicates he was a nuclear trained electrician.  How, or even if he was assigned to RC division would only be speculation on my part. 

That said, form my experience in the surface fleet, it seems unlikely that an EMC would be a reactor operator, or for that matter, any chief would be.  On Bainbridge, chiefs in RC division did not qualify as RO's.  They were trained and stood watch as a Watch Supervisor or if you prefer as a Watch Officer in the after engine room. 

How it is done on the boats, I will let another chime in.

The Admiral indicated that Chief Pennington was a Reactor Operator.  It is likely that he normally stood EWS but maintained proficiency on the RPCP - just like all the Chiefs I served with in RC Division on USS Michigan (Blue).
2  Career Path / Navy Nuke / When Did EMs Lose The Ability To "Touch Rods"? on: Nov 04, 2011, 11:47
I was looking at old posts when I saw this one quoted below.  Rather than necroing the thread (after the software warned me), I decided to make a new thread.  So here it goes.

Back in the day (1967-72), RO's were either ET's or IC's (Interior Communications).  These ratings had the training in electronic theory necessary for maintenance of reactor instrumentation.  On Bainbridge, those who where or would become RO's were in Reactor Controls Division, which was responsible for reactor operation and instrumentation maintenance and repair.  ET's first qualified as Reactor Technician, basically on the instrumentation and instrumentation alley watch, the secondary control of the reactor.  Once qualified as an RT, you were assigned to instrumentation maintenance and repair.  RO was the next, and final qualification for an ET.  To get there, you had to qualify on all engine room and control room watch stations.   You had to understand all the electrical distribution and plant cross connections.  You had to understand the interaction of everything in the plant.  Back then, the RO was the second in line watch under the Engineering Watch Officer.

I was looking up a Chief from the USS Thresher after having been told a story by Admiral Cowhill [1] when I saw him at NIH in August on my last day there [2] and when I found EMC/SS Roscoe Pennington, I was surprised to see that he was assigned to RC Division and was the Leading Chief.

http://www.ussthresher.com/roster/penningtonr.htm

When did EMs lose the ability to "touch rods"?  Does anyone know?  Obviously, this was some time before 1967.

[1] Cowhill had been commissioning XO on Thresher.

[2] I was dropped from my study due to the build-up of negative side-effects from the treatment.  I am on a new cancer treatment here in St. Louis and am doing fine.  Admiral Cowhill looked fine (or as fine as a man that old and suffering from cancer can look) then.



3  News and Discussions / Nuke News / Re: Japan's Nukes Following Earthquake on: Apr 01, 2011, 08:48
Concerned about the ocean.  If the contamination gets into the water and goes up the food chain, will this not increase the spread of the radiation, leading to the supposed killing of the ocean?

If this http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/5d/Castle_Bravo_Blast.jpg didn't kill the ocean, what is happening in Japan won't either.
4  News and Discussions / Nuke News / Re: Japan's Nukes Following Earthquake on: Mar 30, 2011, 09:18
What you must understand is the very powerful nature of the Utilities in Japan. It's essentially a quasi-mafia thing. This is because of the strange divide between the 50Hz Western Japanese Grid, and the 60 Hz Eastern Japanese Grid.
I know this is but a nit, but I believe you have that backwards.

http://m.npr.org/news/Business/134828205?page=3

""One major problem is that the east and west of Japan have different electric cycles and the capacity of the connectors are very much limited," he says.

That's partly an accident of history. Eastern Japan followed the German model and has a 50-cycle electrical power grid. The western part of Japan used the American model and has a 60-cycle grid. Transferring power from one grid to another requires a very expensive facility. And there are only three connections between eastern and western Japan. That bottleneck means the power transfer is just a trickle, even during this national emergency. Creating more capacity would take years."
5  News and Discussions / Nuke News / Re: Japan's Nukes Following Earthquake on: Mar 17, 2011, 10:48
The BBC is reporting that TEPCO has gotten a power line onto the site.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-pacific-12779512
6  News and Discussions / Nuke News / Re: Japan's Nukes Following Earthquake on: Mar 15, 2011, 03:20
So...

Basically, these brave people were screwed as soon as the EDGs essentially disappeared and they are now trying to fix the unfixable.
7  Career Path / Navy Nuke / Re: Rate your fleet Experience! on: Feb 25, 2011, 09:36
Since I'm assuming Warmonger711 was refering to the SSGN 587 and not the OHIO Class SSGNs, I do too! Grin

Did HALIBUT ever pull into Diego Garcia?
8  Career Path / Navy Nuke / Re: Rate your fleet Experience! on: Feb 22, 2011, 01:22
The joys of life on SSGN can summerized in the following:
2. oldest boat in the fleet: it's ancient, more shit gets held together with baling wire and duct tape.

Oh dear God I feel old.  I remember when those boats were brand spanking new.

Dave <---- first RC Divver to report to USS Michigan Blue after commissioning.
9  Career Path / Navy Nuke / Re: Admiral Cowhill Sighting on: Jan 21, 2011, 03:50
We should offer up a prayer for you also.

I didn't want to presume, but thanks.

I have what are called neuroendocrine tumors.  This is the same thing that Steve Jobs of Apple has.  Mine started on the "tail" end of the pancreas.  His started on the "head" end.  Mine had already spread to the liver when discovered.  His apparently spread later (he's had a liver transplant).  I'm doing okay for someone who is three and a half years past diagnosis, but prayers are always appreciated.
10  Career Path / Navy Nuke / Admiral Cowhill Sighting on: Jan 21, 2011, 12:52
I got back Wednesday from Washington DC where I am undergoing treatment for cancer at NIH in Bethesda.  Several of the other patients know that I'm an ex-Navy Nuc and they told me there was someone I had to meet on Tuesday.  This turned out to be Admiral W. J. "Bill" Cowhill, who was ComSubPac between July 1977 and May 1979 (which is before my time in service).  I was only able to speak to the Admiral for a couple of minutes as the cancer treatment wing was crowded because all the Monday and Tuesday treatment appointments were being done on Tuesday because of the Federal Holiday on Monday (I'm told they ran a record number of patients through on Tuesday) and my treatment was finished in that couple of minutes (so I got unhooked so the next person could get their treatment).  Admiral Cowhill apparently had a long history of working with Admiral Rickover going back to at least the 1950s when he was a Lieutenant.

Treatments at NIH are experimental in nature, so if you knew Admiral Cowhill or served under him, you might offer up a prayer for him.
11  Career Path / Navy:Staying In / Re: EM(SS) qualifying Reactor Operator, is it possible? on: Dec 26, 2010, 04:58
It'll all be good as long as we don't cross the streams...
12  Career Path / Navy:Staying In / Re: EM(SS) qualifying Reactor Operator, is it possible? on: Dec 25, 2010, 07:10
You're posting to an audience of active, inactive, retired, etc Nukes that may have done more than "6 and out" as you have.

You keep assuming things not in evidence.  Have I indicated how long I was in?  It wasn't "6 and out."

Anyhow, just got back from a friend's Christmas party.  Time for bed.
13  Career Path / Navy:Staying In / Re: EM(SS) qualifying Reactor Operator, is it possible? on: Dec 25, 2010, 10:58
I would have liked to of qualified a couple of the forward watches but we were so short handed it was not permitted. I did spend a little time in sonar (a much different beast in the 70s).

Manning (and qualification) levels were quite nice on Tridents just out of new construction.

Weren't you worried about turning into a "stonar girl"? Grin
14  Career Path / Navy:Staying In / Re: EM(SS) qualifying Reactor Operator, is it possible? on: Dec 25, 2010, 10:54
Sorry you think someone wants to piss in your wheaties, I've read though my post a dozen times and all I'm seeing is that I'm impressed someone took the time to list and squeeze all your junior watch stations into your DD-214.

1) I don't eat Wheaties. Wink

2) I haven't looked at my DD-214 in years.

3) Did you read the post (by Co60slr) that I was responding to?  You know, where he asks "So, does your DD-214 (i.e., the master document of all things veteran official) list you as qualifying "Reactor Operator"?  We're not talking "Shutdown RO" where yes, EMs can qualify....we're talking about "RO".  If so, than congrats...you, Dave have literally pulled a rabbit out of your hat."  Did you read that?  Because that is what I was responding to not having looked at my DD-214 in years.  He assumes that I am the person being talked about when it should be clear to even the most casual of observers that I'm talking about someone else on my boat.  The notation that I stood RO on a submarine should have clued him in that I was an ET, but did not.  So, when he posted the above quoted bit, I threw it back in his face - including a listing of everything I'd qualified on board (and I qualified all those except EO and SRO at S8G in New York prior to getting to USS Michigan).

Anyway... Merry Christmas to you as well.
15  Career Path / Navy:Staying In / Re: EM(SS) qualifying Reactor Operator, is it possible? on: Dec 25, 2010, 10:35
Sorry, I thought you meant EDPO/EWS. CoW did not make any sense in context with the thread.

Nah... He was qualified EWS/EDPO.  The next logical watch on ship for him to qualify would be CoW at the BCP (which he'd never stand).  Instead, he went for an aft watch station that he wasn't allowed to stand - RO.
16  Career Path / Navy:Staying In / Re: EM(SS) qualifying Reactor Operator, is it possible? on: Dec 25, 2010, 09:51
EWS was Chief of the Watch on my boat and the only difference between the EWS and EOOW card was couple of drills in manuvering. Sorry I didn't know you were talking about a "Target". Never mind.  Coffee

Huh?

On my submarine, the Chief of the Watch manned the Ballast Control Panel under the supervision of the Diving Officer while the EWS was the roving Engineering Spaces Supervisor (who could, and did, switch off with the EOOW in the box) - not to be confused with the Engine Room Supervisor.
17  Career Path / Navy:Staying In / Re: EM(SS) qualifying Reactor Operator, is it possible? on: Dec 25, 2010, 09:46
Man that's impressive,...

I think mine just listed my primary and one secondary NEC, I had others but the Navy limited it to two on the coversheet (DD-214). The other stuff was buried back in the service jacket.

Excuse me?!?  I only listed 2 NECs - 3363 (primary) and 3373 (secondary).

I don't really want to get into a pissing contest, but could you actually read what I write instead of substituting your own reality in there?  

As for the list of watches qualified, that is just a standard list of watches that an ET Nuke on a Trident would qualify.  There's nothing unusual or impressive about it at all.  In fact, it is kind of embarrassing (no EWS).
18  Career Path / Navy:Staying In / Re: EM(SS) qualifying Reactor Operator, is it possible? on: Dec 25, 2010, 09:28
Though why not just qualify EWS you will have to stand watches on all of the control panels to qualify and will supervise the ROs while they do much of their testing (I hated hot rod functionals being three section EWS and the only first class EWS on my boat I usually got them).

As I said before, he was already qualified EWS.  Chief of the Watch would probably have been more practical, but he chose RO.  He transferred to TTF right after that anyway (and came back just before I finally left in 88).
19  Career Path / Navy:Staying In / Re: EM(SS) qualifying Reactor Operator, is it possible? on: Dec 25, 2010, 09:22
However, I'll grant you that I have not read versions of all the Regs dating back to circa 1983.   So, does your DD-214 (i.e., the master document of all things veteran official) list you as qualifying "Reactor Operator"?  We're not talking "Shutdown RO" where yes, EMs can qualify....we're talking about "RO".  If so, than congrats...you, Dave have literally pulled a rabbit out of your hat.

I'm not the EM who qualified RO.  I'm an ET who was on-board when he did.

So, yeah... my DD-214 has me qualified RadWorker, RC Entry Watch, RT, AEA, SEO, TH, RO, EO and SRO (and maybe some more I've forgotten after 22 years).
20  Career Path / Navy:Staying In / Re: EM(SS) qualifying Reactor Operator, is it possible? on: Dec 25, 2010, 09:16
No doubt.   Your "Dad" let you "drive without a license".   By the letter of the law, you were not "qualified" unless you also carried the ET NEC. 

I did have the ET NEC.  I got out with a 3363 and 3373. You assumed something not in evidence.
21  Career Path / Navy:Staying In / Re: EM(SS) qualifying Reactor Operator, is it possible? on: Dec 23, 2010, 05:25
If your CO let you "qualify", perhaps he also ended up in the Navy Times for other reasons.

The CO got a promotion... CSG9/CSS17.
22  Career Path / Navy:Staying In / Re: EM(SS) qualifying Reactor Operator, is it possible? on: Dec 23, 2010, 05:23
"Qualifying" and "Going through the motions" isn't the same.  Wink   If you can't stand the watch, you're not qualified.

Well, I stood the watch. Wink
23  Career Path / Navy:Staying In / Re: EM(SS) qualifying Reactor Operator, is it possible? on: Dec 23, 2010, 05:21
I apologize for being crass, but he could also stop wasting his time and qualify watch supervisor?

The EM on USS Michigan was already qualified EWS.  I guess he could have gone for Chief Of The Watch instead...
24  Career Path / Navy:Staying In / Re: EM(SS) qualifying Reactor Operator, is it possible? on: Dec 22, 2010, 02:59
Yes, yes... I know I'm VERY late to this game.  But I have germane information.

We had an EM1/SS qualify RO on USS Michigan SSBN-727 (Blue) in the Eighties.  He was told that he would not be able to stand said watch, but that he could go through the qualification process.
25  Career Path / Navy Nuke / Re: Smoking Lamp is OFF (maybe) on: Apr 12, 2010, 05:13
The proposed ban is based off medical evidence of the very much increased levels of second hand exposure due to the fact that the atmosphere is recycled.

Its not likely to be overturned if it actually goes into effect.

As opposed to the deleterious effects of the lube oil, diesel and MEA mist in a submarine's atmosphere?
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