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Offline GLW

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Re: More Cheating on Exams
« Reply #50 on: Aug 29, 2014, 10:39 »
When the plants ran with 250 staff, they didn't run. Capacity factors averaged 60%. The problem is the pendulum has swung too far in the wrong direction, and you can blame INPO. Most of the extra 350 staff today do nothing but INPO required paperwork.

I'll concede that, but let's not get folks started on INPO,...

The viability problem behind your stats is that although increased capacity can offset increased staff that offset does not help add profit dollars to the bottom line in a now unregulated industry which is not expected to financially perform as a "widows & orphans" stock,...

which was the expectation in the regulated days of lower capacity and lower staffing,...

plus long term liability costs are increasing,...

and we are again drifting off-topic,...

BZ's general observation on Internet forums/threads etal, By the 5th post in any thread it starts drifting off topic. By 12 to 15 it has nothing to do with the original topic and if it surives to 30 or so it magically gets back on topic. This applies almost everywhere.

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« Last Edit: Aug 29, 2014, 02:21 by GLW »

been there, dun that,... the doormat to hell does not read "welcome", the doormat to hell reads "it's just business"

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Re: More Cheating on Exams
« Reply #51 on: Aug 29, 2014, 10:05 »
Cheating is cheating, the excuses abound, still excuses.  This level of thought is why this country is in the state that it is in, politically.  The Navy and its Management, all the way to the top, should be ashamed at what has happened.  No excuses, no absolution, no forgiveness, it is wrong.  Don't bring your mentality to our commercial nuclear business.  Honesty and integrity is our expectation in commercial nuclear power.  I have been doing this too long to continue to see the poor quality being demonstrated and it is gradually working it way into the management philosphy of the commercial business.  It is time to stop, reinstate honesty and integrity and allow our business to grow and be what it was intended to be, Safe, Secure, and Caring, not only about ourselves but the customers we provide our expertise too.
No one is saying that cheating is okay, nor is anyone making excuses. If you don't understand the root of the problem, you can't fix it.

I suppose step one would be for the nuclear Navy writ large to admit it has a problem. Not with every boat or command, but certainly with more than one command. Everytime a story like this comes out, everyone of importance swears up and down that it's an isolated incident and that these Sailors were just terrible people who decided to cheat on their own volition. Until it hits the press again a few years later. See USS Memphis circa 2010.

I also agree with the poster who griped about the way that tests are written and keyed. Let's face it - the Eng and EDMC weren't hired because of their ability to produce quality test questions, nor was the EDTA. Thoughtfully written multiple choice questions would go a long way in reducing the amount of subjectivity involved in grading exams and the perception that they are 'bs' among Sailors.
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