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Nuke Qualifying Test
« on: Nov 05, 2005, 01:41 »
Hi, I'm looking to find out if you have to take any kind of other test besides the asvab to qualify for the nuke program. I saw somewhere in this forum that you have to take a nuke qualfying test after the asvab. Is this true? I took a practice asvab at a recruiter's office and scored an 81 without studying. He told that I would get into the nuke program without a problem. But he never mentioned anything about any nuke qualifying test though. Is this something I have to worry about?
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Re: Nuke Qualifying Test
« Reply #1 on: Nov 06, 2005, 02:18 »
Yes there is a nuke qualifying test if you do not score high enough on the ASVAB.  I don't know what the cutoff is for it though or what is on it, since I didn't have to take it.

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« Reply #2 on: Nov 06, 2005, 02:22 »
I took the nuclear exam 15 years ago, but I remember it consisted mostly of math, physics, and chemistry.

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« Reply #3 on: Nov 06, 2005, 04:33 »
Ask your recruiter about the NFQT, Nuclear Field Qualifying Test. I took it 12 years ago. The minimum score constantly changes based on the needs of the Navy. It used to be a multiple choice test. Mostly basic Physics, math, and chemistry. Just because you score an 81 on the ASVAB doesn't guarantee you the Nuc Program. However, that's not to say a recruiter will grade your NFQT to help out his/her quotas. Bottom line is it's a much easier test now than 10-15 years ago. The Navy is having retention problems in the Nuclear field. Many people will speculate as to why. Not my field of expertise. Best of luck.

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« Reply #4 on: Nov 09, 2005, 04:35 »
Yeah... there is a qualifying test... I thought everyone had to take that test though, even though they had high ASVAB score... I took the test a couple of weeks ago. Don't worry about the test... if you got 81 without studying for the ASVAB then you can easily pass the test. I got 82 on the ASVAB and didn't study either.

 I thought the test was going to be hard but it turned out to be really easy. Some of thier notations can be very difficult to understand though... Just algebra, geometry, chemistry and physics. I found that the algebra geometry and chemistry to be real easy, but I never took physics and just guessed on those questions and still passed.

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« Reply #5 on: Nov 09, 2005, 05:41 »
Yes, there is a secondary qualification test, called the Navy Advanced Placement Test (NAPT), once known as the Nuclear Field Qualification Test (NFQT).  The minimum requiring score is based on how you did on the ASVAB itself.  When you take the ASVAB, it is comprised of 10 sections, 6 of which are used for creating your Nuclear Field qualifying score (and there are two different sets of 6 sections even).  If you score over a certain benchmark then you will not need to take the NAPT.  If you're under that requirement, but over the minimum requirement to take the NAPT then they'll have you take it and your minimum qualifying score will be determined by how far below you are.  If you're below the miminum requirement to take the NAPT then they will not even offer the program to you at all.

As a rule of thumb I'd say that an ASVAB score of < 70 (not likely qualified), 70-85 (you'll need to take the NAPT), 85+ (probably won't need it).  That is only a rough estimate though as your ASVAB score only accounts for 4 of the 10 sections (2 math & 2 english).  I've seen an 88 who needed the test and a 71 who didn't.  With a 81 on the EST (practice test) I wouldn't worry.  Many of us who joined several years ago were required the take the test regardless of what we scored on the ASVAB and it isn't too difficult.

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« Reply #6 on: Dec 31, 2005, 04:57 »
I had a 91 ASVAB and had to take the NAPT. I only had to have like a 50 on it though. also the cutoff to take the NAPT test was 82 when i took it. below an 82 asvab and you werent qualified for the test. and i dont know of anyone who didnt have to take it. im in DEP with a couple of other nukes at the moment.

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« Reply #7 on: Jan 10, 2006, 12:37 »
I am currently in DEP and my job is an ET in the SECF program. I made a 73 on the ASVAB test and I want to change my job to Nuke. They said that I have to take the Nuke test. I am a very ambitious person and is always looking for a challenge, and I dont think being an ET on a sub will give me so much of a challenge. Should I go and take this test? Cuz im not sure what to study. I've been brushing up on Math and Physics. I have to get 63 out of 80 questions to pass the test. Is this a good idea for me to do? Please respond.

Thankyou!!

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Re: Question about Nuke Test
« Reply #8 on: Jan 10, 2006, 01:15 »
probably already been asked and answered in a previous post. Can you clarify your question?

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« Reply #9 on: Jan 10, 2006, 01:21 »
I want to switch my job and go into nuke. I have to take the test but im not sure if I will do good on it. I took Chemistry, Physics, and PreAlgebra in high school. Im wondering if it is a good idea to take the test?

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Re: Question about Nuke Test
« Reply #10 on: Jan 10, 2006, 01:35 »
Evo,

You're gonna fail! Don't take it.  All of us Navy Nukes on this forum knew we were going to pass before we took it.  Just be an ET... that's what you're destined for.

OK... Enough kidding around.  Nobody knows how you'll do on the test.  Take the test and be an ET if you score less than 63 or be a nuke if you score greater than a 63.  You stand little to lose.  Also,  you won't really lose out on your ET opportunities because if you fail out of nuke school they might make you an ET anyway.

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Re: Question about Nuke Test
« Reply #11 on: Jan 10, 2006, 01:39 »
Evo,

I'm sorry.  You're question struck a nerve.  I've been out of the navy for a while but you're question reminded me of the types of questions forward pukes used to ask.

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Re: Question about Nuke Test
« Reply #12 on: Jan 10, 2006, 03:42 »
I dont think being an ET on a sub will give me so much of a challenge....


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« Reply #13 on: Jan 10, 2006, 05:06 »
thats a good idea. I should try that. Im like cramming on Physics stuff. Cuz its been a while since I took it. I think im going to take the exam. Like he said, theres not much to lose.

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« Reply #14 on: Jan 10, 2006, 05:56 »
I have been in the navy 3 yrs and i got a 95 on my asvab when i took it with out studying. But the scores are based of what you get on the other sections. Some people that were in my a school class took the NFQT some people didnt it all depends on your scores. I still had too take the NFQT or what ever its called.

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« Reply #15 on: Jan 10, 2006, 06:01 »
Nuke program is not for everyone and pluss you wont know if you get ET, EM, MM till the end of boot camp and at that point they wont change you. If you have someting specific you want to do in the navy stick with that if you want to get a hard school with long hours go for the nuke program. If you want to do something a little bit easier stick with the conner job. And subs arnt going to be promised to you. You put in a sub vol but you might get sent to an air craft carrier.

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« Reply #16 on: Jan 10, 2006, 06:35 »
I dont think being an ET on a sub will give me so much of a challenge....


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Wow, my thoughts exactly.

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Re: Nuke Qualifying Test
« Reply #17 on: Feb 11, 2006, 07:36 »
evo,

i had to take the napt and it wasnt dificult at all. I was prepared for trig identities and electron orbital notations and that kinda stuff, and i received a blessing. A very simple test to me that consisted of questions like algebra 1 and 2 little geometry. the chem questions were like what does Na+ rep on the periodic table... just simple stuff. of course there were difficult questions but overall not bad. if u need any help preparing let me kno and ill give u all the advice i can, seeing that i just took it a few months ago.

Best of luck

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« Reply #18 on: Feb 12, 2006, 11:26 »
Yep - basic physics, chemistry, and algebra; maybe some geometry. I myself was not worried when I took the test because I only needed a 50 to pass, but to get a 63 will be difficult to achieve so you better study your ass off before you take that test.

Good luck, hope you make it

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« Reply #19 on: Feb 12, 2006, 06:49 »
yes a 50 is a pass. and at after 3 months of no school, i got a 60 with ease.. but ive seen alot of my intelligent friends not do so well...but best of luck and keep us all updated on your experience.

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Re: Nuke Qualifying Test
« Reply #20 on: Feb 13, 2006, 02:30 »
evo,

i had to take the napt and it wasnt dificult at all. I was prepared for trig identities and electron orbital notations and that kinda stuff, and i received a blessing. A very simple test to me that consisted of questions like algebra 1 and 2 little geometry. the chem questions were like what does Na+ rep on the periodic table... just simple stuff. of course there were difficult questions but overall not bad. if u need any help preparing let me kno and ill give u all the advice i can, seeing that i just took it a few months ago.

Best of luck

Not to be considered a hard core or anything. You better learn to spell  and punctuate better if you want to have any success in the Navy Nuke Program. Don't say well this is just a message board. If you want to be even a passable nuke you take pride in all your work.


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« Reply #21 on: Feb 13, 2006, 06:04 »
I understand what you are saying, but I already can perfectly spell and punctuate. Sometimes it's just quicker for myself to type like I do, quick and improper.

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« Reply #22 on: Feb 13, 2006, 06:42 »
I understand what you are saying, but I already can perfectly spell and punctuate. Sometimes it's just quicker for myself to type like I do, quick and improper.

Which is anti ethical to being a nuke.

Try doing it correctly, all the time, everytime, no matter how long it takes. That is what being a nuke is all about.

It's the same as saying, Well I know how to do a job correectly but it's quicker for myself to do it this way.

Then you end up either getting a ship mate killed, or getting everyone extra duty because quick and incorrect worked for you. That's not the way the nuclear world works so as a suggestion I'd recommend doing it correctly starting now.

One day you may end up trying to get a job with some of the people who post on this board, or you may end up working for one of the chiefs who visit here, do you really want to make the impression on them that you've made on me?

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« Reply #23 on: Feb 13, 2006, 09:14 »
True. I guess it's my first lesson learned. I appreciate what I am being told, and I will try my fullest to listen to everyword of advice you have given me. Thank you for the example, I now have a better understanding of what you are trying to say. 

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« Reply #24 on: Feb 13, 2006, 09:41 »

One day you may end up trying to get a job with some of the people who post on this board, or you may end up working for one of the chiefs who visit here, do you really want to make the impression on them that you've made on me?

Mike

You've made quite an impression on me, Mike.

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« Reply #25 on: Feb 17, 2006, 09:52 »

Well, after reading all of your comments and suggestions about the test and what to expect, I feel a little more at ease.  I myself am taking the test a little later today.  So I know I should probably be in bed getting a full night's rest, but I figured I'd do a little last-minute research.   :P  My thoughts on what to expect... ???   I'm still dumbfounded, however, I scored an 83 on the ASVAB without really studying, and I believe I only missed not having to take the nuke test by about 7 points.  The only thing that really freaks me out is the physics part.  I took AP physics in High School and did horribly.  No matter how much I paid attention and took notes, I just didn't get it.  However I was at the top of my class as far as math and chemistry were concerned.  But I don't  know, I guess we shall see.  All I know is that I'd really like to have job as a nuke, because when I was in college, my major was biochemistry, so I figure going nuke would be the closest thing to that.  Not only that, but as a civilian after I finish my time in the Navy, I'm sure I could really start making some big bucks.  All in all, I guess I'm just going to go in and do my best, so wish me luck everyone, I know I'll need it.  I'll let you all know how I did when I get my results.   ;D
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Re: Nuke Qualifying Test
« Reply #26 on: Feb 18, 2006, 04:22 »
Wells Sir, Best of luck to you on the NAPT. Please keep us updated.

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« Reply #27 on: Feb 22, 2006, 02:17 »
I, too, discovered nuke worker while doing late night research about what to expect on my nuke exam the night before the test ;).  All in all I was quite happy to have found this site, as its been very informative.  Anyhow, I took the test last thursday the 16th, and despite my fears I actually did quite well(75/80) and am now just awaiting my new contract so I can change to nuke (currently I'm AECF).  Pretty much what everyone has been saying, Algebra 1 and 2, a bit of geometry, and some really basic chem.  While definately brush up on some work, I wouldn't stress too much on the physics, as there wasn't really to much on the test.

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« Reply #28 on: Feb 22, 2006, 10:22 »
Well despite all of my fears, I passed the test...I got a 66/80.  I know it's probably not that good, but for me it was awesome being as how I only needed a 53 to pass.  So thanks to everyone who was able to help me out a little bit and let me know what to expect.  Now I'm just awaiting my waivers to go through, and then I can start working on my new contract.  So wish me luck everyone, and I'll keep all of you updated.
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« Reply #29 on: Feb 22, 2006, 12:19 »
I scored a 52 nine years ago...

good enough is good enough 8)

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Re: Nuke Qualifying Test
« Reply #30 on: Feb 22, 2006, 03:01 »
Congrats to all..


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« Reply #31 on: Feb 22, 2006, 03:45 »
Congrats...Hopefully I work by all your sides soon. I'm glad that I could be of some help anywhere near the moderators and members of this forum.

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« Reply #32 on: Feb 22, 2006, 04:47 »
I passed the test...I got a 66/80.  I know it's probably not that good, but for me it was awesome being as how I only needed a 53 to pass.

Actually, thats really good.  The current average is only 59.  And congrats on passing, maybe I'll see you around... I'm also waiting for a few waivers, but I should find out my ship date some time this week.

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« Reply #33 on: Apr 30, 2006, 06:18 »
Hello everyone, i'm currently an AT with VFA-146. I am being told I have to cross rate because a I can not be flight deck qualified. I missed not having to take the NAPT by 14 points in the line score sections. Just wondering if I take the NAPT and do not get a 50, does anyone know if  I am allowed to retake the ASVAB to get the score I need? I heard you can only take the NAPT one time where as the ASVAB you can take several. I am asking because my NC1 is trying to find out what all I should study and when I should take the exam. Since I am the first time her or anyone in this command to want to cross over to nuke i thought i'd look on line and see what i could find out about the whole exam and this site has helped lower my stress level. i am not sure if i should hold off longer and study more or if i should go take it and then go from there but i dont want to bomb the test if i only have one shot.

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Re: Nuke Qualifying Test
« Reply #34 on: Apr 30, 2006, 02:17 »
From my understanding you MUST score a 50 to qualify for the program anyways. This is because 50 is a passing score...but I'm not 100 percent on this but from my knowledge u need to score at least a 50.

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« Reply #35 on: Jul 05, 2006, 01:37 »
Hello, had a question.  I scored a 90 on ASVAB, but I did not score high enough on the part needed to get into Nuke.  I enlisted, knowing that I have the NAPT to take, and if I score at least a 50, then my contract will be changed.  My question is this, if I do not do well enough on the NAPT, can it be taken again?

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« Reply #36 on: Jul 05, 2006, 04:32 »
I believe you are only allowed to take it once.  However, that was the policy when I joined the Navy, it may have changed.  I would contact your recruiter and ask.

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« Reply #37 on: Jul 06, 2006, 03:32 »
You went ahead and enlisted without a nuke contract on the hopes you might maybe just possibly be able to take the nuke test?  :o :o :o :o

Say it aint so...


So what job did you end up taking?

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Re: NAPT
« Reply #38 on: Jul 09, 2006, 02:19 »
If your goal is to get into the nuclear field, enlisting for anything except nuke is not your best bet.  There are ways into the nuclear field outside of the navy; they do not hold the exclusive on nuclear training.
If you want to serve your country and nuclear seems the best option, go for it understanding that you may end up on a different path.  I have met many nuke drop outs and they were all very happy in their new fields (many glad they did not make it through).  Routes exist to nuclear trades outside of the nuke pipeline: nuclear detectors and instruments are calibrated and maintained by non-nuclear ETs (with specific schooling), I have worked with many non-nuclear rates (MM, HT, EM, ET, and probably more) in nuclear repair billets.
It is up to you to decide what it is that you really want and go for that.  Your post does not clarify this enough for specific advice.  If you want Navy Nuke, do not enlist except for nuclear (raise your hand and go to boot camp; I assume that you have not done this since you are talking about a contract change rather than a conversion).
I can not say whether the test can be given more than once, no idea (maybe at a different MEPS or after an amount of time), but if you do not pass on your first attempt make the best of your remaining alternatives.

Good Luck,

Lance

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« Reply #39 on: Jul 11, 2006, 10:14 »
As a current Nuke Field Coordinator, I can tell you the following about the NAPT

If you get your 50, great.
If you get less than 40, you can never take it again
If you get between 40 and 50 you are eligible with the conditions:
   a.  90 days must elapse between first and second test.
   b.  You must take some kind of math course (high school, college, or online "upgrade" before retaking test.
   c.  You will take the opposite form of the first form taken (duh)
   d. Your new minimum score will be a 55, and you will require a type I waiver for entry.

As a nuke who wants to see you succeed, I can tell you the following:
   A. Don't sweat it.  With a 90 QT, you will have no problems getting your 50.
   B.  Ask questions during the test.  Questions are good   ;D
   C.  Tell the guy or girl giving you the test they remind you of your favorite uncle or aunt.  Please try to keep the gender consistent. 
   D.  If you follow advice C, you may not pass the test.  :P

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« Reply #40 on: Jul 11, 2006, 01:35 »
Sure is good to have a real live recruiter here to help out with these questions....welcome. :)

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« Reply #41 on: Jul 11, 2006, 02:34 »
   C.  Tell the guy or girl giving you the test they remind you of your favorite uncle or aunt.  Please try to keep the gender consistent. 

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« Reply #42 on: Aug 06, 2006, 10:46 »
I recently graduated from college with a double major in history and political science. I've had three semesters of college calculus. But that was several years ago, and I've forgotten much of the math I learned.

I'm told that since I'm 25, I need an age waiver to go nuke. Thus, despite the fact that I scored a 99% on the ASVAB, they want me to take the nuke test.

Can anyone give me an idea of what's on it? I've been told that it has algebra, trig, and maybe a little calculus. But that's all I know. Thus, I have only the vaguest idea of which concepts to review in studying for this test.

Does anyone know exactly which concepts the test covers?

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« Reply #43 on: Aug 06, 2006, 11:27 »
Can anyone give me an idea of what's on it? I've been told that it has algebra, trig, and maybe a little calculus. But that's all I know. Thus, I have only the vaguest idea of which concepts to review in studying for this test.

Does anyone know exactly which concepts the test covers?

Although I took it early in the 90's when I was still in High School.  You have covered most of the math, I seem to remember some Geometery questions also.  The exam will also have some physics and chemisty questions also.  I think there was 80 questions and you will have 2 hours to complete it all.  I believe I was done in just about an hour.

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Re: What's on the Nuke Test?
« Reply #44 on: Aug 06, 2006, 07:09 »
this question has been answered many many times on this fourm.

you are about to get a bunch of posts telling you that you should be an officer. why did you choose not to go that route? you should.

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Re: What's on the Nuke Test?
« Reply #45 on: Aug 06, 2006, 07:24 »
Funny that people think a degree is auto entry to officer ranks.  I was enlisted recruiter for 4+ years and put in many college grads as enlisteds!  Look at the major, navy does not need many history major, the Ocat (thier version of asvab) is heavily slanted to math and science and they really want technical degrees.  That said many of the people I put in with degrees were picked up at first chance for officer accesion programs.  Believe it or not making it through boot camp carries wait (as well as doing a year or so enlisted to prove your worth and ability to conform to the Navy way).

Do not get me wrong!! If you have degree and qualify(pass OCAT and get accepted) go officer.  If you do not make cut then enlisted is a good way to go (I do not know if Nuke is good if you do not have an inate like of science and math) then put in for Officer once you are in.  Plain and simple being a SWO is better money and probably open more future carrer doors than being NUke enlisted (unless you know you want to do civilian Nuke after NAvy).

If you have question feel free to PM me and I will try to answer. (O yes the test pretty much has what Shayne said (except I remeber only precalc no calc, and some basic chem/physics , if you are concerned check out a CHEM and PHYSICS CLEP book from library and give them a review, but do not bust your button it cause it is fairly basic)

I quess I shoudl qualify by saying I was recruiter (District Nuke recruiter of the year) from 1992-1997.

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Re: What's on the Nuke Test?
« Reply #46 on: Aug 08, 2006, 02:48 »
well said Rob 8)

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Re: What's on the Nuke Test?
« Reply #47 on: Aug 08, 2006, 07:17 »
Yes, this question has been answered. I was hoping for some more detail inasmuch as "trigonometry" or "chemistry" are rather broad headings on which I can't just review and refresh my memory over a couple of days or weeks. But no worries. I've found what I needed.

As for the officer questions, yes, I explored that route. I spoke with an officer recruiter who told me, in not so many words, to take a hike. I have a speech impediment. They don't want me.

I was angry at first, but have since reconciled myself to the possibility of an enlisted career.


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« Reply #48 on: Aug 09, 2006, 02:20 »
Sorry the answer was nor specific enough, I guess we just take the titles for granted.  Just remeber it is based on High school students qualifying so basic chem 1 and physics I should be goods enough.

On the offcier front, just remember that once you are the whole game changes.  If your CO (chain of command) endorses you the Navy will place huge stock in that.  I was also trying to get across that if you are not a guy who "likes" math and science then maybe there would be a better way to go.  You can get a commission from any job in the Navy.  If you want to be a Nuc then by all mean come join the team, but if you are not sure then look around there are lots of great job that will give you just as good if not better chance to get commissioned. (I have taled about this in another recent thread).

It may be a little bais on my part but give your majors I would tend to think that spending almost two more years in a technical training (lots of math and science, as well as hands on) may not be for you.  I am only trying to help here but if you like this stuff and had the money toi spend 4 four years in college then why did you end up with a history/pol sci degree?  Was your Calc applied cals or eng/sci degree calc?  How did you do in it? What about Chem, physics, computer, Eng classes all these would help as a Nuc.  I am bring all this up cause if you are going to make a career (and I have for 23 yrs) of the Navy make sure you get in the right field from the get go.  Recruiters do not always know what is best for, and neither do I, but I am not getting extra points for steering you into Nuke program, they are.
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« Reply #49 on: Aug 09, 2006, 10:44 »
"It may be a little bais on my part but give your majors I would tend to think that spending almost two more years in a technical training (lots of math and science, as well as hands on) may not be for you."

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That objection has been put to me before. My lengthy answer follows.

In high school, my math aptitude was stronger than others. I considered myself a math person. I even won a couple of math awards.

But I suddenly developed other talents. My reluctance to socialize -- often due to my speech impediment -- led to a degree of social isolation, which in turn compelled me to develop my written communication skills at a much higher rate. I wouldn't chat with others on the phone, but I would sure write lengthy e-mails. My teachers loved my papers.

My talent for written communication developed rapidly. As a college student, I amused myself by writing deliberately inflammatory op-eds for the student paper (usually in defense of the Iraq war). They were so good that a graduate journalism professor tried to recruit me into his program.

As my high school years closed out, I also developed an insatiable interest in history and politics. Though I began college with a major tailored to my (high school) strengths -- engineering -- this made less and less sense to me with each passing day as my talent for writing steadily became more apparent and as I often neglected my assigned calculus homework to read, for instance, unassigned biographies about Hitler.

Hence, the choice of majors.

I was not a great engineering student, but hardly a bad one. A mediocre one, perhaps. I tested out of trig and Calc. I, made "B's" in Calc. II and a few of the standard 3-credit engineering courses, "C's" in chemistry and calc-based physics.

Thus, while the liberal arts majors I selected made a great deal of sense for me at the time, I'm quite ready to transition back to the technical fields now. My appetite for history and politics is not what it was, and to a large degree, I really feel as though I've studied all that I wanted to study. I'm still a hell of a writer. It's a nice talent to have. I imagine it'll come in useful from time to time, but no need to make a career out of it.

I no longer set my goals to the end of excelling academically and studying things that interest me. I'm more concerned about getting a good job now. I looked into what the job market has for holders of liberal arts degrees. There's not much (or at least not much that looks very exciting to me). I think it a mistake to decide my future based solely on my strengths as a writer as though all fields were equal. They are not. And those with technical backgrounds, in my judgment, seem to have a leg up on everyone else. 

Thus, I am quite content to choose a rating that has little to do with all that I've studied the previous four years. I am not quite a stranger to the pursuits of the math and science student. I have been one before. I can be one again. And perhaps in my off-duty time, I'll get back to work on that engineering degree.

I've made plenty of mistakes before. I may read this post again in six years and wonder what I was smoking. But for now, I'm willing to bet six years of my life that I won't.

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« Reply #50 on: Aug 09, 2006, 01:21 »
Sounds to me like you wont have to look back with regret!  Keep the focus you have now and you will do fine.  The best Zen like advice I can give is to remember you are in controlof your thoughts and emotions.  Others may trigger them, push the button, or use what ever colloquiums you like!  Only you have the ability to respond.  Use this in boot camp, use it in Nuc school and prototype, and most of all use it in the fleet and you will do fine.  Once you take responsibility for your thoughts your action are then also your to own.  This and PMA (positive mental attitude) will get you thru the fire.

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« Reply #51 on: Aug 09, 2006, 03:45 »
Good luck to you Kreliav. I too have regretted my college choices a little (although I did choose pursuit of an engineering degree...)

The ASVAB % you refer to is actually the AFQT % (Armed forces... quantitative?) percentile sqcore, consisting of four of the 9 individual quiz scores, which is something like Arithmetic, Math Knowledge, Word Knowledge, and Reading Comprehension together.

The NUC field derived score is actually derived out of 4 various mixes other individual scores (in like, 2-3 different ways) that, if you score greater than 253, you don't need to take the NAPT / nuke test. However, if below this, and because your AFQT % is so high, you can take the Nuke test, and with a score minimum of 50+, that can be tacked onto your original derived score for a different req.

I know it seems a bloated explanation, but essentially you have several different ways to prove you're technically apt so the Navy gets a good prospective people, including those just on the border of becoming great.

I didn't take the nuke test myself, but if you brush up on your basic phys/chemistry, you should be good.

Given Navy's attitude of waivering a for those of good potential, I don't think your age waiver will be a problem at all. It might take up to a month to process, but you'll likely be in the DEP program far more than that anyway.
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« Reply #52 on: Feb 02, 2007, 07:31 »
I am going to take the Navy Nuclear test soon and I dont know what I should study. I am a little scared that i might not make the grade. Anyone that can help me please I need it.

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« Reply #53 on: Feb 02, 2007, 07:45 »
Have you tried the search?  There is much information posted about it.  I remember it covering mostly math (Algebra, Trig, geometry), chemistry and physics.

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« Reply #54 on: Feb 02, 2007, 07:52 »
I tried serching but nothing and my recruitor does not know anything about the test. The last time I was at MEPS they only told me that it would be on Physics and Math. I know I will pass the math part because I am a genuis at math but I dont know what to study when it comes to the Physics part

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« Reply #55 on: Feb 02, 2007, 09:05 »
Basic Newtonian Physics.


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« Reply #56 on: Feb 03, 2007, 12:57 »
Thanks now I will have someting to study I hope I pass.

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« Reply #57 on: Feb 03, 2007, 09:15 »
I'm a recruiter out of houston, I am a nuke.  The test is actually not that hard.  If you are being asked ot take it then you obviously have a strong background in math and science.  You can always take it again if you fail.  Don't sweat it, the administrator, probably a nuke, will help you some.

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« Reply #58 on: Feb 03, 2007, 03:32 »
thanks for all the help  :).

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« Reply #59 on: Feb 07, 2007, 06:04 »
Wait, what NFQT test?  I only took the ASVAB in MEPS and the very next day I was pulled by a Nuke recruiter and he told me if I was interested in the NF.  I never took physics in high school (big mistake, since I love math), I only took AlgI,II, Geo, and Chem.  I got a 95 in the AFQT score (whatever that means), and the guy told me that the Navy has the hardest version of the ASVAB (is it?).  I dunno, what is this NAPT test I keep hearing about?  All I know is that the ASVAB test really tested me on my lack of knowledge in the physics aspect; I'd recommend anyone going to take it to not focus merely on it, but focus on all the areas (Math, Geom, slightly Trig, slightly Physics) and basic mechanic principles.  Good luck to you guys.
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« Reply #60 on: Feb 07, 2007, 06:23 »
There is a Nuclear Field Qualification Test for everyone to pass to qualify for the nuclear program.  Recently there have been a few changes.

Score high on the applicable areas of the ASVAB and you qualify for the nuclear program with out taking the test.  For those that score high on the ASVAB overall, but may not score high on the applicable areas of the exam, they will have to pass the NFQT to make up the difference.

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« Reply #61 on: Feb 07, 2007, 07:17 »
Ohhh, that explains a lot.  Looking at my asvab scores, I scored highest in the NUC section of it.  No wonder I didn't have to take another test.  Thx for the clarification.

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« Reply #62 on: Feb 08, 2007, 03:41 »
One of the parts of the exam that I looked back on with amusement later was substituting supplied values into an equation that was also supplied to derive an answer. While it is technically an algebraic exercise, many of the equations will later be drilled into you during Nuclear Power School. It won't matter if you don't know that SUR stands for Start Up Rate, much less what SUR means.
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« Reply #63 on: Feb 08, 2007, 06:40 »
The ASVAB is the ASVAB is the ASVAB. One thing you'll learn quickly. Never believe a fellow sailor when he says something the Navy does is the "hardest" or the "best" Or when they start a story with "This is a no sh***r" Substitute the word Lie.

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« Reply #64 on: Feb 08, 2007, 08:39 »
Umm, there ARE three distinct versions of the ASVAB, and if I'm not mistaken, only Navy has a coding portion to it (though I could be wrong).  Also, the CAT (Computerized Adaptive Testing) ASVAB means just that, it adapts based on the question you answer.  On top of that, you can't go back to change your answer, which is an on the spot deal test.  No, nothing the Navy does is "harder" than anyone else, everyone gets paid the same and the strongest link in a chain is your weakest one, etc, of course, everyone knows that, after all, we are all on the same team.  The other two versions are the MET-site ASVAB and the Student ASVAB.  Plus, it wasn't a "fellow sailor" who told me that, it was the person who administered the test in MEPS.  No, he was not Navy, he was Army (R) and the other guy was Marine (R), so I don't believe their opinion (because it was just that, an opinion) was biased.

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« Reply #65 on: Feb 18, 2007, 06:03 »
Hey--I can't remember who said it, but someone said "if you score high enough on the ASVAB you don't have to take the NFQT"-not necessarily true. You have to score high enough in the right parts of the ASVAB. I made a 93 and still had to take the NFQT. I've taken the ASVAB twice-once in high school, I made a 91 then and automatically qualified. It had just been awhile since I did math.

There's a rumor (scuttlebutt?) going around about a practice Nuke test, too, so you might ask your recruiter about that.

But I'd go get a book about basic physics for dummies or similar and do as many word problems as you can.

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« Reply #66 on: Feb 18, 2007, 09:41 »
You'll do fine on the test. They will give you a calculator to work on the questions [I forgot they even gave me the calculator & finished the test early.]

Pretty much know ur units, conversion [meter/inch] & the basic physic equations [F=ma, etc]

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« Reply #67 on: Jun 02, 2008, 08:55 »
Hello everyone. I was wondering if I need to take the DLAB in order to learn arabic in the navy. I scored a 99 on the asvab, but have a GED. Also, I was wondering if I have to take the NFQT to enter the nuclear field. I have no criminal background, no tattoos, have never used illegal drugs, and am 19 years old. My recruiter said that no matter what my ASVAB score is, I still must take and pass these tests in order to qualify for the corresponding jobs. Does anyone have any information regarding this?

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John,
If you are going into the Nuke Field, you won't be learning Arabic. With or without DLAB. If you don't go Nuke, you will have to pass the DLAB to get any languages (as I understand it).

Your recruiter is probably right about the NFQT without a diploma. Don't worry, if you can't pass the NFQT then Nuke School would not be a good fit. But you should do fine with a good ASVAB score.
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« Reply #69 on: Jun 03, 2008, 02:18 »
John,
If you are going into the Nuke Field, you won't be learning Arabic. With or without DLAB. If you don't go Nuke, you will have to pass the DLAB to get any languages (as I understand it).

Your recruiter is probably right about the NFQT without a diploma. Don't worry, if you can't pass the NFQT then Nuke School would not be a good fit. But you should do fine with a good ASVAB score.

Just to augment this. the DLAB is for CT's. They go to school to learn languages, which is something we dont do. As well, if you already KNOW arabic (first language, etc), then you take a test with a linguist to get your special pay, but its not the DLAB. The DLAB is designed to test your apptitude for learning languages swiftly.

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« Reply #70 on: Jun 03, 2008, 05:41 »
Hello everyone. I was wondering if I need to take the DLAB in order to learn arabic in the navy. I scored a 99 on the asvab, but have a GED. Also, I was wondering if I have to take the NFQT to enter the nuclear field. I have no criminal background, no tattoos, have never used illegal drugs, and am 19 years old. My recruiter said that no matter what my ASVAB score is, I still must take and pass these tests in order to qualify for the corresponding jobs. Does anyone have any information regarding this?

I have a GED, I scored a 99 on the asvab and they did require me to take the NFQT. Luckily I passed it without a problem as I've been to college.

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« Reply #71 on: Sep 30, 2010, 03:41 »
hi, i was wondering if i would be able to still qaulify for Nuke. i read somewhere that your asvab score + your NAPT score has to equal 290. i didnt score high enough to qualify for nuke with the asvab, and didnt get a passing score of a 55 in the NAPT, but my scores were high enough to put me past 290. ASVAB= 247, NAPT= 49 == 296. would i be able to get in the nuke still

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hi, i was wondering if i would be able to still qaulify for Nuke. i read somewhere that your asvab score + your NAPT score has to equal 290. i didnt score high enough to qualify for nuke with the asvab, and didnt get a passing score of a 55 in the NAPT, but my scores were high enough to put me past 290. ASVAB= 247, NAPT= 49 == 296. would i be able to get in the nuke still

VE+AR+MK+NAPT = 290 (with minimum 50 NAPT score) or AR+MK+EI+GS+NAPT = 290 (with minimum 50 NAPT score) or VE+AR+MK+MC = 252 (No NAPT required) or AR+MK+EI+GS = 252 (No NAPT required).

http://usmilitary.about.com/od/navy/l/blasvabscores.htm

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« Reply #73 on: Sep 30, 2010, 05:41 »
VE+AR+MK+NAPT = 290 (with minimum 50 NAPT score) or AR+MK+EI+GS+NAPT = 290 (with minimum 50 NAPT score) or VE+AR+MK+MC = 252 (No NAPT required) or AR+MK+EI+GS = 252 (No NAPT required).


man i just missed the cutoff

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« Reply #74 on: Sep 30, 2010, 09:23 »
You'll do fine on the test. They will give you a calculator to work on the questions [I forgot they even gave me the calculator & finished the test early.]

Pretty much know ur units, conversion [meter/inch] & the basic physic equations [F=ma, etc]
Whoaaaa...calculator?? I used a calculator when I took the Nuke entry exam at the Houston, Texas Meps late in 1984 and was almost done when my recruiter walked in and told me I was not allowed to use a calculator on the exam. He took the exam from me (scored a 69 after he graded) and said that we are to pretend that it never took place and he would schedule me for another different Nuke entry exam (without the calculator) because they didnt want to ruin my future. I took "the exact same" exam the following week and scored a 72....lol
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Whoaaaa...calculator?? I used a calculator when I took the Nuke entry exam at the Houston, Texas Meps late in 1984 and was almost done when my recruiter walked in and told me I was not allowed to use a calculator on the exam. He took the exam from me (scored a 69 after he graded) and said that we are to pretend that it never took place and he would schedule me for another different Nuke entry exam (without the calculator) because they didnt want to ruin my future. I took "the exact same" exam the following week and scored a 72....lol

THEY HAD CALCULATORS PRE-1990????
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http://www.vintagecalculators.com/html/history_of_electronic_calculat.html
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« Reply #77 on: Oct 01, 2010, 03:08 »
That's not "Those Were the Days", that was the All In the Family Theme Song.

"Those Were the Days" was some Russian sounding thing covered by lots of folks but I always relate it to Tony Orlando and Dawn, although I do not know if they even covered it. "Those Were the Days" just seems to fit Tony Orlando and Dawn perfectly, you may be a few years too young to remember all this.
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Here...I even found it on YouTube for you: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=znrjbo9QRLk

Apparently you're getting too old...forgetting your 1970s sitcom song lyrics already?

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« Reply #78 on: Oct 01, 2010, 05:08 »
frickin' nukes,...always gotta have a comeback,...... :P :) ;) ;D 8)  ROFL :-> [quit] [Flamer]

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THEY HAD CALCULATORS PRE-1990????
Whoaaa.....


Long in the tooth that I am, they had calculators back in 1974, although we weren't allowed to use them.  Went through nuke school using a slide rule for all the math.  Nowadays it's just a neat looking ruler that extends out.  Don't ask me how it works anymore for math, though I knew once a long time ago, and I was amazed then at how accurate they were overall.
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« Reply #80 on: Oct 01, 2010, 06:48 »
Long in the tooth that I am, they had calculators back in 1974,

Yes but they cost a weeks pay or more and did less than the ones built into rulers and clipboards now.

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« Reply #81 on: Oct 01, 2010, 01:28 »
Long in the tooth that I am, they had calculators back in 1974, although we weren't allowed to use them.  Went through nuke school using a slide rule for all the math.  Nowadays it's just a neat looking ruler that extends out.  Don't ask me how it works anymore for math, though I knew once a long time ago, and I was amazed then at how accurate they were overall.


I went through Nuke school with a slide rule too, and still have it.  When I took it to work almost no one there had ever seen one, much less knew how to use it.  It's amazing that instrument technicians who are responsible for calibrating logarithmic instruments don't understand what logarithms are.
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« Reply #82 on: Oct 06, 2010, 02:27 »
Do you have to be able to pass the physical requirements to be a navy nuke?

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« Reply #83 on: Oct 06, 2010, 02:59 »
Do you have to be able to pass the physical requirements to be a navy nuke?



WTF ?? Officially the stupidest question I've seen here.

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« Reply #84 on: Oct 06, 2010, 03:08 »
You mean they can't just slide Stephen Hawking down the torpedo reload assembly?!? 

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« Reply #85 on: Oct 06, 2010, 03:16 »
My eye nearly snapped when they rolled back so hard.

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My eye nearly snapped when they rolled back so hard.

took a 75 R dose to the brain, did ye? ;)

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took a 75 R dose to the brain, did ye? ;)

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« Reply #88 on: Oct 07, 2010, 05:03 »
Do you have to be able to pass the physical requirements to be a navy nuke?


Yes, you do. I am in dep and as far as I have experienced, in regards to physical activity, I have been treated no differently than any other future sailor. Weight limits and PT standards are the same for everyone.
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« Reply #89 on: Oct 20, 2010, 09:17 »
Well, I've got a few questions to what is exactly on the test. I've looked around here the past few days and have gotten physics, algebra 1-2, geometry, and chemistry. I was just wandering if this is correct and if so, what type of questions should I expect from each subject? Chem and Physics are full of info, so I'd like to know if I'm id'ing molecules and calculating mech advantage, or going way beyond into the advanced fields.

I'm very nervous for the test, and so have been studying like crazy. I did well on my asvab, 88, and was only 4 points off, 246 out 250, from being automatically qualified for nuke. With that in mind, should I be stressing so much over the NAPT?

Also, I've already signed a contract for IT, I've heard nuke has high drop out rates and they have a high quota to meet, so I should have no trouble getting in right?

Lastly, I hear they let you use calculators, so can you use a texas instruments Ti-84 graphing? It can transmit data, which I heard they disqualifies them. If anybody knows if they check, and go by this it would be great, and if so recommend a good graphing, or scientific calculator which fits the regulations.

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« Reply #90 on: Oct 21, 2010, 01:15 »
Don't take this the wrong way, but the purpose of the test is see if you have the background to be successful in the pipeline.  Unless you're several years removed from school I don't think there are any topics that can be pinpointed as more important than others.  It's been 26 years since I took the exam and I'm sure it's different now. 

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« Reply #91 on: Oct 21, 2010, 04:40 »
They provided a calculator for my test. It was ancient. Had a 3-state switch nobody knew the function of. Anyways, I don't remember the test so well so I couldn't tell you what was on it, sorry. It was mostly math on my version, though. Not too much chemistry. The only equations I remember needing to recall were for area and volume. Don't stress about it. Hopefully you like your original rating just in case. Good luck.

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« Reply #92 on: Oct 23, 2010, 08:16 »
My son had scored a 99 on the ASVAB back in January at MEPS  and they told him that he had automatically qualified for nuke and was supposed to meet the nuke recruiter that same day to complete his package, but by chance the nuclear recruiter was not at MEPS that day. They had to come back next week.  On the return visit to MEPS the nuclear officer was there and he made them all take the NAPT anyway.  He scored a 69 out of 80.   My son says it was not hard. They handed out 4 function calculators to use even though he brought a graphing calculator with him. 

Best of luck to you.



I'm very nervous for the test, and so have been studying like crazy. I did well on my asvab, 88, and was only 4 points off, 246 out 250, from being automatically qualified for nuke. With that in mind, should I be stressing so much over the NAPT?



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« Reply #93 on: Oct 23, 2010, 11:19 »
Lastly, I hear they let you use calculators, so can you use a texas instruments Ti-84 graphing? It can transmit data, which I heard they disqualifies them. If anybody knows if they check, and go by this it would be great, and if so recommend a good graphing, or scientific calculator which fits the regulations.
My first recommendation is to ask your Nuke Recruiter.  He'll have the lastest information for you.

Secondly, reconsider your thoughts of "maybe my calculator is illegal but hey guys...do they check?".   Do the right thing in this field.  That simple philosophy will carry you a LONG way.  Besides, guess what happens if someone figures out DURING the exam that you're essentially cheating.   Feel free to search "cheating" and "integrity" in this forum in your spare time even if only to note the number of postings on the subject.

Finally, I don't think I ever used a graphing calculator for anything but calculus courses (outside the Navy).  A cheap Casio FX114 or whatever $20 or less scientific calculator should be fine.  Otherwise, I'm known to read more into postings here than I should, but it sounds like you have a fear of math (i.e., using a calculator as a crutch?).    The (only?) way to ease your fear of this important subject is to practice, practice, practice.   In the future, you'll likely be more graded on how you set up a problem...not how fast your fingers got to a 5 significant digit number that fails to answer the question.   It's been awhile, but you may find yourself losing only 0.5 pts on an 8 pt question for a math error, and all 8 pts if you fail to understand the concept.

The best advice I received in high school from my amazing Physics teacher:   "I don't care what YOUR answer is...I want to know how you got there!"

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« Reply #94 on: Nov 07, 2010, 06:08 »
Hi guys.. so heres my situation maybe you can help me out. I scored a 92 on the AFQT my combined total of all the tests was 650.. my requiter says thats good. The paper i got also says i don't need to take the NAPT.. however my problem is i didn't go to a tier 1 school in high school and the highest math class i've complete was basic algebra. i was told not completing higher math makes it hard to get into nuke. I've had hardly any college classes and i'm beginning to think my recruiter might be slow.. does anyone have any advice on what i should do to make sure i get in and if i even qualify?? any advice would be welcome.

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« Reply #95 on: Nov 07, 2010, 07:18 »
Here is some advice:

Avoid pointing out 'stupid' things that 'smart' people do, because the 'smart' person knows what he is doing (that is why they are deemed 'smart') and the fact that you may think it was 'stupid' is because you are so.



A little advice: When giving advice ensure what you write is grammatically correct or you would not be deemed "smart".  Thus your awesome advice may not be taken and the person receiving it may suffer as a result.
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« Reply #96 on: Nov 07, 2010, 07:42 »
Hi guys.. so heres my situation maybe you can help me out. I scored a 92 on the AFQT my combined total of all the tests was 650.. my requiter says thats good. The paper i got also says i don't need to take the NAPT.. however my problem is i didn't go to a tier 1 school in high school and the highest math class i've complete was basic algebra. i was told not completing higher math makes it hard to get into nuke. I've had hardly any college classes and i'm beginning to think my recruiter might be slow.. does anyone have any advice on what i should do to make sure i get in and if i even qualify?? any advice would be welcome.

What do you mean when you say you "didn't go to a tier I school in high school"?  If you graduated from a traditional state-accredited public or private high school, you're tier I.  If you acquired your high school diploma from a non-traditional source (GED, foreign high school, home-school, etc) then you're tier II.  If you were home-schooled and you got above a 50 on the AFQT, you're upgraded to tier I (but you still need to take the NAPT).

The nuke requirement for math is Algebra I.  Pre-algebra is not acceptable.

Here's a quote from COMNAVCRUITCOM 1130.8H Volume 4 Section 010102
http://www.cnrc.navy.mil/publications/Directives/1130_8H_VOL%20IV_Programs%20%26%20Classification-with%20CH%206.pdf

"a. Education

(1) HSDG Required. Applicants for the NF Program must be HSDG from a state-
accredited high school and coded as “12L”. Applicants who attended any non-
traditional program during high school, applicants who attained HSDG status by any
means other than a state-accredited high school diploma, and applicants that graduated
from a foreign high school require a NF Type 2 Non-Traditional Education Waiver.
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(3) Algebra. Applicants must have completed one year of high school or college
level algebra."
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« Reply #97 on: Nov 07, 2010, 05:54 »
What do you mean when you say you "didn't go to a tier I school in high school"?

Oh nothing, just my recruiter told me that they might not except me because i went to a tier II school... anyways thanks for the info and the help. I wasn't getting any answer to my questions with the recruiter so i figured I'd try a forum and see what I got. It was helpful.

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« Reply #98 on: Nov 08, 2010, 04:32 »
. And they will both clearly understand each other with a vocabulary of 100 words, not all of English origin.

and if they don't have a word for it, the placeholder word is "donkey **** apparatus"  ;)

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« Reply #99 on: Nov 18, 2010, 09:26 »
Hi. I am 17, still in high school, and just signed up for the Navy. I got an 87 on my ASVAB, but scored a 238 on NUKE so I have to take the test as well. My current job is a CTR so I am not sure if I should try for NUKE or not. I have been adviced to by my recruiter and the Chief, but not sure how I will do. Can anyone tell me  what type of things are on the test? Last night was my first time even hearing the word NUKE!!!!
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« Reply #100 on: Nov 18, 2010, 10:37 »
Hi. I am 17, still in high school, and just signed up for the Navy. I got an 87 on my ASVAB, but scored a 238 on NUKE so I have to take the test as well. My current job is a CTR so I am not sure if I should try for NUKE or not. I have been adviced to by my recruiter and the Chief, but not sure how I will do. Can anyone tell me  what type of things are on the test? Last night was my first time even hearing the word NUKE!!!!
While you're going to get 40 people that tell you to start researching the Forum threads for your answers (and trust me...there are tons of unsorted Q&As with many "golden nuggets" for you to find), I'll offer a quick bit of advice:

Consider your resume in 6-8 years after the Navy when you're looking to get out.   What do you want to get out of the Navy (e.g., experience, education) that will help with those goals?    The question doesn't imply you have an immediate answer since many of us were once in your exact shoes.   Go to Monster.com (et al.) and find out who and how many are hiring Nukes, and how many are hiring Crypto Techs without college degrees.   

In comparison, I usually ask the same thing of guys wanting to go SEALS.    "How do you plan to market your skills in the civilian world....assuming you come back from the desert in one piece?"   (Usually got a blank stare on that one).  Glamorous titles don't always mean much on a resume.

As far as ANY recruiter goes, this joke applies about 110% of the time:  http://www.ahajokes.com/hea26.html

Good luck on your journey.  I doubt you'll lose...regardless of the path.

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« Reply #101 on: Nov 18, 2010, 11:54 »
Remember this day.  If you end up going nuke, you'll remember the day because it's a decision that will shape your life, good or bad.  As far as what's on the test, it's mostly higher level Algebra, Basic Physics and Basic Chemistry.  Since you're still in school, I doubt you'd benefit from studying too much.

No matter what field you select, remember the things that will help you succeed in the Navy are the same things that will set you up for success when you get out.

I joined the Navy with the intention of being a radioman.  I changed to nuke at the last minute.  It was the best decision I ever made.  Good Luck!  Let us know what you decide to do.
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« Reply #102 on: Nov 18, 2010, 04:54 »
Hi. I am 17, still in high school, and just signed up for the Navy. I got an 87 on my ASVAB, but scored a 238 on NUKE so I have to take the test as well. My current job is a CTR so I am not sure if I should try for NUKE or not. I have been adviced to by my recruiter and the Chief, but not sure how I will do. Can anyone tell me  what type of things are on the test? Last night was my first time even hearing the word NUKE!!!!

Do you want to do exciting technical things that no one understands?

Want stimulating schools that teach one-of-a-kind procedures on old legacy equipment?

And, do you want to do them in an air-conditioned cube farm, or out at sea in a sweaty engineroom and eating monkey-on-a-stick in exotic ports of call? ;)

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« Reply #103 on: Nov 18, 2010, 04:58 »
I will definitely keep you guys posted. I really do appreciate all the great advise and comments that you guys have given me because right now, you all are all I have to go by. My family is not the most supportive or even try to stay informed with what I do, and my recruiter has little information about because he is not a NUKE. So thanks everyone for your help.
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« Reply #104 on: Nov 18, 2010, 05:24 »
I will definitely keep you guys posted. I really do appreciate all the great advise and comments that you guys have given me because right now, you all are all I have to go by. My family is not the most supportive or even try to stay informed with what I do, and my recruiter has little information about because he is not a NUKE. So thanks everyone for your help.
The above link given to you would be of great help.  Read everything you can on these forums and most of your questions will be answered.  There are many here who can be very helpful.  Congratulations on your desire to serve our country, we are lucky to have you.  Now, go do some research!!
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« Reply #105 on: Nov 19, 2010, 04:48 »
The above link given to you would be of great help.  Read everything you can on these forums and most of your questions will be answered.  There are many here who can be very helpful.  Congratulations on your desire to serve our country, we are lucky to have you.  Now, go do some research!!

I am in the process of researching now. My recruiter is giving me little time to think this through because he has already scheduled for me to take the NUKE test, and continues to persuade me into believing that this is the best choice for me with no proof or reason. Also, I am unable to access the link you attempted to provide me with.
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« Reply #106 on: Nov 19, 2010, 05:25 »
My first recommendation is to ask your Nuke Recruiter.  He'll have the lastest information for you.

Secondly, reconsider your thoughts of "maybe my calculator is illegal but hey guys...do they check?".   Do the right thing in this field.  That simple philosophy will carry you a LONG way.  Besides, guess what happens if someone figures out DURING the exam that you're essentially cheating.   Feel free to search "cheating" and "integrity" in this forum in your spare time even if only to note the number of postings on the subject.

Finally, I don't think I ever used a graphing calculator for anything but calculus courses (outside the Navy).  A cheap Casio FX114 or whatever $20 or less scientific calculator should be fine.  Otherwise, I'm known to read more into postings here than I should, but it sounds like you have a fear of math (i.e., using a calculator as a crutch?).    The (only?) way to ease your fear of this important subject is to practice, practice, practice.   In the future, you'll likely be more graded on how you set up a problem...not how fast your fingers got to a 5 significant digit number that fails to answer the question.   It's been awhile, but you may find yourself losing only 0.5 pts on an 8 pt question for a math error, and all 8 pts if you fail to understand the concept.

The best advice I received in high school from my amazing Physics teacher:   "I don't care what YOUR answer is...I want to know how you got there!"

Welcome to the world of Engineering.

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I do not have a NUKE recruiter because my recruiter is not a NUKE. How do I get in contact with one?
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« Reply #107 on: Nov 19, 2010, 04:39 »
Do you want to do exciting technical things that no one understands?

Want stimulating schools that teach one-of-a-kind procedures on old legacy equipment?

And, do you want to do them in an air-conditioned cube farm, or out at sea in a sweaty engineroom and eating monkey-on-a-stick in exotic ports of call? ;)

I do want change. That was the reason for joining the Navy. After researching it, I want to take the NUKE test and am looking foward to the future as a NUKE.
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« Reply #108 on: Nov 20, 2010, 05:41 »
I do not have a NUKE recruiter because my recruiter is not a NUKE. How do I get in contact with one?
You walk into your recruiter's office and ask for a name and telephone number.  Then you say, "I'll continue discussing Navy options with you once I speak with someone that can anwer my specific questions."

You DO have a Nuclear Recruiter...you just haven't asked to speak with him yet.  Right?


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« Reply #109 on: Nov 20, 2010, 06:41 »
http://www.navy.com/navy/careers/nuclear-energy/nuclear-operations.html

Plenty of links to get more info here.

Hope this helps.
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« Reply #110 on: Nov 20, 2010, 02:09 »
You walk into your recruiter's office and ask for a name and telephone number.  Then you say, "I'll continue discussing Navy options with you once I speak with someone that can anwer my specific questions."

You DO have a Nuclear Recruiter...you just haven't asked to speak with him yet.  Right?



I was not aware that there even were different types of recruiters. I definitely did not know that there was a NUKE recruiter because up until two days ago, I didn't know what NUKE was. I am scheduled to take my NUKE test on Tuesday, so should I ask for a NUKE recruiter before or after I take it?
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« Reply #111 on: Nov 20, 2010, 02:34 »
I was not aware that there even were different types of recruiters. I definitely did not know that there was a NUKE recruiter because up until two days ago, I didn't know what NUKE was. I am scheduled to take my NUKE test on Tuesday, so should I ask for a NUKE recruiter before or after I take it?
Before you sign the dotted line.  Make sure someone has answered all your questions...in person.

The test is simply a preemployment test.   If you pass, you can be considered for a position, which you have to formally accept.   Otherwise, there are many fine jobs in the Navy.

Again, I only offer a suggestion for you to look at what you think you may want to do AFTER the Navy.   Personally, I don't think you can go wrong with a tour in the Military...as long as you get an education or skill set out of it.   Hence, my question...what do you plan on doing after the Navy as a Crypto Tech?   Maybe just the GI Bill and college afterwards?  Nothing wrong with that either.   All questions for you to decide.

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« Reply #112 on: Nov 22, 2010, 02:56 »
Before you sign the dotted line.  Make sure someone has answered all your questions...in person.

The test is simply a preemployment test.   If you pass, you can be considered for a position, which you have to formally accept.   Otherwise, there are many fine jobs in the Navy.

Again, I only offer a suggestion for you to look at what you think you may want to do AFTER the Navy.   Personally, I don't think you can go wrong with a tour in the Military...as long as you get an education or skill set out of it.   Hence, my question...what do you plan on doing after the Navy as a Crypto Tech?   Maybe just the GI Bill and college afterwards?  Nothing wrong with that either.   All questions for you to decide.


I plan to just stay in the Navy for as long as I can. This is why I hope to get a job a truly enjoy because I am hopefully going to be doing it the next 30 or so years. My goal is to be financially stable by the time I get out.

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« Reply #113 on: Nov 22, 2010, 03:37 »
As of November 10th (my last day at the office) there were still NO nuke tests to be given. They were still pending reissue. I suggest that Deannatroy use the phone number I sent in my PM to my relief as Nuke coordinator. He will be more than happy to supply any answers requested! Call him SOONER rather than LATER! Don't wait-be proactive!
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« Reply #114 on: Nov 25, 2010, 10:34 »
I have decided to just stick with being a CTR after doing an extensive amount of research. This field in no way interest me regardless of how much it pays and if I am capable of doing it. I thank everyone who has helped me to come to this conclusion and wish you all the best. For those who are in the Navy, maybe we will bump into each other on a ship. Until then...
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« Reply #115 on: May 22, 2011, 04:47 »
Be prepared to take the NAPT anyway. I scored a 99 on my ASVAB with a Nuke score of 268 and they still want me to take it because I haven't taken a math course in over 2 years. It's completely messed up my enlistment though because somebody left a safe open at a MEPS center and NCIS has to investigate to determine whether the test was compromised or not.

Edit: I see this was the issue way back in November 2010. I think the safe was compromised a second time since then though...
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« Reply #116 on: Feb 08, 2012, 06:17 »

Which is anti ethical to being a nuke.

Mike

The word you're looking for is "antithetical" as in antithesis.  While I agree with your point, I don't think there is anything unethical about poor grammar.

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« Reply #117 on: Feb 08, 2012, 10:22 »
Antiethical works just as well nub.

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« Reply #118 on: Feb 13, 2012, 03:00 »
im takeing the napt test on wed and im worried about how ill do, i got an 86 on my asvab and a 245 on my nuc line score, it seems like i have to get a combined score of my nuke and my napt of 290, and i would only need a 45 to do that, is that correct? and if so how hard will it be to get that score? ive never taken chemistry, physics, or trig, but that was because i was lazy in highschool, not uninteligent. ive been studying the basic concepts of physics and chem, how much more do i need to know and how much do i need to worry?

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« Reply #119 on: Feb 13, 2012, 10:02 »
im takeing the napt test on wed and im worried about how ill do, i got an 86 on my asvab and a 245 on my nuc line score, it seems like i have to get a combined score of my nuke and my napt of 290, and i would only need a 45 to do that, is that correct? and if so how hard will it be to get that score? ive never taken chemistry, physics, or trig, but that was because i was lazy in highschool, not uninteligent. ive been studying the basic concepts of physics and chem, how much more do i need to know and how much do i need to worry?

Heres the deal. You're gonna get yapped at for not searching. You need to do a search for yourself. This question has been answered a myriad of times, and your situation is not unique.  It will also allow you to potentially answer more questions you may have in the future.

Yes you should worry. This test will ultimately decide your future. Want to pass? Go study.

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« Reply #120 on: Feb 14, 2012, 02:23 »
im takeing the napt test on wed and im worried about how ill do, i got an 86 on my asvab and a 245 on my nuc line score, it seems like i have to get a combined score of my nuke and my napt of 290, and i would only need a 45 to do that, is that correct? and if so how hard will it be to get that score? ive never taken chemistry, physics, or trig, but that was because i was lazy in highschool, not uninteligent. ive been studying the basic concepts of physics and chem, how much more do i need to know and how much do i need to worry?

u might do alright if they have no gramer porshun. My advice is to just blow away the ASVAB so you don't have to take the test....

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« Reply #121 on: Feb 14, 2012, 04:02 »
Fleet needs more A-Gang!  8)

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Re: Nuke Qualifying Test
« Reply #122 on: Jul 17, 2013, 07:42 »
Just an update on this question. I went to MEPS St. Louis yesterday and scored a 99 on the ASVAB. However, I was told that just because I went to private school I would have to take the additional test. No one told me about that before I went down to MEPS, and they wouldn't let me take it that day, even though the administrator was there and we had the time. So I'm going to have to take another day off work sometime and drive the several hours to St. Louis to take the test, in spite of an impressive ASVAB score (if I do say so myself). Forget the fact that private schools on average test better than public schools, forget that I just basically aced the ASVAB. It's basically just another thing the government does because you came from a non-government school.

Hopefully I'll be able to do as well on the advanced placement test and get a nuke slot. My recruiter told me that I probably wouldn't ship out to boot camp/basic training till March of next year so it's not like I don't have the time to study and take that test. But I'm hoping to get everything squared away early so if a slot opens before then I can go early.

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Re: Nuke Qualifying Test
« Reply #123 on: Jul 17, 2013, 08:39 »
Forget the fact that private schools on average test better than public schools, forget that I just basically aced the ASVAB. It's basically just another thing the government does because you came from a non-government school.

I would love to comment but I would have to send my post and this thread to PolySci.  ;)

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Re: Nuke Qualifying Test
« Reply #124 on: Jul 17, 2013, 08:57 »
.....Forget the fact that private schools on average test better than public schools, forget that I just basically aced the ASVAB. It's basically just another thing the government does because you came from a non-government school....

I would love to comment but I would have to send my post and this thread to PolySci.  ;)

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better the OP get accustomed to it early and often,...

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Re: Nuke Qualifying Test
« Reply #125 on: Jul 17, 2013, 09:26 »
First piece of advice; lose the attitude about your education being better than public school and the government making you take another test because you didn't attend a "government school".

Sections 2.d, 2.e, and 2.f of the below link all specifically mention high school.
http://www.public.navy.mil/bupers-npc/reference/milpersman/1000/1300Assignment/Documents/1306-502.pdf

Additionally, the recruiters have their own procedures that they must follow, with specific instructions for home schooled individuals.

As a Nuke, regulations, procedures and established processes are simply not put in place so the government has control of stuff ( for the most part, that is).  Our entire field (Navy) and industry (civilian) revolve around the simple process of procedural compliance.  We do NOT deviate from approved procedures and processes without good reason.  When we do deviate, there is a process laid out to do just that while rectifying the deficiency that drove us in that direction in the first place.

Additionally, neither high ASVAB nor Nuke field test scores are any guarantee of success in the Nuke field.  I had a guy in my class score a 99, along with a 78 on the Nuke test.  He also was Valedictorian of his private high school graduating class, which he took every opportunity to remind us "public school flunkies" (his words) of.  He failed out week 7 of Power School. 

Both tests, coupled with exposure to chemistry, algebra, and physics from high school, simply give a rough indicator of an individual's potential to learn and understand the concepts taught and successfully complete the training pipeline.

Simply put, you have the potential to complete the Navy's Nuclear training program.  If you can handle the military side of things as well, that is.

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Re: Nuke Qualifying Test
« Reply #126 on: Jul 17, 2013, 02:30 »
Forget the fact that private schools on average test better than public schools, forget that I just basically aced the ASVAB.


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Re: Nuke Qualifying Test
« Reply #127 on: Jul 17, 2013, 02:55 »
Wow, I ought to tell me daughter, a public schooled kid, she has no right being the top of her class at Sewanee which is one of the top schools in the country with nearly 95% of the students being private schooled.

I guess I had no business being top of my Nuke school class with all the private schooled genius types who went to school with me.

Snowflake drop the attitude.

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Re: Nuke Qualifying Test
« Reply #128 on: Jul 17, 2013, 03:43 »
Still have to appreciate the attitude, remember high school college and boot camp thinking you were smarter than everyone else because you didn't have to study etc. Then getting thrown in the Nuke program and realizing you may have been mistaken, then commercial and finding out you were totally wrong.

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Re: Nuke Qualifying Test
« Reply #129 on: Jul 17, 2013, 04:28 »
I studied a lot harder in commercial because I had to. Everything was so much more complex. I think maybe in NNPS I signed in to study about 15 hours total.

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Re: Nuke Qualifying Test
« Reply #130 on: Jul 17, 2013, 05:29 »
I think maybe in NNPS I signed in to study about 15 hours total.

That was just to correct some of the instructor's exam keys, right?  8)

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Re: Nuke Qualifying Test
« Reply #131 on: Jul 23, 2013, 01:40 »
Just an update on this question. I went to MEPS St. Louis yesterday and scored a 99 on the ASVAB. However, I was told that just because I went to private school I would have to take the additional test. No one told me about that before I went down to MEPS, and they wouldn't let me take it that day, even though the administrator was there and we had the time. So I'm going to have to take another day off work sometime and drive the several hours to St. Louis to take the test, in spite of an impressive ASVAB score (if I do say so myself). Forget the fact that private schools on average test better than public schools, forget that I just basically aced the ASVAB. It's basically just another thing the government does because you came from a non-government school.


I also aced the ASVAB, went to a public school, and attended college...still had to take the NAPT.  It has nothing to do with public vs. private.  You can ace the ASVAB and still not line score high enough for nuke, which is why some people get made to take the NAPT.  In my case, it was because of a rather poor showing of my knowledge in college math.
 
If you want some advice, don't take things personally.  It's a rule, just the way it is.  If you make it into the program, you will have upwards of two years (of training anyways)  of doing things that make no sense because someone, higher rank than you, determined that is the way it should be.  It is much easier to keep your head down, do what is asked of you, and realize that everybody is being made to do the same thing.  Don't be the guy always complaining about cleaning, standing night study watch, security watch, or any of the myriad of things that come about in A school and NPS.  Just get it over with, and move on.  Your happiness, and everyone else's too, will be just a tad higher.

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Re: Nuke Qualifying Test
« Reply #132 on: Jul 30, 2013, 08:19 »
cz9mmer... Don't join the navy, you're way too smart for even the Nuke Program

IM KIDDING, 1. TONS of nukes get 99 on their ASVAB, so you may be smart compared to bubba who can barely read but you most likely WON'T be the smartest wanna-be nuke in your A-school or Power School class. 2. The whole, I'm smarter than you and too good for this attitude is exactly what I had going into bootcamp and A-school, trust me you don't want that attitude but don't worry they will change it for you realllllyyyy quick or you just won't be around anymore (your choice). 3. I had a 99 asvab too and had to take the nuke test because i got a D in Calculus the last quarter of my senior year of PUBLIC high school (I missed 24 days that quarter because in my mind i was DONE :P ) 4. The nuke test isn't difficult, it's basic math and science questions that anyone as smart as YOU should be able to get no problem. 5. A-school and Power School has little to do with your intelligence and more to do with WORK ETHIC and ability to memorize things.

GOOD LUCK

 

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