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« on: Apr 11, 2002, 10:13 »
Just thought there should be a thread where posts could be placed to pass along helpful hints among the HP tech pool. Things like rules of thumb, helpful hints for dealing with situations, ways to do the job just a little easier with perhaps a touch of professionalism tossed in for good measure.
For instance, I have found that when setting up rad barrier rope that may be expanded or shrunk repeatedly for storage of RAM, a knot called the tauntline knot is invaluable.  This knot will stay where you place it and yet can be slipped along the rope run easily to shorten or lenghten the distance of a boundary.  
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Re: practical hints
« Reply #1 on: Apr 20, 2002, 03:01 »
One of the best pieces of advice given to me during my first week in the business was "Keep your mouth shut and your eyes and ears open."  Twenty some years later I still follow this advice.
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Re: practical hints
« Reply #2 on: May 04, 2002, 11:53 »
Practical hints huh? Well this one works for me:

Whenever I get assigned a Rad-Protection Coverage Job, I say to myself " Oh C.R.A.P."
C: What are the Contamination aspects of the Job, and Protection thereof.
R: What are the Radiation aspects of the Job with thoughts of the Time, distance, and shielding requirements.
A: Are there any Airborne concerns to be addressed by Respo or engineering controls.
P: What are the Personnel monitoring concerns.

So, whenever the Supervisor gives you a job assignment, just say "oh C.R.A.P.
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Re: practical hints
« Reply #3 on: Feb 27, 2003, 02:50 »
R.A.S.P
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Re: practical hints
« Reply #4 on: Feb 27, 2003, 02:53 »
Dark Matter - Excellent! CRAP indeed. I will remember that one! A karma dot for you.

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Re: practical hints
« Reply #5 on: Feb 27, 2003, 03:48 »
A standard piece of paper is 11 and 3 quarters inches long, if you don't have a measuring device for 12 inches.

(Editor's note: Actually it is 11 inches exactly, but the principal still works)
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Re: practical hints
« Reply #6 on: Mar 14, 2003, 01:54 »
If you're not sure what to do...........do nothing.  ;D

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Re: practical hints
« Reply #7 on: Mar 14, 2003, 02:57 »
SloGlo, nice thread.
When working a DOE site, we had to run LONG lengths of rad rope between stanchions (usually a piece of rebar sunk in a 5 gal bucket of concrete) and would use a clove hitch to attach the rope to the stanchion. The rope stays tight without having to tie a knot. I'll have to try the taughtline.

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Re: practical hints
« Reply #8 on: Mar 14, 2003, 05:55 »
Heather Hatton once told me the 3 rules to be a returnee.

1. Relieve on time.

2. Park where you are suppose to.

3. Keep your mouth shut.

My 3 rules  of road teching.

1. Deny everything

2. Demand proof

3. Keep it out of town. ;D

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Re: practical hints
« Reply #9 on: Mar 25, 2003, 09:04 »
want a fast check to get a grip on yer airborne filter to see iffen ya really got a problem?  gets yer meter (frisker) 'n get a count on the sample side of the paper.  then get a count on the back side of the paper.   subtract the back from the front 'n this'll give ya an idea how much alpha ya got there, 'k?  then iffen ya ratio yer alpha to yer beta/gamma yinze get an idea iffen yer sucking radon or iffen there's a real problem.  it ain't foolproof, 'n i wouldn't set respiratory equipment reqs by it, but it works when yer inna down 'n dirty!  helps when yer dealing with a lot of smearable h3 too.
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Re: practical hints
« Reply #10 on: Mar 25, 2003, 12:53 »
Believe what your meter reads.

If you don't believe what your meter reads - leave - and take the crew with you.

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Re: practical hints
« Reply #11 on: Mar 25, 2003, 02:37 »
Dang, Slogo - that's a new one on me.  How's about being a little more detailed for us old dogs who have trouble learning new tricks, please?  ???

I'm going to print out this thread, if no one objects, and use it for the juniors working here.  These poor people get almost no training and these little hints are invaluable.  Thanks to all present and future contributors.  You know it's bad when the techs think the RadWorker handouts I've brought in from other places are Tech training (actually, I guess they are to some extent).

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Re: practical hints
« Reply #12 on: Mar 26, 2003, 08:57 »
'k o the a/s thingie...
post sampling;
side a = sample side, inlet surface, aka dirty side.
side b = pump side, outlet surface, aka clean side.
read both side w/ frisker.  if side a has a higher count rate, you have an excellent chance of alpha being present as alpha will not penetrate the paper, thus not being detected on the b side frisk.  ratio the frisker values and compare against your radon ratio, if the ratios ~ match, you're seeing alot of radon and not much else.
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Re: practical hints
« Reply #13 on: May 18, 2005, 04:31 »
Write it down, who, what, where, why and how apply to almost any job. This way you have a log book to look back on in case any questions come up.

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Re: practical hints
« Reply #14 on: May 18, 2005, 04:35 »
You can always learn something new.

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Re: practical hints
« Reply #15 on: May 18, 2005, 04:53 »
I'm in the habit of keeping a log book and have had to use it several times to find survey data or location of something I surveyed that was lost,what I was told by who ,when etc.
The most important thing I try to tell new people is read the procedures.It's hard to keep up if your on the road but anyplace that your there for a while learn them.They will keep you out of trouble if you know them and get you into trouble if you don't.

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Re: practical hints
« Reply #16 on: May 18, 2005, 06:48 »
The log book is the way to go! I’ve found that with age I have a hard time remembering things, even for a few minutes. Forget trying to remember meter numbers! I also make a copy of all the surveys I do and keep them in a file at home. This has come in handy many times. One thing I was told when I first entered the business was “Don’t look up with your mouth open” it’s hard to do until something actually falls in there. 

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Re: practical hints
« Reply #17 on: May 19, 2005, 07:44 »
WD40 is great for removing tape residue.


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Re: practical hints
« Reply #18 on: May 19, 2005, 08:00 »
WD40 is great for removing tape residue.




From you or the equipment? :)

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Re: practical hints
« Reply #19 on: May 19, 2005, 10:02 »
From you or the equipment? :)

Yes.  ;D
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Re: practical hints
« Reply #20 on: May 20, 2005, 03:04 »
A standard piece of paper is 11 and 3 quarters inches long, if you don't have a measuring device for 12 inches.

(Editor's note: Actually it is 11 inches exactly, but the principal still works)

iffen yer kneading two noe how far a foot is, oar thurty centymeters, use 2 won dollar bills as each is 6" long.
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Re: practical hints
« Reply #21 on: May 20, 2005, 03:15 »
Never talk down to the crew you're covering. Treat them with a little respect.  It goes a long way in making your job easier.

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« Reply #22 on: May 20, 2005, 03:17 »
I never knew the dollar rule, cool    I use my boot its 11 in. long

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Re: practical hints
« Reply #23 on: May 21, 2005, 02:11 »
Another practical hint that really works:

When at a control point or on a Rad Coverage Job and a Overseer (Manager, INPO, NRC, etc.) comes by asking questions.

1. Begin reeling off all dose rates, contamination levels, job history, heat stress concerns, etc. etc. etc. that you can come up with.

The human brain can only remember 4 to 5 things at a time (7 if you're good). So the Overseer eyes will begin to glaze over after a few minutes and he will wander off not remembering any particular thing except a vague recollection that the Tech on the job has everything covered.
This really works, try it. You will be amazed how easy it is to get these people to wander off and go bug somebody else.
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Re: practical hints
« Reply #24 on: May 21, 2005, 09:37 »
Another practical hint that really works:

When at a control point or on a Rad Coverage Job and a Overseer (Manager, INPO, NRC, etc.) comes by asking questions.

1. Begin reeling off all dose rates, contamination levels, job history, heat stress concerns, etc. etc. etc. that you can come up with.

The human brain can only remember 4 to 5 things at a time (7 if you're good). So the Overseer eyes will begin to glaze over after a few minutes and he will wander off not remembering any particular thing except a vague recollection that the Tech on the job has everything covered.
This really works, try it. You will be amazed how easy it is to get these people to wander off and go bug somebody else.

Now THAT is a practical hint! And it works, too.
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Re: practical hints
« Reply #25 on: May 21, 2005, 02:07 »
WD40 is great for removing tape residue.




I have also found WD40 to be the most useful thing for removing any kind of grease or oil from dirty hands.

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Re: practical hints
« Reply #26 on: May 21, 2005, 02:58 »
Another practical hint that really works:

When at a control point or on a Rad Coverage Job and a Overseer (Manager, INPO, NRC, etc.) comes by asking questions.

1. Begin reeling off all dose rates, contamination levels, job history, heat stress concerns, etc. etc. etc. that you can come up with.

The human brain can only remember 4 to 5 things at a time (7 if you're good). So the Overseer eyes will begin to glaze over after a few minutes and he will wander off not remembering any particular thing except a vague recollection that the Tech on the job has everything covered.
This really works, try it. You will be amazed how easy it is to get these people to wander off and go bug somebody else.

knot two rein awn dis pairaide, but yinz gotta watch out fer peeple that take notes, 'cause iffen yer off by a significant amount yule phind yerself playing "tech a".
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Re: practical hints
« Reply #27 on: Jul 08, 2005, 06:37 »
For instance, I have found that when setting up rad barrier rope that may be expanded or shrunk repeatedly for storage of RAM, a knot called the tauntline knot is invaluable.  This knot will stay where you place it and yet can be slipped along the rope run easily to shorten or lenghten the distance of a boundary.  

Another good knot to know is a 'self-cinching' bow knot...this will keep your modesty garments from falling down under your PCs...

Same basic knot as you use to tie your shoes (I got it out of a knot book that recommends it for that purpose), except, with the basic knot, the process is :

1. Tie the laces together.
2. Make a loop out of one lace.
3. Wrap the other lace around the loop and tuck this lace back thru the wrap you just made.

(Look familiar?  Hard to put in words what I do without thinking...)

Anyway, the 'self-cinching' version is the same EXCEPT :

3. Wrap the other lace around the loop TWICE and tuck this lace back thru the WRAPS you just made.

Give this a try (on your shoes OR modesties) and let me know if I made the instructions clear enough to follow.



PS.  Hey SloGlo...how do I make a tautline hitch?  I used to know, but lost my book.  :/
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Re: practical hints
« Reply #28 on: Jul 09, 2005, 01:07 »
Another good knot to know is a 'self-cinching' bow knot...this will keep your modesty garments from falling down under your PCs...

PS.  Hey SloGlo...how do I make a tautline hitch?  I used to know, but lost my book.  :/

self cinching bow knot.. wotta great name for a boot knot!  that's what they called it in boy scouts, anyway.

tauntline hitch is basically two pairs of half hitches, tied opposite each other.  it creates a sliding knot that will never loosen unless untied.  the best thing to do is look it up.

http://www.realknots.com/links/T.htm

i put a second half hitch on the outer part of the knot, as it keeps everything tidy.
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Re: practical hints
« Reply #29 on: Jan 10, 2006, 03:57 »
For those who do Field Work, there is quick and easy Standard to Metric conversion.  Simply convert your feet to inches and divide by 40 and you will have meters.  Run it backwards to get feet from meters.  I know there is an error factor in here, so it shouldn't be used for large areas.  However, if you are on a site that big, go buy a metric tapemeasure.  This works excellent inside buildings especially doing rooms as you will notice that the converted metric measurements break pretty evenly on the structure such as at walls, ceilings, etc.

 


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