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Bartlett Can't Staff Duke-Energy
« on: Nov 21, 2008, 07:32 »
Bartlett has had problems staffing Duke Powers outages the last few year's or so due to low pay and competing outages with higher pay. The RP's coming in are the one's who can't get in the higher paying jobs due to poor work habits and they are killing the few good RP's there. We were 18 RP's short this outage at Oconee and most of the one's who did come in could not climb, crawl,were overweight and could not wear a respirator and were limited in where they could work and still got paid what the capable RP got.So you can imagine who did all the work. McGuire is short RP's for the next outage this spring. Duke Energy sites has turned into the last place to get in if you can't get in anywhere else. It is like the old saying, give us your tired, weary, broken down, Bartlett turns nobody down. 

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Re: Bartlett Can't Staff Duke-Energy
« Reply #1 on: Nov 21, 2008, 09:14 »
I too would like to know the meaning of your post.  I know a few techs that are currently working the Duke system, and they are outstanding technicians.   It was great to see the pay rate increase this year.  However, with Duke wanting returnees, some technicians had to wait a while for confirmation for both McGuire and Oconee.

Also, the spring outage has Catawba and Oconee, not McGuire.  So, how can any of the sites be short RPs for the spring outage, when none of them have been staffed yet?

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Re: Bartlett Can't Staff Duke-Energy
« Reply #2 on: Nov 21, 2008, 09:21 »
Staffing any job is easy. All a utility has to know is;   If you pay them well and treat them well they will come.
I have never worked a Duke plant because they have never followed the first part of the above rule.

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« Reply #3 on: Nov 21, 2008, 10:23 »
What I am trying to say is, 90% of the techs coming in ...........

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« Reply #4 on: Nov 21, 2008, 11:07 »
Thanks for clarifying but let's not lay this on Bartlett.The living wage is not there for the good techs to stay anymore and have traveled to new pastures. The ones who stayed have their reasons. With todays market I may come back in ten years to supplement my retirement. That is something I never would have thought before.Keeping a supplemental staff to work outages and travel at prevailing wages of the the trades and federal per diem is the only way I can see people coming back any time soon. Then the utilities will have a tech that is worth his weight(pun intended).They need to know they will have work for 12 months if wanted or flexible enough to offer 9 or six if that is exceptable to all parties.

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Re: Bartlett Can't Staff Duke-Energy
« Reply #5 on: Nov 21, 2008, 11:31 »
What I am trying to say is, 90% of the techs coming in ........

OK. Before you assault the character of the calorically (as in calories) challenged, what are the main factors for the Duke sites paying so low? Did the good old Southern hospitality go away? Are you mad because you are the only good technician and they don't bring any other good ones? Take a look at all the factors first before you blame it all on the heavy people.....
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Re: Bartlett Can't Staff Duke-Energy
« Reply #6 on: Nov 21, 2008, 12:38 »
I agree that everyone probably has their own agenda as to why they want to come to the Duke system.  Some people prefer working the system, while others may have wanted to come to the area for the first time, since it's closer to family members.  This was our case in point, since we just lost my father-in-law in July and my mother-in-law needs help.   At 23/85, it was a cut from other plants, but we needed to do what WE needed to do.  And for those that may not know my husband, he is neither calorically challenged, lazy, or late.   Plus, he likes the Duke system and would like to return.

I don't think it's a "Bartlett problem" in staffing Duke... it's a preference as to where the roadies want to go.

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Re: Bartlett Can't Staff Duke-Energy
« Reply #7 on: Nov 21, 2008, 01:09 »
sew.... watt are day paying at duke des daze?
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Re: Bartlett Can't Staff Duke-Energy
« Reply #8 on: Nov 21, 2008, 01:36 »
Bartlett has had problems staffing Duke Powers outages the last few year's or so due to low pay and competing outages with higher pay. The RP's coming in are the one's who can't get in the higher paying jobs due to poor work habits and they are killing the few good RP's there. We were 18 RP's short this outage at Oconee and most of the one's who did come in could not climb, crawl,were overweight and could not wear a respirator and were limited in where they could work and still got paid what the capable RP got.So you can imagine who did all the work. McGuire is short RP's for the next outage this spring. Duke Energy sites has turned into the last place to get in if you can't get in anywhere else. It is like the old saying, give us your tired, weary, broken down, Bartlett turns nobody down. 

Okay, I'll attempt to stay on topic and not piss to many people off ...

I find it hard to believe that with a $2 - $3 per hour wage increase that pay could be blamed for the shortage this outage season and perhaps the problem is more with the scheduling than money.

There are many, many techs who are currently working there who are quite capable regardless of the health issues of a few. You must remember that we are an aging work force and with age comes many draw backs.

I personally would rather work with someone who was a little slower, a little more out of shape and perhaps even a little less refined than I had someone with the attitude that you have displayed here. I cannot not imagine getting off or work after a 12.5 hr shift and reading that some s**t head had blasted me and my work habits. I can imagine that many a tech will be looking over their shoulder after this one. And many even the goods one wonder if they are working in a friendly work place?

As far as sitting around and playing games, can you tell me this... are you talking about Oconee that is located near Seneca, SC? As I understand it breaks have been cut to a bare minimum and there is no time for games much less the old routine of 3 in and 3 out.



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« Reply #9 on: Nov 21, 2008, 02:24 »
sew.... watt are day paying at duke des daze?
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« Reply #10 on: Nov 21, 2008, 05:26 »
Carmella, XXXXXXXXXXXXX, When was the last time you were in the Duke system, I bet never. I know your husband is now here at Oconee. I see him every day, but not you.As far as time being tight, XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX XXXXXXXXX, 95% of the work is done by 5% of the people. We could loose 50% of the RP's on site now and never miss them.Thats the real truth,Ask (No names)

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Re: Bartlett Can't Staff Duke-Energy
« Reply #11 on: Nov 21, 2008, 05:46 »
Just out of curiosity, what does Duke pays its house Senior RP Techs?

Also, does the COLA justify what Duke pays compared to perhaps a Cali plant or a NE plant?

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Re: Bartlett Can't Staff Duke-Energy
« Reply #12 on: Nov 21, 2008, 06:14 »
$23 and $85 !!!!!   Wow thats a lot higher than my Duke days (last one being Oconee fall 07)  I was making $20 and $85 as a 5 year tech.  Well Ive worked Oconee and Catawba, and I have to say there havent been many that were a better place to work (been to 18 other nukes)  I love the laid back southern way.  I remember them shutting down the critical path work of shielding the S/G legs because the containment elevator was out of service, the (1) 3 hour rover jumps and the "Im leaving early, its my friday".  The ONLY thing I hated about Duke (and they are not the only ones) is the 11 1/2 hours for 12. That has always boiled my blood.
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« Reply #13 on: Nov 21, 2008, 09:34 »
What run out of Bumkins?
Don't get me wrong,I loved all my years I worked at mcguire.

I just can't understand why most of the people keep going back and yet still complain about the low wages.
If they would just choose to work somewhere else for 1 outage maybe things would change and they would have to raise the wages to get you in.

As long as the people that say oohh look bluto it's my home plant I got to work it,it's my duty.
Unless your name is on the cornerstone or your mail is delivered there,it doesn't belong to you.

So just man up and work at another site and just maybe they will have to raise the wages to get you in.
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Re: Bartlett Can't Staff Duke-Energy
« Reply #14 on: Nov 21, 2008, 10:21 »
Being I'm not worth a what ever nickle.over weight at 129 lbs and aren't good enough to be called RP it will not matter what I say. I'm so sick of others judging others because of their own selfishness or maybe it's because they are just one you can't even get along with themselves.I worked for around 25 years as decon and now an 18.1. we all know no matter where you work you will find all kinds . I work Duke cause I get treated good and with respect ( which you are not showing me ). Now the way I see it if you don't like it leave.I stay here by choice I'm 46 and been to 30 different plants and if I choose to stay here don't judge me. I've seem people who has some problems out work those who can but want to sit around and bit__!!! about others. no matter where you work there will be all kinds I just hope when you get down and have problems ( we all do ) that maybe you will get judged as you have judged. If you "South whateve"r need to drop me a line please do so.I think you must be young and new to the business and I hope some day you might understand others and myself who just want to get through life and treat others as I would want to be treated
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« Reply #15 on: Nov 21, 2008, 10:39 »
Carmella, XXXXXXXXXXXXX, When was the last time you were in the Duke system, I bet never. I know your husband is now here at Oconee. I see him every day, but not you.As far as time being tight, XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX, 95% of the work is done by 5% of the people. We could loose 50% of the RP's on site now and never miss them.Thats the real truth,Ask (No names)

To begin with please note there is not an "r" in my name... as far as not having a clue I have plenty believe me. No I have never had the pleasure of working at a Duke plant, but several friends and 3 generations of my family have. Many of these workers choose to return despite the lower pay because they can work all 3 plants, its close to home and the weather is much better in the South during the winter.


As far as seeing Henry everyday and not me, have you never heard the saying..."behind every good man is an even better woman"?  ;)  Believe me after 29 years of being married and his working the biz for 27 of those, I'm pretty sure I've heard first hand most of what goes on at work. :)




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Re: Bartlett Can't Staff Duke-Energy
« Reply #16 on: Nov 21, 2008, 10:59 »
I hear you Camella. I can't believe people are so judgemental and truth be know there are ghost in their closets
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Re: Bartlett Can't Staff Duke-Energy
« Reply #17 on: Nov 21, 2008, 11:22 »
I've worked about four outages total at Oconee. I worked there because i liked the plant, the people and the work. Don't let the fact that some people are "calorie challenged" be the only judge of the work they do. i have friends i've known for decades who were top notch techs. Maybe now their backs don't work so well, or their knees ache all the time. you may be a young buck but don't discount the value of your fellow workers and their experience.

As far as "calorie challenged" techs, I'm one of them. and for all of my outages at Oconee, when it was time to work I got off of my lazy butt, squeezed into a set of 5X OREX, taped myself up, grabbed my meter and did my 3-5 hour roving jump in the BRT.

(No names) might remember me from the waste sort facility at SRS. I have never let my weight stop me from doing my work, getting jobs, being promoted, and being asked to return several times.
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Re: Bartlett Can't Staff Duke-Energy
« Reply #18 on: Nov 21, 2008, 11:31 »
then the snide question comes to mind: if all the good techs are working elsewhere, why are you at Oconee?
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Re: Bartlett Can't Staff Duke-Energy
« Reply #19 on: Nov 22, 2008, 12:06 »
First of all..that was a very uncool post.. very insulting to the people that came there to support YOUR outage. In fact..i have friends there currently and i feel bad they have to be subjected to YOUR attitude in the workplace.

also.. how often do road techs arrive at a plant to be told ...youre not a real tech..get me a house tech..OR.perhaps a better question should be ..what exactly does outage support mean to YOU as a house tech..does it mean teamwork?? i think not..apparantly you are on the "I" team and not the "WE" team..i mean scince your work standard and ethics are much higher than the "losers" you are forced to endure

you know usually when i am convinced everyone around me is a complete *ss...is about the time i realize ..ITS ME... LOL

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« Reply #20 on: Nov 22, 2008, 04:50 »
It still makes me wonder if you are going to talk about your fellow techs on a board and not sign your name. How much back stabbing are you doing to your fellow techs behind their back. Sure there are techs here that are not 100% including me but I do what they  tell me and give them 100% of what I have. After 29 years I believe I have earned the right to be a little slower and maybe not as fast as a 20 year old tech. But there is not a job here that I have not covered or could not cover. But most of all what I have learned in 29 years is all a tech really has on his side is his fellow techs and when someone like you starts bulls--t like this it does no one any good. And by the way its Camella  with no R you go get them Sis. Brad Brown

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« Reply #21 on: Nov 22, 2008, 06:41 »
(No names), You would be lost without (No names) guiding you. 18.1, more like 9 and 1/2.  Heza Bear, I remember when you left one outage early with blisters on your feet from having to walk alot on the turbine floor. (No names) is 68 and will work circles around any of you, so don"t use the age card, XXXXXXXXXXXXXX.Carmella, from the XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX

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« Reply #23 on: Nov 22, 2008, 07:22 »
I would like to know why you are being so mean spirited. 
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« Reply #24 on: Nov 22, 2008, 08:10 »
, I remember when you left one outage early with blisters on your feet from having to walk alot on the turbine floor.XXXXXXX is 68 and will work circles around any of you, so don"t use the age card, just state you are lazy.Carmella, from XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX XXXXXXXXXXXXX

kackalackee, wow! Glad you brought this up, yep Heza Bear sure did leave an outage early with blisters on his feet... they landed him in the local hospital and nearly cost him his life. Did you know this? Were you one of the hundreds who signed the get well card or were you sulking in the corner cause you had to pick up the slack for someone who have worked themselves to the bone? Get your facts straight before you start slinging mud.

I believe he is doing a fine job seeing it has yet to be a year since he was rushed to Greenville for open heart surgery or did you forget that too? Brad has been working in this business since he was 18 when he traveled to CA to begin his first job and has never looked back. While he may be a little slower and a little broken in places he is still one damn good tech.

As far as the comments aimed at me... what a joke. I would like to inform you that I don't have time to hold a paying job, between the volunteer work that I do in my community, on the  national level and right here at nukeworker; the trips biweekly to Dorie's therapy, the biweekly trips to stay with Henry on the road, etc, etc I stay pretty dang busy.

Sounds to me like you need a little of what Henry and I have... a warm, honest, loving marriage between two people who respect each other and support each other in all aspects of their relationship... believe me being a road tech wife for the past 27 years has been one hell of a ride and I have gone way beyond my duty in supporting and caring for my husband. But don't take my word ask him.

Do yourself a favor the next time you want to bitch or unload about problems at work try sharing your thoughts with your better half or your priest but if you must air them in public try not to be so abrasive to your coworkers.  :)

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Re: Bartlett Can't Staff Duke-Energy
« Reply #25 on: Nov 22, 2008, 11:58 »
Okay, time for a deep breath.

Let's clear the air a little.

First, there are all kinds of people who decide at some point to become HP techs.  Some are uneducated, but hard workers.  Some are ambitious.  some are content with what they have.  Some are young and impressionable.  Some are old and set in their ways.

Second, to arrive at the answer, one must ask the question.  So, if you are not happy with the quality of work coming from your fellow techs, ask yourself what you can do to get better than what you are getting.

Third, (this one is going to make some people unhappy) there ARE some lazy, stupid, stubborn, untrained, untrainable, and totally useless HP techs out there.  If you are reading this, you may or may not be one of them.

If you are a house tech, and the roadies are not performing to the level you need them to, you need to get that info to your management.  Let them know.  They will in turn provide the necessary feedback to the vendor company who supplied these unsatisfactory people.  They will do what they have to do, or they will lose business.

If you are a roadie, and your co-workers are letting you down, you do your work the best way you can.  You put out your best effort, and forget about what everyone else is doing.  If you can't take that (because you don't have to) then quit and do something else.  Lots of us have done that.  Lots of us got disgusted with the fact that we are working while someone else is slacking for the same pay.  We just left.  You can to.

Having "paid your dues" in this business counts for nothing unless you are going to keep up your end.
The fact that you may have been a hard-working, super smart, master of the craft at one point in time does not give you the right to drag your ass now.  If you are earning the same pay, you need to be doing the same work at the same level of competency as everyone else - regardless of what you used to do.  Your outstanding performance of the past has earned you the right to come out and take on the job of the present.  But, today's paycheck is for today's work - not a reward for yesterday's work.  You already got paid for that.  What are you going to do today?

Leaders need to take the lead.  Set the example for the newer techs that competent, motivated, energetic techs are their role models -NOT the break-room commandos.  This is not a hard job.  It is not hard to get good at it.

If you can cover the job, then cover the job.  If you can't, then learn how to do it.  If you are physically unable to do the work, then don't burden your crew by leaving it all for them.  Find a job that you can do and leave the one that you can't for someone else.  Everyone is asked at the time of assignment if they are physically able to do the work.  If you said yes to that question, then don't show up with a bunch of excuses.  The job requires the ability to climb ladders, enter confined spaces, work in high heat areas, wear respirators and plastic suits.  You need to be able to do those things.  If you can't, you are a burden to those who can.  Get off their crew and get on a job you can actually get done without depending on everyone else to do all the hard part.
Likewise, if you are weak in math, learn the math.  If you don't understand the instruments, or the systems, or the regulations; you are not a senior tech.  PERIOD.  Learn that stuff or stop calling yourself qualified.

If your motto is "never sweat on their time, never s**t on your time" CHECK YOURSELF!!!!  If you know someone like that, do not emulate him.  Don't let the new techs coming in model themselves after that attitude.  Teach one thing to someone every single day that you are at work - no matter who you are.  LEARN at least one new thing every single day you are at work - regardless of how long you have been doing the job.

If you are showing up and bringing the best you have to give every day, don't get offended by what others are saying - because it doesn't apply to you.  If these comments are making you angry, understand that it is frustrating for some people to work with the incomptent, the lazy, the lame, and the untrained for the same poor pay and bad treatment that they are getting.  Maybe you just got used to it, but not everyone can.  If you are getting injured and sick from the job (like blisters on your feet from too much walking) you really ought to wonder why nobody was willing to help you out and keep that from happening.  This job shouldn't require anyone to get bruised, blistered, sick, or even sweaty a lot of the time.  If you are getting beat up, and you are soaked every day - and everyone else isn't - speak up and get them off their asses to help out.  Don't insult them; teach them.

There is no reason for anyone to get offensive or defensive here.  RadBastard is totally right.  If the plant, the coworkers, and the pay all suck, then why did you go there?  If you go again, you have only yourself to blame.
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Re: Bartlett Can't Staff Duke-Energy
« Reply #26 on: Nov 22, 2008, 12:42 »
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$23/$85
stownsend,  tanks.  aye thaught that wuz watt wuz meant, butt eye fingered eyed better axe befour i made a wrong assumpshun.  using dat data assa template, it wood a peer duke ain't changed nuttin in 30 yeers.  when eye chatted wit dem bout house, dey wuz putting me at less dan watt eye wood pull in diem for a year, let alone wages.  when i expressed dismay, day wuz all about telling me da low costa living their.  aye reminded them that there area was growing 'n hadda higher c.o.l. than my home town, witch was in da middle offa major recession (15-17% unemployement).  day shut up 'n whent aweigh.
thems folk gotta relize dat when yer talking too contractors, it's all about da money.
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« Reply #27 on: Nov 22, 2008, 12:46 »
beercourt....won moor time, karam two yinz.  message targit acheeved.  eye mean dat inna good way.   ;)
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Re: Bartlett Can't Staff Duke-Energy
« Reply #28 on: Nov 22, 2008, 12:56 »
... believe me being a road tech wife for the past 27 years has been one hell of a ride and I have gone way beyond my duty in supporting and caring for my husband. But don't take my word ask him.



enny person married two a rhode nuke worker has a full time job, and that is it.  seeing as how dis field is littered wit divorces, a marriage of dat durashun kneads special consideration. unfourtunately, dat consideration ain't in da form of compensation, ala cash.  butt, it is a fine 'n noble calling dat few can weather.  karma two yinz.
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Re: Bartlett Can't Staff Duke-Energy
« Reply #29 on: Nov 22, 2008, 02:44 »
enny person married two a rhode nuke worker has a full time job, and that is it.  seeing as how dis field is littered wit divorces, a marriage of dat durashun kneads special consideration. unfourtunately, dat consideration ain't in da form of compensation, ala cash.  butt, it is a fine 'n noble calling dat few can weather.  karma two yinz.

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Re: Bartlett Can't Staff Duke-Energy
« Reply #30 on: Nov 22, 2008, 05:59 »
enny person married two a rhode nuke worker has a full time job, and that is it.  seeing as how dis field is littered wit divorces, a marriage of dat durashun kneads special consideration. unfourtunately, dat consideration ain't in da form of compensation, ala cash.  butt, it is a fine 'n noble calling dat few can weather.  karma two yinz.


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« Reply #31 on: Nov 22, 2008, 08:10 »
Beercourt,
Thanks for agreeing with me.
Most techs give me hell for what I just said about their home????? plant????
Salem/hopecreek is my home plant and i have not been back there since 1991
No DIEM FOR ONE THING,I don't have to work there just cause im 20 miles away.
Even though I 'm sure ive scribbled my name on a wall or 2 in salem over the years,so I guess it kinda belongs to me.

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« Reply #32 on: Nov 22, 2008, 08:29 »
  You can't miss me - I'm tall, fat, incredibly good-looking and have a Scottish accent.  (3 out of 4 of those are true.)


So you are actually Shrek ? ;)

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« Reply #33 on: Nov 22, 2008, 10:15 »
Such and angry and unprofessional post, I hate that it is getting any attention at all. So I'll chime in anyway...I'm unemployed as of last week and I am bored...

The idea that it is Bartlett's fault for staffing with underachieving technicians is ridiculous. There are plenty of lazy or incapable techs out there, and the rule of a small percentage carrying the weight of a large percentage is pretty accurate. It is pretty accurate in other industries as well, we are not that unique where this is concerned.

With the average age above 50 in our field it kinda compounds the problem with some folks being unable to physically do some of the things required, that doesn't necessarily mean these people are lazy and I think it is unfair to lump them into the same group. Just like it is unfair to blame Bartlett for an aging workforce that is plagued with the problems that would be expected by that. It is a bit frustrating when a physically able person gets the brunt of the jobs because they are simply the most physically able. However, I have run into plenty of techs that would love to be able to do some of those jobs but just can't and they contribute in other ways, that is perfectly fine with me, we will all get older and I hope to have that kind of respect if it is justified. It is exponentially more frustrating when you get the brunt of the work because you are more willing than your less than average peers who look the other way or can not be found when jobs come up. They are different groups.

The lazy techs could be managed better by site Bartlett management and the Home office, but that is only part of the equation. We have been a shrinking group for many years and that enables the laziest of us to survive purely on the fact that Bartlett needs to supply techs and they have only a small pool to supply from. There hasn't been any great inspiration for new people to enter the RP field in quite some time and that has helped cause the average age to increase and the lazy to stay because they are relatively safe due to numbers.

So...Do your job as best you can, forget about the lazy ones because in the end you will not be judged on their performance, only your own. Know the difference between older peers that are willing to contribute but unable to do some of the things they used to and the ones that think they have earned the right to do nothing for the same pay, they are different. One is worthy of respect and should be in a job where they can contribute to the effort and the other should just be exposed. Most of the utility management that I know can see the difference. Most importantly...if you just can't deal with any of this, quit. Unfortunately, you will probably find some of the same in your next industry of choice.

With all of that said south kackalackee , stop getting on here and screeming about how incompetent all of your contractor peers are. There are ways of discussing some of these problems on these threads without sounding like an infant, you haven't found any of them. I too have felt some of your frustrations (and they are founded to some degree) but you have made a fool of yourself with the way you argue your points.
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« Reply #34 on: Nov 23, 2008, 06:31 »
So you are actually Shrek ? ;)

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« Reply #35 on: Nov 23, 2008, 08:03 »
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Re: Bartlett Can't Staff Duke-Energy
« Reply #36 on: Nov 23, 2008, 12:54 »
I don't know why this person wants everyone to ask me anything. I don't know what you are talking about myself and people are already wanting to know what I know, and what I am saying to you Kackalackee. Please leave me out of your conversation. Thanks Henry

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« Reply #37 on: Nov 23, 2008, 04:24 »
I think Henry's name was only thrown in as a response to Carn Carm Camella's post
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Re: Bartlett Can't Staff Duke-Energy
« Reply #38 on: Nov 23, 2008, 08:39 »
South Kackalackee!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I have a lot of things I would like to say but being that I don't want to stoop to your level I'm going to say a few things and then I'm done with this and you also!!!!!!!!!!! I agree with one thing you said (No names) is a good person and one he__!! of a worker.I see it like this, if you go to any other plant and line up 10 people I will bet you there will be at least 1/2 of them are either over weight or has other issues but that is life. I would much rather work with them then someone like you that ( from your post ) I gather you must be one that would rather run from work then to it. I never claimed to be a know it all or better then the next person unlike you. I've got a lot to learn and as far as (No names) goes,I've learned a lot from him and have the up most respect for him. (No names)  is a hel__ of person and don't come after me through him ( leave him out he has been through enough ) come to me. I feel you know me and where I'm at so maybe you might just need to discuss this in private instead in public. I feel like (No names)  said it best!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I think you just need to look in your own closet instead of others and quit slamming you fellow worker cause you will need him or a friend someday and where will they be. I have over the years stepped on some toes and I regret that so much it is hard to right a wrong, but you need to learn from a wrong.I would much rather work with a (No names) ( being you had to slam him ) and even people with weight or other issues then someone that is so full of it like you. I'm done with this topic cause unlike you I do have better things to do then to set around and play child games. I hope some day you wake up and realize society these days, not all are as perfect as you.I want know why you started out with Bartlett can't staff when all you wanted to do was slam your co-worker. Don't bite the hand that feeds you.!!!

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Re: Bartlett Can't Staff Duke-Energy
« Reply #39 on: Nov 23, 2008, 09:30 »
(No names)  it's all small stuff.. Hey I remeber (No names) at DC.Cook,,, dude put everything behind you...
But I bet I could get a few to back me up on kackaslaclie is a fool...Come on (No names) you busted your ass and I know it..

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Re: Bartlett Can't Staff Duke-Energy
« Reply #40 on: Nov 23, 2008, 09:45 »
I am Adam Carrara and I DO WORK...

That is all :)

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« Reply #41 on: Nov 23, 2008, 11:21 »
South Caca-lackey

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First off, Oconee was fully staffed and not 18 tech short.

Second, there is no McGuire spring outage next year and Bartlett has just started staffing Catawba so how can they be short already?
 
Third, XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX

As for the pay; did you not also agree to $23/hour and $85/day too?  Duke may not be the best paying utility, but the COLA is darn low and they really do treat you well.  I paid almost $400/week at Ginna this spring and $410/week this fall at Peach for motel rooms, yet at Oconee I'm paying $300 a MONTH for a studio apartment.

BTW if you think Oconee is 50% overstaffed (wait I thought you claimed we were 18 short?) THE LEAVE and don't let the door hit you in the...rear on the way out.

More seriously, it IS getting near the end of the outage.  The Alloy 600 project is wrapping up and (No names) is looking for volunteers for immediate layoffs.  Thats (No Names), Extension xxxx or xxx-xxxx from off-site.  I'm sure one of your co-workers in the Turbine building will more than happy to dial the number for you and personally help you leave the the site post haste.

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(No names) did leave Oconee once for severe blisters but at the let that proved he was up walking around the Turbine deck and not sitting on his rear posting BS to Nukeworker.
Moreover, that was just a symptom of a more serious medical condition and not a sign of being lazy or overweight.  Right now (No names) works the Equip hatch, if you you think that is an easy or make-work job, come to nights and take it. I'm sure (No names) would rather stay inside working somewhere else and not most of the night outside in the 30 degree or less weather.

BTW how dare you criticize anyone's wife?  If I were (No names)....

The only statement you made I agree with is the one about about 90% of the techs being not worth a plug nickle and by inferance that YOU are among the other 10%.
90% of the techs at Oconee right now a worth 1000x more then a plug nickle while there are always a few who spend most of their time sitting on their rears, bitching about the amount of work they don't do and finding time to post to Nukeworker on company time using an Duke computer.

Also I was at one time one of those overweight techs, I still worked just as hard then as I do now.  I admit I am more productive in the Reactor Building then I was on the Turbine, but back then I also had a job the could only be done by a senior RP when I worked the Turbine so how did the fact I was overweight change that?

Lastly there is a rumor that YOU may have posted these comments just to stir up the pot and you really don't mean most of them and did this for the fun of it. I hope this is not true. XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX

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Re: Bartlett Can't Staff Duke-Energy
« Reply #42 on: Nov 24, 2008, 02:39 »
<-------- is a fat RP who works at Duke. Yet manages to climb ladders and crawl. But I choose to work at Duke because I want to!----- not because I have to. And please show me a RP tech who hasn't had a lazy day. Or even a person period who hasn't????? And I know at least three Rp's who were told they couldn't come to Oconee this outage because they were staffed? So how are we 18 short?
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« Reply #43 on: Nov 24, 2008, 08:55 »
BC,
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« Reply #44 on: Nov 24, 2008, 09:52 »
There have been a bunch of Techs put in their time at Duke and get nothing out of it because of the hiring process. The reason for all of these bad feelings towards Duke is because they don't think they have to pay a top wage because they have 7 units and work for most of the year. There are some good guys at ONS and then there are some real jacklegs. If you leave the Core you can pretty much work year round as a ring tech with per deim so the advantage of being in the Core is what??? Case in point is the (No names) he is one of the special boys there at Duke, goes from site to site and off when he wants. Look at (No names)  from Mcguire, he quit and look at him now making more money and living the great American Dream. The List goes on i.e. (No names), (No names), (No names), (No names), (No names), ask any of those guys what they think. So what if some of the techs at ONS are fat and lazy you knew that going in. You have 2 choices suck up and get a good job or be fat and lazy and get what's left.

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« Reply #45 on: Nov 24, 2008, 03:30 »
Is this the "You might be a Redneck if" thread?

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« Reply #46 on: Nov 24, 2008, 03:56 »
I have been at Duke 29 yrs and this is the worst crew I have seen. Road RP's are like spongeBob squarepants, No backbone. Look at the last strike attempt, You cannot get 2 road techs to stick togeather for nothing.Living payday to payday. You are no more then glorified laundry techs who was given the NEU answers because real RP'S are getting out. When you take the NEU on computer next time you will too. Back to decon you go.

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« Reply #47 on: Nov 24, 2008, 04:14 »
still haven't seen a name
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« Reply #48 on: Nov 24, 2008, 04:47 »
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Re: Bartlett Can't Staff Duke-Energy
« Reply #49 on: Nov 24, 2008, 04:56 »
I have been at Duke 29 yrs and this is the worst crew I have seen. Road RP's are like spongeBob squarepants, No backbone. Look at the last strike attempt, You cannot get 2 road techs to stick togeather for nothing.Living payday to payday. You are no more then glorified laundry techs who was given the NEU answers because real RP'S are getting out. When you take the NEU on computer next time you will too. Back to decon you go.

You're obviously someone who thinks they're funny.  You're not.

Go on, tell us a joke and redeem yourself, coz at the moment, you just look like a XXXXXXXX.



As for you, (No names) ... lifting my kilt and showing you the goods might just do it.  I've seen your type before - you'll get all giddy and fall in love with me, forgetting why you were mad in the first place.  You Yankees are all the same... that's how I ended up marrying one!  ;)

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« Reply #50 on: Nov 24, 2008, 05:07 »
You're obviously someone who thinks they're funny.  You're not.

Go on, tell us a joke and redeem yourself, coz at the moment, you just look like a XXXXXXXXXXXX.



As for you, John/Adam Carrara... lifting my kilt and showing you the goods might just do it.  I've seen your type before - you'll get all giddy and fall in love with me, forgetting why you were mad in the first place.  You Yankees are all the same... that's how I ended up marrying one!  ;)

 :) Just a friendly tip... here in America Yankees were born above the Mason-Dixon line, ie the North. People born in the South might take objection to being called Yankees.  ;)
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« Reply #51 on: Nov 24, 2008, 05:31 »
:) Just a friendly tip... here in America Yankees were born above the Mason-Dixon line, ie the North. People born in the South might take objection to being called Yankees.  ;)

I know - both him and my wife are one.  I did my research. ;)
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« Reply #52 on: Nov 24, 2008, 05:53 »
We currently interfupt our regular scheduled program of Jerry Springer for this personal announcement...

hey just wanted to give a shout out to my hubby who is busy working his butt off at Oconee... thanks H.B. for 29 wonderful years and for the beautiful flowers that just arrived at the door. I love you!

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« Reply #54 on: Nov 25, 2008, 08:32 »
:) Just a friendly tip... here in America Yankees were born above the Mason-Dixon line, ie the North. People born in the South might take objection to being called Yankees.  ;)
Or sterotyped Yankees.It's just something about the name I don't like. If you said you're all Redsox Nation I'd tend to agree more.

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« Reply #55 on: Nov 25, 2008, 08:43 »
Or sterotyped Yankees.It's just something about the name I don't like. If you said you're all Redsox Nation I'd tend to agree more.

And/or Patriots Nation.  Remeber ----, (Oops, no names), they have the Panthers.
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« Reply #56 on: Nov 25, 2008, 09:11 »
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« Reply #57 on: Nov 25, 2008, 09:34 »
Or sterotyped Yankees.It's just something about the name I don't like. If you said you're all Redsox Nation I'd tend to agree more.

Wow we must really be entering a p.c. world; now I can't call a Yankee a Yankee without offending anyone?   ;)  Geeze, I come from a long line of Yankees (who migrated south in 1904 or so) and am proud of it and btw I love the North especially Maine, PA and CT.  :)

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Re: Bartlett Can't Staff Duke-Energy
« Reply #58 on: Nov 25, 2008, 09:56 »
Kacalakee, I understand your frustration and feel your pain.
http://www.nukeworker.com/forum/index.php/topic,13386.msg78618.html#msg78618

It's a fairly simple matter to determine that the average day for a Containment rover involves 1 - 3 or (maybe) 4 hr shot in the can, with minimal expectation that a survey will be adequately documented afterwards. Some actually do, bless their hearts, but those who don't aren't accountable in any way.

Having said that, I don't see any reason to personalize any of this. Personal attacks make us all look stupid, and will (probably) lead to another utility-wide ban for abuse of the forums. Some of us actually use this place for informal benchmarking as well as keeping up with friends. Folks just need to chill.
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« Reply #59 on: Nov 25, 2008, 10:10 »
Wow we must really be entering a p.c. world; now I can't call a Yankee a Yankee without offending anyone?   ;)  Geeze, I come from a long line of Yankees (who migrated south in 1904 or so) and am proud of it and btw I love the North especially Maine, PA and CT.  :)

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Re: Bartlett Can't Staff Duke-Energy
« Reply #60 on: Nov 25, 2008, 11:52 »
:) Just a friendly tip... here in America Yankees were born above the Mason-Dixon line, ie the North. People born in the South might take objection to being called Yankees.  ;)

Sorry Camella, but in the ENTIRE WORLD, Yankee means American.  It's just that you were raised in part of the world that at one time forgot that you all were Americans too.  But we all love you anyway - even though you will never admit that you are a Yankee too.

I just need to interject one more thought here that actually has SOMETHING to do with staffing at Duke Power.

The contention that there are 18 slots open, and the outage is understaffed, and the fact that Bartlett will tell certain techs that there is no opening for them at that outage, are not mutually exclusive.

As long as there have been outages, the staffing companies have used "already staffed" as a way of steering the caller away from one job and onto another.  There is also the practice of revising staffing numbers to reflect the actual number of employees who are going to show up for the job.  A site can request 50 techs and change that to 40 once they realize that they can only get 40.  So, an outage can be both short-handed and fully staffed at the same time.

So, the fact that the office is calling a job staffed does not prove that the job isn't 18 techs short.

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« Reply #61 on: Nov 25, 2008, 11:53 »
that would make you a d*** yankee

yeah, but only half! It's funny my grandfather who was 8 or 9 when he came down from Wisconsin used to talk about the snow birds and D*** Yankees all the time, LOL; his daughter my mom was so proud of being a true Floridan she used to tell us she was born on a frosty morning in Dixie. Go figure.

Back on topic now, I am glad that my husband works the Duke outages, sure the pay may be lower at times but its close enough to home that we both can travel back and forth which has become a real bonus since we now have a grand-daughter to spend time with and another on the way!
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« Reply #62 on: Nov 25, 2008, 12:11 »
This thread has reminded me why I don't bother using the forum.

Freedom of speech over here in Yankeeland? (Just for you, Camella. ;))  Apparently it's non-existent on the interweb... at least at THIS particular URL!

I'm gonna slip back into anonymity, as apparently it's ok to fabricate stories about people from atop a high-horse, but beware if you dare try to defend those being shot at.  Not my idea of a fair, balanced forum, hosted within the "most free and powerful country in the World" but there ya go... I guess "CHANGE" really IS ahappenin'!

Oh, and for the record, this is not me "arguing with any moderators"... I'm just saying!!
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Re: Bartlett Can't Staff Duke-Energy
« Reply #63 on: Nov 25, 2008, 12:52 »
Wow we must really be entering a p.c. world; now I can't call a Yankee a Yankee without offending anyone?   ;)  Geeze, I come from a long line of Yankees (who migrated south in 1904 or so) and am proud of it and btw I love the North especially Maine, PA and CT.  :)
Sorry Camella if my sense of humor didn't come through.I was referring to the NY Yankees as I'm a die hard Redsox fan and I've been trying to convert Marssim from his evil empire ways.

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Re: Bartlett Can't Staff Duke-Energy
« Reply #64 on: Nov 25, 2008, 01:07 »
This thread has reminded me why I don't bother using the forum.

Freedom of speech over here in Yankeeland? (Just for you, Camella. ;))  Apparently it's non-existent on the interweb... at least at THIS particular URL!

Hey Fatmalky
I'm sorry if it got personnel for you but we all understand who started this thread and I think the majority of posts reflect what we think of his comments.Being an open forum and knowing that people have a tendency to get upset and post libelous remarks, the moderators had to step in for the good of all of us.Everybody (Management included) reads these posts and that is not where we want them to get the wrong impression of this site.Send a PM to the one who has fired you up.Thanks.

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Re: Bartlett Can't Staff Duke-Energy
« Reply #65 on: Nov 25, 2008, 01:39 »
working his butt off???? This must be a different H.B.?
« Last Edit: Nov 25, 2008, 03:17 by IRMWORM »

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Re: Bartlett Can't Staff Duke-Energy
« Reply #66 on: Nov 25, 2008, 01:49 »
Hey Henry,
I still have a pocket full of your $ from liars poker at VC....hehehehehe!
« Last Edit: Nov 25, 2008, 03:18 by IRMWORM »

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Re: Bartlett Can't Staff Duke-Energy
« Reply #67 on: Nov 25, 2008, 02:41 »
Oh I see how some can post and not get his kicked off, but I put in a remark and it gets booted... I got it now... And I agree 100% with the moderators ;)








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Re: Bartlett Can't Staff Duke-Energy
« Reply #68 on: Nov 25, 2008, 04:47 »
I like the flame warrior stuff. as for caps who cares . where is my old buddy Weegee at least we had good fun back in the 90s what the hurry go to surry.
by the way everyone have a nice Turkey Day at least I will not be in reactor building. or a nasty coal plant .,,,
and MERRY XMASS!
« Last Edit: Nov 25, 2008, 04:54 by duke99301 »

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Re: Bartlett Can't Staff Duke-Energy
« Reply #69 on: Nov 25, 2008, 06:19 »
Sorry Camella if my sense of humor didn't come through.I was referring to the NY Yankees as I'm a die hard Redsox fan and I've been trying to convert Marssim from his evil empire ways.

so sorry, I didn't even "catch" the reference...

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Re: Bartlett Can't Staff Duke-Energy
« Reply #70 on: Nov 25, 2008, 06:32 »
Hey Fatmalky
I'm sorry if it got personnel for you but we all understand who started this thread and I think the majority of posts reflect what we think of his comments.Being an open forum and knowing that people have a tendency to get upset and post libelous remarks, the moderators had to step in for the good of all of us.Everybody (Management included) reads these posts and that is not where we want them to get the wrong impression of this site.Send a PM to the one who has fired you up.Thanks.



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Re: Bartlett Can't Staff Duke-Energy
« Reply #71 on: Nov 25, 2008, 07:03 »
I see now that we are all getting right with the uppers in Nukeworker I would think that Renhack would also need to get in line also with his Mgmt people. As of tonight I found out that it is not leagal to use a racing org's name in your user name without the written consent of that said Org. This being said I know that this reply will not be here long so read it quickly and save to a word document for further reading on down the line. I aggree with most of the stuff that has been posted on here and when somepeoples toes start getting stepped on alot of the post on here get lost/deleted. Is this fair well I don't know that but I do know that the fair is in Sept and they have small animals that you can pet and feed (that was a joke) so don't get offended. I have alot of friends that work for Duke and i feel their pain but it is not a life sentance you can get out if you really want. As for some of the post on here most of them need to "get a life" (a quote from the current coach of a major university in the big 10). Most of you take all of this as fun or funny but I have feelings and would appricate it if you would be more civil in your words. Thanks for keeping it real... People People can't we all just get along? Thanks J.B. :-X

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« Reply #72 on: Nov 25, 2008, 07:12 »
Duke is a unique animal in the world of RP. They got by,for years paying the lowest in the nation. Let's see as Bob Dylan put it:....  the times they are a changin. I spent the better part of the 90's in the system and made a lot of great friends. Bartlett is just starting to see the shortage in the RP world. Like I told a supervisor at Duke I was a road tech when I landed there and I left, went back on the road.

I have not been back to the system in 5 years :o If you think it's bad now wait another 5 years when the next generation plants come on line. The average age tech in the field is around 55 ;) In 5 years how many access control tech will we need ? Before you jump all over me I have worked side by side with some very good 60 plus techs that get the job done. ;D

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Re: Bartlett Can't Staff Duke-Energy
« Reply #73 on: Nov 25, 2008, 07:41 »
Rick I worked there myself, but not since 1990.. even back then the pay was low but the quality of work enviroment was great..Only reason I never returned was D.C.Cook and a gentleman named Pat Hoppe.. Since Cook gave us the shun,, I just float around,,lol It wasn't Pats fault..Now that Pat is back at Cook I bet he would love to have what he had back then, we had a kick ass crew, but then again we had a dedicated RP crew too..

But back on subject.. Catawba was a fun place to work,, and I've always told people it's a great place to work the people are freindly,, I'll always miss my ole catfish eaten buddy Jim Taylor,, Everybody lost a good buddy when Jim lost his life.. Gods Speed buddy

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Re: Bartlett Can't Staff Duke-Energy
« Reply #74 on: Nov 25, 2008, 08:26 »
First, this is just business, not marriage, friendship or even our personal lives.  The business is simple; they offer you money to do a job and you say “yes” or “no”.   It’s irrational for me to complain about pay when I agreed to it.   Second, if I agree to take your (the employer) money, I do the job you ask of me.  If for some reason I can’t or won’t to the job you ask of me, I’ll take my leave and move on.  I won’t rant and rave about how unfair it is.  Third, I do the job they ask of me.  It doesn’t matter if that means sitting in the break room all day or pulling multiple jumps in respirator and plastics.  My time is theirs.  It’s up to them to use me or not.  Fourth, what other techs do has nothing to do with me.  I do the work in front of me, no more and no less.  Lastly, I’m here to trade my time for money. I try to be civil but I don’t go out of my way to make you like or dislike me.  If you don’t like me that’s your issue not mine; whether you like me has nothing to do with how much I make.  That doesn’t mean I’ll allow someone to be personally offensive with me.  I won’t tolerate that and I’ll do what ever is appropriate to back you down. 

I understand some people are social creatures, others are intense and almost anal about everything; still others are laid back expending just the minimum energy to get the things done.   It’s their life, not mine and I’m happy they found a way to make it work for them.  It’s called individuality.  It works especially when you extend others the same freedom that you expect for yourself.  Mature adults can easily stand in the presence of someone they disagree with and not be intimidated.  The bottom line is, after all is said and done, IT’S JUST BUSINESS.

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Re: Bartlett Can't Staff Duke-Energy
« Reply #75 on: Nov 25, 2008, 08:39 »
If they start training Monkeys to do these jobs all of you guys will be out of work... As for some of you that do know what you are doing you should be teaching the JRs so they can become good SRs not career JRs. Most of the JRs have become lifelong JRs and that is nobodies fault but their leadership. Everybody knows that an RP is just a glorified babysitter and you all act like you are better than us. That is why I went to decon where the real men are... RP is a dying breed and all of you whiners are in for a rude awakening. You guys should be kissing the feet of (No names) and be thankful that they let you keep your jobs. (No names) is the real supervisor of BNI at Duke and is the only one with the real sense it takes to perform an outage. If it wasn't for (No names) a bunch of you all would still be in the Aux Bldg riding around on your Mops... If you don't like it at Duke Leave it is not a tough decision... Just my 2 cents worth

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This guy has it figured out he has the knowledge and foresight to help us move in the right direction and as he stated in his closing










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Re: Bartlett Can't Staff Duke-Energy
« Reply #76 on: Nov 25, 2008, 09:00 »
This guy has it figured out he has the knowledge and foresight to help us move in the right direction and as he stated in his closing


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 :) Thinly veiled civility I can live with that.  :)

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Re: Bartlett Can't Staff Duke-Energy
« Reply #77 on: Nov 25, 2008, 09:10 »
Finally a voice of reason on this site I give you + Karma... You the "person" to be politically correct (as not to be banned or deleted from this thread).

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Re: Bartlett Can't Staff Duke-Energy
« Reply #78 on: Nov 25, 2008, 09:13 »
i am sorry i forgot the closing statement so here it is...









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Re: Bartlett Can't Staff Duke-Energy
« Reply #79 on: Nov 25, 2008, 09:36 »
 ;DGreat!!!!! Remember Kids Work to Live!!!!! >:( Not Live To Work!!!!!! :'(


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Re: Bartlett Can't Staff Duke-Energy
« Reply #80 on: Nov 25, 2008, 09:53 »
Well I know it will break your hearts but the big boss has sent me into the Bldg so I won't be posting anything on the site for a liitle while. Mopjockey you are killin me.. "VY Guys" (I assume that is both of your identies) you are my hero and to all I will talk to you tomorrow. If not call me in the morning and we will go to the Tiki Hut... Over and out JB... PS Toad think about Atkins...






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Re: Bartlett Can't Staff Duke-Energy
« Reply #81 on: Nov 25, 2008, 10:03 »
Jim Taylor at catawba was top shelf this industry can't afford to keep loosing folks.. Jim is what Pat Hoppe is at Cook....Pat Jim knew how to do the right things,, I'll miss him forever as a friend and boss

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Re: Bartlett Can't Staff Duke-Energy
« Reply #82 on: Nov 26, 2008, 12:11 »
is this the original wrecked_edsel and mopjockey? your posts get deleted more than vermontgeys phone numbers ;)...hope the mods are getting paid double time on this thread

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Re: Bartlett Can't Staff Duke-Energy
« Reply #83 on: Nov 26, 2008, 12:19 »
now i'm waiting on cain to show up at my door and kill me

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Re: Bartlett Can't Staff Duke-Energy
« Reply #84 on: Nov 26, 2008, 12:30 »
i know right...where's hooker when ya need him

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Re: Bartlett Can't Staff Duke-Energy
« Reply #85 on: Nov 26, 2008, 12:32 »
Nah... All in good fun.
Can't take this stuff too seriously..
no doubt...what's next? a brawl at Big Johns???

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Re: Bartlett Can't Staff Duke-Energy
« Reply #86 on: Nov 26, 2008, 12:37 »
Anyone ever hear from HoseA or HoseB? Where did those two go?
big bird and japetto?

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Re: Bartlett Can't Staff Duke-Energy
« Reply #87 on: Nov 26, 2008, 12:41 »
hey vermontguy, tell stewart to hit the gym...his arm is looking skinny in your profile pic

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« Reply #88 on: Nov 26, 2008, 11:02 »
It seems that this topic has run it's course, and then some.  I don't see how the post quoted below has anything to do with the original posting.

I have locked the topic.  If you would like to tqalk about something, please feel free to start another thread.  I have also moved this to the Oconee section, and this had nothing to do with Bartlett, and everything to do with Oconee.

hey vermontguy, tell stewart to hit the gym...his arm is looking skinny in your profile pic

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Re: Bartlett Can't Staff Duke-Energy
« Reply #89 on: Nov 26, 2008, 04:30 »
I don't understand why my post get deleted allthetime!! Yeah the mods have been working double time on this one. But not like back in 2004.

Done with fire fighting the flames are out, I've just done a little smoke damage cleanup with posts I brutalized beyond redemption. Sorry if I was a little indiscriminate but you get what you pay for and I'm free.  ;) If you like a little more aggressive discussions I would recommend PolySci but bring a thick skin (provided you are a Gold Member of course 8) ) you will need it there.
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Re: Bartlett Can't Staff Duke-Energy
« Reply #90 on: Nov 26, 2008, 05:31 »
If you like a little more aggressive discussions I would recommend PolySci but bring a thick skin (provided you are a Gold Member of course 8) ) you will need it there.

Also, you can have flame wars like this in the "Bathroom Wall" section, another Gold Member area.

 


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