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How is/was your time on your Ship(s)/Boat(s)?  (Scale of 1-5 with 5 being the best)

(1)  I quit (or am/was planning to...).
20 (27.4%)
(2)  I hate(d) it, but I'm gonna stick it out.
13 (17.8%)
(3)  Extremely OK.  Got to see some ports and learn some stuff.
23 (31.5%)
(4)  Great people, Great job.  I could/did make a career of this.
15 (20.5%)
(5)  MCPON/CNO/NAVSEA 08 or Bust!  I'm pullin' a Rickover (he did 63 years active duty)!
2 (2.7%)

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Rate your fleet Experience!
« on: Jan 31, 2009, 11:26 »
Rate yer fleet experience!  You can change your vote if you change your mind. 

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« Reply #1 on: Jan 31, 2009, 11:32 »
I actually aspire to be NAVSEA 08, not CNO    8)
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« Reply #2 on: Jan 31, 2009, 12:15 »
I actually aspire to be NAVSEA 08, not CNO    8)

Poll options corrected, sir.

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« Reply #3 on: Jan 31, 2009, 12:27 »
For some of the us with a little more history behind us "It was better than Vietnam" would be the choice.

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« Reply #4 on: Jan 31, 2009, 01:11 »
Life on a carrier: the most miserable experience of my entire life. Bar none. Then again, I never got sea sick.

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« Reply #5 on: Jan 31, 2009, 01:37 »
Life on a carrier: the most miserable experience of my entire life. Bar none. Then again, I never got sea sick.

I really hope you're not talking about an A4W carrier...  If you are, I envy you.  Other than some boredom and frustration, the misery index on A4W's seems pretty negligible to me.  I guess that 10-month marathon deployment that LINCOLN went on would have sucked.  A bunch.

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« Reply #6 on: Jan 31, 2009, 01:58 »
I really hope you're not talking about an A4W carrier...  If you are, I envy you.  Other than some boredom and frustration, the misery index on A4W's seems pretty negligible to me.  I guess that 10-month marathon deployment that LINCOLN went on would have sucked.  A bunch.

I will have to agree that some of the worst times in my life where onboard CVN-71 however some of the best times where onboard CVN-71. Having never been underway on a SSN or SSBN I won't try to guess at the quality of life differances, that being said every ex-sub guy on the carrier hated it and said they wanted to go back to subs. The reason most often given was the quality of leadership and people.

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« Reply #7 on: Jan 31, 2009, 02:06 »
I will have to agree that some of the worst times in my life where onboard CVN-71 however some of the best times where onboard CVN-71. Having never been underway on a SSN or SSBN I won't try to guess at the quality of life differences, that being said every ex-sub guy on the carrier hated it and said they wanted to go back to subs. The reason most often given was the quality of leadership and people.

Quality of life CVN vs. SSN:  Think of something that seems inadequate on a CVN.  It's most likely non-existent on a SSN. 

In port working hours are better on CVN, except for the fact that CVN's like to start up days in advance, putting Rx in port/stbd. SSN nukes come in early on the day they go underway, start up and go.  I've noticed some military differences as well, but they seem to even out. 

As far as hating the carrier and wanting to go back to a boat...  Not really.  Sure I miss the guys from the boat, and I keep in touch with quite a few.  I work with great people on the ship right now (though a submarine's crew is a lot tighter group), and I'll work with great people on shore duty (or civilian life -- haven't decided yet); so there's no reason to hate the carrier just because these new people aren't the same as my old people.  Leadership works the same way.  I've been lucky my entire time in the Navy.  I had probably the best CPO quarters and wardroom that ever lived when I was on the boat, and I work with some kick-ass chiefs and officers on the carrier.
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Re: Rate your fleet Experience!
« Reply #8 on: Feb 01, 2009, 02:13 »
I could go on and on here in this thread about my experiences on sea duty however the bottom line is I loved it. On November 8th 1989 I flew onto the USS Enterprise in the South China sea and I did not leave a sea duty billet until I retired last month. Being at sea on any vessel is a rare privilege a fortunate few will experience. I for one will miss it greatly.
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« Reply #9 on: Feb 01, 2009, 06:18 »
Whats good about indentured servitude floating compared to on land?  Hmmm--let me think--not much room or privacy on the three SSN's I was on and working out with dumbells on rubber mats was not my idea of Ballys. 90-100 work weeks--- but you never had to worry about fixing your own food. 17.5% oxygen made you fell tired, but min--thins and coffee were the drugs of choice.  Haircuts and uniform were not made to be a big standard on a SSN like on them diggity surface ships were I hear the MAA's write you up for that stupid crap

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Re: Rate your fleet Experience!
« Reply #10 on: Feb 01, 2009, 11:34 »

In port working hours are better on CVN, except for the fact that CVN's like to start up days in advance, putting Rx in port/stbd. SSN nukes come in early on the day they go underway, start up and go.  I've noticed some military differences as well, but they seem to even out. 


It wasn't until I talked to a guy I work with and trained(Ex-BT that went LDO and became an MPA on a Gator or something that still had boilers) that I learned how much of the conventional carrier wisdom has carried over to the nuclear.  My co-worker informed me that it is normal procedure for conventionals to come in several days early to start up the boilers and let them steam in port.  When he changed the night orders to start up the night before, the Chief Engineer threw a fit.  Another wonderful carry over was that in the surface fleet we "light off" equipment rather than "start it up" which is another carryover. 
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« Reply #11 on: Feb 01, 2009, 12:48 »
I could go on and on here in this thread about my experiences on sea duty however the bottom line is I loved it. On November 8th 1989 I flew onto the USS Enterprise in the South China sea and I did not leave a sea duty billet until I retired last month. Being at sea on any vessel is a rare privilege a fortunate few will experience. I for one will miss it greatly.

Just reading this caused my computer to develop salt deposits.  :P  It is always good, though, to hear from senior enlisted leadership who actually like their jobs.  We don't always get to see that.

Thank you for staying in for the love of the profession.  We need more like you.
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Re: Rate your fleet Experience!
« Reply #12 on: Feb 02, 2009, 11:04 »
Some of the worst times I've ever had were on the boat, and some of the best times I've ever had were with the guys from boat.  Having shared the bad times is what made the good times so good. 

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Re: Rate your fleet Experience!
« Reply #13 on: Feb 02, 2009, 02:13 »
Just reading this caused my computer to develop salt deposits. 

" And there we were, in the Straits of Malacca...."  ;)

Speaking of the Big E, nothing to shake up your day to see her DIW with a 15o list. Been there, done that.
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« Reply #14 on: Feb 02, 2009, 02:39 »
How about locking down a shaft due to abnormal noises, getting told to be in Sector A by XYZ date which will require a minimum sustained speed of ###, fixing said problem on the main engine, and being to told to unlock the shaft USING STEAM and local throttle control since we can't slow down.  Increase pucker factor due to the fact that no one on the entire ship has ever done said evolution and you get to be the "guinea-saruas-rex"(Southpark reference) Chief Machinery Operator that gets to see if it really works.

Now that was indeed rather interesting, fun, and hair raising at the same time.  After we somehow managed to safely do it, the RO decided that every watch team should do it at least once.
« Last Edit: Feb 02, 2009, 02:40 by Preciousblue1965 »
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« Reply #15 on: Feb 02, 2009, 04:16 »
Wow.  11-5 negative to positive on the fleet experience.  I guess I sort of expected that, but maybe this doesn't belong in the public section of the forum...  I don't intend to turn any newcomers away from the program.
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« Reply #16 on: Feb 02, 2009, 07:08 »
striking for nuclear recruiter duty?!?!?!  :P

Oh, I'm more of the instructor type.  I'm just working in an undermanned community. ;D

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« Reply #17 on: Feb 02, 2009, 08:26 »
Served aboard USS Long Beach, USS Carl Vinson, and USS Enterprise.
Triple confirmation. Didn't like, in order of detestation:
1) Brown Trout on the floor in the head
2) Lines for everything
3) Food quality
4) The Entire Deck or Supply Department of any of these surface ships
5) "It will get better after ORSE / WestPac / Gitmo / Shakedown / Commissioning..."
6)"We only need you guys to do this just once..."
7) That giant cockroach on the Long Beach that had nearly ingested my left pinky toe before I smashed him on the berthing compartment floor. I believe it had previously ingested a Vietnam Service ribbon, from the guts color.
8) Asbestos lagging replacement circa 1970's.
9) IX resin blow circa 1970's.
10) Puget Sound Naval Shipyard - or PeniSaNuS, we called it.

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« Reply #18 on: Feb 03, 2009, 08:59 »
At the time, I thought it sucked.  But in retrospect, it wasn't that bad.  Northern runs were great because there were no noise making field day evolutions, and we only drilled and killed on the way there or way back.  Certainly a feeling of job satisfaction from being able to troubleshoot and repair problems on-station.  Made some great friends, learned alot, saw alot.  And it certainly didn't hurt my career!
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« Reply #19 on: Feb 03, 2009, 02:25 »
I can say that in my short 3 years on board my carrier, I got to see things that most nukes spend 20 years and never see. 

I got to see the #4 Main Engine turbine casing lifted.  Found out we had some blades missing.

I got to unlock a shaft using steam

I had a "no pooper" GQ a week after 9/11 due to a training "mine" left in the channel at NASNI.

I got to see Main Engine bearings rolled out.

I got to see a maintenance evolution that was single cofferdam to sea.

So I got to see a lot of neato things out on the ship.  However, no amount of "neat stuff" will ever make up for the 108 days continuous underway, the port and starboard duty days at the end of the yard periods, the missed holidays, the "hurry up and wait" days, the "just in case something comes up" times, and all the other wonders of being a nuke.
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« Reply #20 on: Feb 03, 2009, 06:52 »
I think my name speaks for itself...so of course I loved my time in the Navy.  Being on Trident Submarines my entire career didn't allow me to see the world and do all the fun things that fast boats do.  However, there were some cool times.

The most exciting day was on March 21, 1989 for the first submarine launch of the new D-5 trident missile.



The USS TENNESSEE went on to launch many successful trident missiles but the first was exciting.

The most interesting part of the whole day was for the dependents who were watching nearby on the Range Sentinel.  The submarine had communications with the RS.  When we launched, the depth control system did not keep us on depth so we sank out and lost comms with the RS.  The 1MC on the RS went something like this...

3...2...1...missile away...missile broach...1st stage ignition...catastrophic failure...TENNESSEE make best speed down range...we've lost the TENNESSEE (speaking of comms but after a horrific explosion).

On the video, you can hear all the wives screaming...priceless!

Good times.

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« Reply #21 on: Feb 03, 2009, 07:56 »
no sound on vid

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« Reply #22 on: Feb 03, 2009, 08:09 »
no sound on vid
Yes, there is no sound on this video.  I cannot find my copy of the video where you can actually hear the countdown and the wives screaming...sorry.

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« Reply #23 on: Feb 03, 2009, 08:12 »
I tried to make it a positive experience.  Got to see a lot of foreign liberty ports on surface ships, especially on the Nimitz, although the best quality port was on the Texas(CGN39) when we spent Christmas and New Years in La Spezia, Italy.  Nice place and great food.  Being on the Nimitz made us almost honorary citizens of Napoli. 

But it could be exciting, such as when I earned my Navy Expeditionary Medal on CVN-68 while heroically doing generator samples and the occasional primary while on Bagel Station, Lebanon.   Then there was the time the ERS on the Texas was playing drums with a screwdriver on the lower level of #1 Engine Room.  He tapped on an inlet pipe (I forget which system) and it was like Jed Clampett shooting for some food, but instead of discovering crude we had seawater start pouring in as the rusted out (but well painted) pipe busted open.  Never saw a real live DC patch installed so quickly (the leak was on the wrong side of the inlet valve).  But it gave us an unexpected week back at Norfolk in what was supposed to be an 8 week sea period.   

Carrier duty was a lot better than many think. 
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« Reply #24 on: Mar 05, 2009, 04:47 »
Well, I will jump in on this one.  Seems things never change.  Sea duty is a function of your job and the Capitan.  The job seldom changes, but a good Capitan is a world of difference over a bad one.

Anyway, my first fleet experience was reporting aboard the USS Bainbridge in May of 1968, as she sat in dry dock in Vallejo finishing up the first refueling.  The deck watch, an ET was elated to see me as his division was expecting a new body.  When he said, "Oh no, another Nuke" I should have taken pause.

Anyway, life as a RO was three section duty in port, and 4-8's underway.  Add to that qualifications, and maintenance, there was little time to yourself.  My favorite watch was the 4-8's .  After the 16-2000 I got to watch the movie, then came the 0400-0800, a great watch, never had to go to quarters.  I did this for two years, and it was one of the most memorable experiences I had.  The ship was not a happy ship, but we did get good ports of call.  (nukes then did not get special pay, other then re-up pay)

After two years, I got orders for Idaho Falls, which I turned down, taking instead a billet on the USS Decatur DDG-31.  Life in the conventional Navy as an E-6, in Operations, was worlds apart from Nukes.  The only time I stood port and starboard watches was during condition 2 steaming during the Indian/Pakistani war.

Oh, an aside.  When I first enlisted, I wanted Submarine services, but because I wore glasses, I was not accepted.  I do remember at quarters on the Bainbridge, the Division Officer announced that the Submarine Services were looking of RO's, even with poor eye sight, and asked for volunteers.  No one step forward then or later...

After a total of six years in the Navy, I was faced with orders to the USS Enterprise or leave the Navy.  I requested dropping the nuke designator as a condition to re-enlistment.  Did not happen, so I left. 
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« Reply #25 on: Mar 05, 2009, 07:00 »
The best days on a cruiser or destroyer were light duty days like these...
Bainbridge (Oh, somewhere else I read a comment that ships like this one were not cruisers.  Look at her, a 7,800 tons she was more then equal to light cruisers)


Decatur


I was on an aircraft carrier only once when I was helicopter transferred from the Decatur to the Constellation to observe EW exercises.  I must have been approached no less then 5 times by the MA for not wearing a ball cap (I didn't bring one because I think I would need one).  I was especially unimpressed when the Captain entered the EW area during exercises and some idiot called "Attention on deck".  I remained seated and just looked on in disbelief.
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« Reply #26 on: Mar 08, 2009, 03:00 »
The best days on a cruiser or destroyer were light duty days like these...
Bainbridge (Oh, somewhere else I read a comment that ships like this one were not cruisers.  Look at her, a 7,800 tons she was more then equal to light cruisers)




Love the perspective view of this one, with the ASROC box behind the Mk 11 launcher....the ASROC rails on the Mk 11 were such a hassle to set up!  >:(

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« Reply #27 on: Mar 08, 2009, 06:44 »
I consider myself lucky because I got everything I ever wanted out of the Navy and more.  But I got out as a 13 yr MMC (SS/SW) because my priorities in life changed.  However, I DEFINITELY remember that there were alot of times that I absolutely hated the boat, the Navy, and everything related to it.  I heard a quote from a WWII veteran on television the other day, and he summed it up perfectly for me.  He said:

"I  loved [my military experience], and I wouldn't trade it for a million dollars, but I also wouldn't pay a nickel to do it over again."

Perfectly put in my opinion.

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« Reply #28 on: Mar 08, 2009, 07:09 »


"I  loved [my military experience], and I wouldn't trade it for a million dollars, but I also wouldn't pay a nickel to do it over again."


But I sure do enjoy spending that extra check each month.  :P

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« Reply #29 on: Oct 09, 2009, 12:00 »
Sure I'm digging up an old thread, but we have new posters here with new experience and views on the fleet.  Just bumping it up.

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« Reply #30 on: Oct 15, 2009, 09:49 »
Many nitpicks about my life aboard a carrier (Enterprise nontheless)

1. 3 section duty or out to sea for 80% of my tour
2. Standing afternoon and midwatch and then expected to do a 1700 workday afterwards in said 3 section duty.
3. It takes almost a week to get all 8 reactors up....and we almost never went full condition 1 unless we were in port for a month or greater.
4. Doing port and starboard or fast cruise to start up said reactors so we can get out to sea.
5. Airdales - Really good at making sure the chow line extended all the way aft and wrapped into the hangar bay.
6. Being able to support 6 section duty but going to 4 section duty to train for PORSE 10 months in advance.
7. "We have nothing to do but you need to stay just in case..."
8. 8 people (over half a duty sections worth) that have been waiting on HOD boards to qualify SIR for over 4 months (some for almost a year).
9. "Homey Hookups"  Don't feel like waiting in line or want a full pizza to yourself?  Just go give the secret handshake to the head CS on watch and bingo.


I'm sure I could come up with a lot more.  With all that being said...at least I'm not getting shot at.  This is the military and if it was easy everyone would do it.  I get a shower every night and I get to sleep in my own 6'x3' piece of home on the worst nights, something not everyone in the military can say.  A lot of the things listed above are personnel issues that could easily be adjudicated.  I will say that I love the comradery.  At least I had a lot of guys to sit around and b**** about things with.  Made it a little easier to deal with things and I've met people that I'll probably keep in touch with for the rest of my life. 

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« Reply #31 on: Nov 03, 2009, 07:37 »
The joys of life on SSGN can summerized in the following:
1. port visits: welcome to guam /diego garcia and your not leaving.
2. oldest boat in the fleet: it's ancient, more shit gets held together with baling wire and duct tape.
3. We train like we fight: nope we train to train. Remember to complain about the training done at the end of the day. So that you can get that piece of maintainece done
4. Seals, Special Ops, Generals, CTI/CTE: your not gonna enjoy having additional 66 to 100 extra bastards onboard. And forget about hot food, they get fed first then the crew.
5. Manning issues, since they been trying to do the lean manning. Enjoy been port & stupid while underway due to lack of bodies in the nuclear divisions.
6. Since it was made into being a supposed career enhancing job & experience we get the pick of the diggits, idiots, bitter, angry and the cult of me personalities onboard.
7. Saturday, Sunday & Godawful Nights. (Enuff said.)
8. Every major run starting and ending with a major examination. The brain beating has got to stop.

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« Reply #32 on: Nov 20, 2009, 03:23 »
Just signed and swore in yesterday.. leave in July.. these posts make me wonder if im making a huge mistake?!   ???

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« Reply #33 on: Feb 22, 2011, 06:22 »
The joys of life on SSGN can summerized in the following:
2. oldest boat in the fleet: it's ancient, more shit gets held together with baling wire and duct tape.

Oh dear God I feel old.  I remember when those boats were brand spanking new.

Dave <---- first RC Divver to report to USS Michigan Blue after commissioning.

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« Reply #34 on: Feb 22, 2011, 08:12 »
Oh dear God I feel old.  I remember when those boats were brand spanking new.

Since I'm assuming Warmonger711 was refering to the SSGN 587 and not the OHIO Class SSGNs, I do too! ;D
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« Reply #35 on: Feb 22, 2011, 09:11 »
Boat 1:  SSBN 633B- Broke all the time (but never missed an underway).  Getting parts was easy.
Boat 2:  SSN 666- Old boat near the end of life.  Had to beg, borrow, and steal to get parts.  
Boat 3:  PCU/SSN 23- Initial manning to COH to Bangor.  Great experience.  Too bad a great crew was wasted in the shipyard.
Boat 3a: SSN 720.  Filled in when their E Div LCPO broke.  Rode her for most of deployment.  High stress leading up to launching tomahawks.  Drank 2 Heinekens in the CPO quarters.
Rode the following SSNs while in Squadron 4: 21, 22, 719, 755, 768, 774, 775, 776, 777, 778

SSBN:  Sucked bad on the boat.  Off-crew was great.
SSN:    Very hard work, but the best guys I served with (nuke and non-nuke).
New Con:  Way harder than it needed to be.  Easy to lose big picture.  Once again good people put in very tough work environment.
Squadron duty:  Loved the job for the most part.  Tried very hard to teach requirements instead of "best practices".  That is often easier said than done.
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« Reply #36 on: Feb 22, 2011, 10:59 »
When did you ride 755?

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« Reply #37 on: Feb 22, 2011, 11:53 »
I was probably one of the yardbirds in your Hawkbill days....small world! ;)

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« Reply #38 on: Feb 23, 2011, 08:35 »
The Navy taught me
how to vomit and maintain chemistry
that people bond through adversity
there are some f**ked people in the Navy
Some of them belong there
a crazy skipper will probably keep you alive longer
I can sleep through missile shoots
Sleep is more valuable than money
We will dump water to the bilge while on water hours (WTF?)
I will take a shower if we dump water to the bilge on water hours and be written up
some people will NEVER figure out how to use a sound powered phone (push to talk)
you'll be treated like sh*t then asked to reinlist
My rack mattress was 72" x 26" x 2.5", I am 74 inches tall
We could make high quality bilge wine using bug juice, rad con bottles and filtering it to crystal clear happiness
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Re: Rate your fleet Experience!
« Reply #39 on: Feb 23, 2011, 06:57 »
 I managed to overcome my claustrophobia by volunteering Subs.  I figured either I would beat it or it would get the better of me.

 I guess the initial fear of stepping into the ketchup bottle prototype just did not compete with my curiosity of what was actually going on.

 Only assigned three boats (671, 597 & 738) but rode many too sea for inspections and what not.

 I have only been seasick once in my life, during Alpha trials on the 738..... worse than anything was everyone else puking around me.  After two days I let go finally.

 As for my overall experience.  It was as good as I think I could have made it.  I served with some real jerks, a few creeps, and some guys that i would be honored to call brothers.

 

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Re: Rate your fleet Experience!
« Reply #40 on: Feb 23, 2011, 08:52 »
When did you ride 755?

First time 2006, last time Fall 2008.
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Re: Rate your fleet Experience!
« Reply #41 on: Feb 23, 2011, 09:33 »
Only assigned three boats (671, 597 & 738) but rode many too sea for inspections and what not.

There's the other one-of-a-kind!  My baby and my hated 597!
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Re: Rate your fleet Experience!
« Reply #42 on: Feb 24, 2011, 10:16 »
First time 2006, last time Fall 2008.

Ah, after my time then.

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Re: Rate your fleet Experience!
« Reply #43 on: Feb 24, 2011, 10:40 »
Hmm, I just realized I never "rated" my fleet experience, so here goes.

I reported to the USS Miami, SSN-755 out of Groton, Ct, right after she returned from a deployment on which she shot missiles in two different theaters. On the way home, they earned an Excellent on orse... life was good on the boat.

I didn't realize just how highly regarded the Miami was at that time until I was walking around subase doing my check ins, and I was being stopped in the street by Chiefs and officers saying things like "You are on the Miami? That must be amazing!!!" etc etc etc. So, I was getting excited about being on such an awesome boat.

I quickly learned why this boat was so awesome... the Skipper was awesome. So was the XO, the Eng, the Nav, the Cob and the EDMC. The stars aligned for the Miami during this period, and a terrific cadre of senior leadership was on board. The best of them all, though, was the CO.

This guy simply new how to lead men. For example, in port field day was scheduled from 8-12 every Friday. However, never once, under this CO, did we actually complete a 4 hour field day. The crew knew, that about an hour into field day, the Skipper was going to walk around the boat to check on cleanliness and how hard everyone was working. If he was satisfied, they knew he was going to put liberty down for everyone, so the entire crew, including officers and chiefs, busted their A$$ES during that hour or so. And sure enough, the skipper would walk through and then get on the 1MC and say something like, "Well I just got done walking around the boat, the ship is clean, everyone is working hard, and A gang threatened to do unnatural things to me if I didn't put liberty down, so liberty is down by the CO." It was pretty sweet working what was effectively a 4 day week.

Another anecdote, is when I was only in my third or fourth week of being on board, it was the middle of a beautiful summer, and I passed the Skipper in the middle level passage way when he stopped me and asked; "Petty Officer Crocker, have you taken leave since you've been here?" I replied "No sir, I've only been here a few weeks, and I am not qualified anything, so I didn't think I should take leave just yet." He ordered "I want to see a 2 week leave chit by the end of the day." "Wow," I thought.

I could go on and on and on about how fantastic he was as a Skipper. He simply knew human nature and how to get the most out of his men. The crew was happy, I was happy and the boat was happy as it raked in accolade after accolade. I thought, "wow, if this is what life is going to be like on a boat, I could do this forever." I reenlisted.

Then my next CO showed up. He doesn't even get the honor of being called skipper by me. He was the complete opposite, a tyrant. In fact, to this day, the most uncomfortable event I ever witnessed in the Navy was the dressing down of my XO, who was awesome, by this CO in front of the entire crew. He often yelled and stomped his feet. The boat went from earning exellents in Orse, TRE and everything else to below average on every inspection under this guy. The crew was miserable, reenlistment's nearly ceased, I regretted my decision. He was basically a ship yard CO, as much as his tour was spent taking the boat through DMP. He drove us hard because he wanted the fasted DMP ever, in the hopes that "they" would let him take this boat on a deployment. He got his wish, we performed the fasted DMP ever at that time, but "they" didn't let him take this boat on the deployment that was scheduled soon after. This further added to his frustration, which was then directed at the crew.

I just happened to be the maneuvering watch bridge phone talker for most of my time on the boat, and one of the things that stood out to me near the end of his tour, is that when we returned from our last underway under his command, I extended my hand to shake his as he departed the bridge and say, "It was good serving with you, Sir." Sure, it wasn't true, but still the right thing to do I thought. He looked at my hand, refused to take it and said, "I wish I could say the same."


So to make a long story short, my fleet experience started at a 5+ and ended on a 1-. Besides that bad CO, we also had a string of bad COBs and EDMCs that didn't help things. I went from the biggest diggit in the Navy to one of the most bitter.

Fortunately now thought, as time from EAOS gets bigger, only happy memories remain. I have once again, become a post-EAOS diggit and tell sea stories with the best of them.

For that, I am happy.

YMMV.
« Last Edit: Feb 24, 2011, 10:42 by JustinHEMI »

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Re: Rate your fleet Experience!
« Reply #44 on: Feb 24, 2011, 10:34 »
Excellent post, Justin.

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Re: Rate your fleet Experience!
« Reply #45 on: Feb 24, 2011, 10:40 »
I see that for the most part, everyone is being honest and straight from the ♥.  Good Stuff.  I spent most of my 23 years in the Nuclear Navy, Subs or teaching.  Detours into 2nd class diving and EOD.  The best thing about my Fleet experience, the people.  Sure, we all had NUB's, qualified or not........But for the most part, given some imaginable task, some incomprehensible deadline, the Sailors I worked for/with, met it every time.  Unbelievable group of folks serving.
« Last Edit: Feb 24, 2011, 10:42 by bluenose »

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Re: Rate your fleet Experience!
« Reply #46 on: Feb 25, 2011, 02:36 »
Since I'm assuming Warmonger711 was refering to the SSGN 587 and not the OHIO Class SSGNs, I do too! ;D

Did HALIBUT ever pull into Diego Garcia?

 


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