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mostlyharmless:
What I am after is : how is it done where you work,what do you think works better? I also think we can learn from each others personal experiences. Also if you are a safety professional,what career paths are available?
This is not about telling the worst story like steam line ruptures or electrical arcs, but certainly do not hesitate to share. This is an attempt to bring safety a bit forward in thinking and discussion.
Chimera:
--- Quote from: mutant on Mar 27, 2010, 10:59 ---My point is that the reasons employees decide to behave unsafely are as varied as the employees themselves and the environment in which they work and cannot be lumped under the aforemention reasons (B-S-E).
Scenario 1 - blaming the supervisor does not bring the dead back to life. The laborer behaved unsafely, I never said it was his fault. The supervisor played a role, but ignorance was the real culprit.
Scenario 2 The carpenter chose to work unsafely, and yes, risk her life, because she thought to do otherwise would cost her money that was needed by her family.. Unfortunately, this happens too often.
BTW, neither scenario is hypothetical. Simplified yes, but both certainly happened.
Also, The VP at DCPP participates in the investigation of recordables (house and contractor) and visits the site where the event occurred. Other sites have the same level of oversight.
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Your paragraph quoted above that begins with "Also, . . ." pretty much sums up my problems with most safety programs I've observed over the years. "They visit the site where the event occurred." I would much rather have the safety guy and/or his representatives, the site managers and even the Vice President visit those sites before the event occurrs. We can preach in the pre-job meetings and hang all the posters we want but the real impact is when those guys are out there on the job site observing and leading by their own example.
I don't need some after-the-fact dude preaching to me. Get in the mix with me and show me. Stop me before I cut that corner while in the thick of the "battle" at the job site and it will stick with me longer and better.
Good judgement comes from bad situations which were usually caused by bad judgement.
Take off that tie. Get off your collective butts. Get out there on the job. Preempt that next case of bad judgement and reinforce the "safety culture" you really want.
I like to consider myself as being fairly safety conscious. However, I know that consciousness comes from both witnessing and being involved in scenarios that did not go as planned. That is what I preach to my crew - both in the meetings and on the job - every day. And, because I'm there involved in their work and leading with my own personal examples, they learn without having to experience the bad judgements that I went through.
Okay. I'll get off my soap box now.
Mike
WTF:
Spot on. I am a safety manager for a drill shaft company. Our bigger jobs are installing foundation shafts for the SCR/FGD environmental projects at coal burners. We work in a at risk environment all day, every day. I have no safety pros under me, as I am the safety department. My time in the field is about 97%. The other 3% is the admin stuff, as I do not have any clerical help. WAAAAAA I would like some female companion! I couch workers, argue with management, and try to accommodate the client all day long. Just my presence keeps the workers thinking safety. Our crew is great, our RIR is zero, and our EMR is zero. Not bad for bring here for two years and working 6/12’s. Workers MUST respect the safety department in order to work safe. Again, SPOT ON DUDE 8)
RDTroja:
--- Quote from: WTF on Apr 10, 2010, 08:32 ---Spot on. I am a safety manager for a drill shaft company. Our bigger jobs are installing foundation shafts for the SCR/FGD environmental projects at coal burners. We work in a at risk environment all day, every day. I have no safety pros under me, as I am the safety department. My time in the field is about 97%. The other 3% is the admin stuff, as I do not have any clerical help. WAAAAAA I would like some female companion! I couch workers, argue with management, and try to accommodate the client all day long. Just my presence keeps the workers thinking safety. Our crew is great, our RIR is zero, and our EMR is zero. Not bad for bring here for two years and working 6/12’s. Workers MUST respect the safety department in order to work safe. Again, SPOT ON DUDE 8)
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I just love a good Freudian slip.
Mike McFarlin:
Wonder what he really meant?
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