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Outages For 2010
SloGlo:
--- Quote from: Content1 on Feb 04, 2010, 10:23 ---
Not to disparage most 2 year college programs, but the Navy does the same all in 6 months and I would trust their knowledge and training over many with a 4 year degree.
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a peace of paper is good four moor than cuvering wholes in the wall. it helps open doors. tru, their are peepul who got up in the whirled with out degrees. duzzant mean that school ain't kneaded. it means those peeps where extremely driven, probly "type a" personalitees. having tracable paper is a good thing. eye had a similar type of experience. after eye put in my time atta operating power plant to git my 3.1, only two have a.n.s.i. change da wording on that definition, i needed a weigh to seperate frum the herd of instant 3.1. aye wuz too old to join da navy, 'n life had me in a position witch wood have made that matrimonial suicide. sew, eye hadda git some tech training that would be recognizabull two doze peepill who hire. i found a job witch qualled me at navsea rct article 108. vary good technical training and it has been recognized everywhere. butt, it's training that can be traced to a known source. in da field training, otj, what ever, cannont and isn't taken seriously. dat iz da reason people doing da hiring look at how long you've bin in da field, where yu've been, 'n yer references so closely. witch iss all sew why sum sites dew knot automatically consider yew a 18.1 as soon as ya gots yer 24 months in or recognize ya as a 3.1 soon's ya turn 36 months. training certs 'n degrees git ya there faster 'n better.
Bonds 25:
--- Quote from: btkeele on Feb 05, 2010, 03:51 ---YOU made 3.1? Way to go! LOL you get that new B'mer you were lookin at?
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I was able to keep myself from buying the BMW.......till October. The thing is a massive beast, and can actually scare the hell out of me. If your return for our "88" day outage, I will make sure to scare the hell out of you too. BTW.....we still have (2) HP Supervisor positions open....I can put in a good word for you lol. And you know Im only a 3.1 in time accumulated.....really Im still a deconner at heart.
RAD-GHOST:
Marssim,
The 18.1 senior positions are similar to the assigned Warrant Officer titles of the military. From our industries perspective, the time stipulation assigns the title. Although several sites accept individuals at that status, they are usually restricted from what would be considered high risk activities, unless accompanied by a more experienced technician, (3.1). The industries manpower demands may expand the duties of these individuals, which would probably yield some new regulatory oversight. I have been to a couple of sites that used 18.1 seniors and had problems. The field supervisors only hear the word “SENIOR” and dish out duties beyond the individual’s level of experience and expertise. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn’t, depends on the technicians ability to know when their in over their head, combined with the willingness to admit it.
cubby11,
You haven't realized it, but you have a huge advantage! As Slo mentioned, you have a traceable line on your career pedigree! You where probably exposed to information that many members of our community don’t even know exist! I'll bet Marssim's 50 bucks that you don't even know why some of the information was taught, or why you had to know and test on it, but that will be clarified as you gain experience in the industry! As far as the classroom policies for attendance, my hat’s off to that instructor!
From the political aspect.....You attended and passed a program apparently sponsored by the NRC! The program probably had a couple of other players associated with it, a contract company and/or maybe a utility or two! Anybody in Nuke-Land want to overlook a kid’s resume that reads "Completed XXXX program, sponsorship by the US NRC"!
There are a couple of programs I know of, that sponsors actually subsidize and pay wages to the attendees. Not a bad gig when you think of it, their giving these individuals a technical degree, a roof over their head and food on the table.
Then again, I could just be making that up…… ;)!
Outages 2010…Happy Hunting…RG!
stewdill:
Oh boy putting myself out there on this one. But the topic was the reason why road workers are finding it hard to find work. As far as Jr.s I know a little about this and have seen it first hand. I am myself a new 18.1 Sr. Recently graduating from the clutches of Jr. Time. I feel where some of the anger about these grads are justified to some point. I am speaking now from hearsay and from personal experience. When it comes to Bartlett and people rising up from being a deconner to a Jr. Education in nuclear field doesn't matter much. Or at all. I have known people who on their own have sought out getting education in the nuclear field and still not being able to rise to a Jr. position.
Then we have the Interns. OK so we got replaced with interns in our Jr. Jobs because the plant wanted to give them job experience.And later see if they wanted to hire them. We hated it, but we understood it. But Low and behold they didn't get their house job. O soooo sorry. But who returns the very next outage season as a fresh faced new Jr Rp for Bartlett. The same kids. And I have worked with MANY MANY MANY of them. Some are smart and try very hard. Most......................... .... well......................... ... Maybe they should of paid attention in meter reading class.... I don't really see why these kids are able to score the Jr jobs that are available over deconners who hope to move up. Some of those deconners may have the same training but remain decon. It is all very confusing to me. And not really much of a worry for me anymore until those non-meter reading kids become Srs. Lord help us all.
I guess this reply is in reply to whoever it was that said for road workers to go to school to compete with the Interns. When many have went to school and it counted towards diddly crap. And the interns have a road paved in gold.......... why I don't know.
Content1:
--- Quote from: stewdill on Feb 06, 2010, 06:18 ---I guess this reply is in reply to whoever it was that said for road workers to go to school to compete with the Interns. When many have went to school and it counted towards diddly crap. And the interns have a road paved in gold.......... why I don't know.
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I thought I was talked out of this thread but the above post brought me back to a sore spot I have with Bartlett. When I was at Rocky Flats Bartlett had a program to train you to be an RCT and I paid $2,200 to get my daughter trained in said program. She took the 8 week course, which was more then just how to pass the core exam, that is meters, surveys etc. She passed with flying colors. Did it get her an outage? No. She started as a deconner and worked her way to a junior jobs just like a lot of other deconners. She then passed the NUF. I guess it made her a more knowledgeable junior, but it did not get her a position that she could have got as a deconner anyway and $2,200 down the drain. You why I am somewhat skeptical about the value of the training programs verses on the job experience.
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