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KevsHarley:
I don't think they use the PDE-4 any more. They went to the PD-10 which is about the same as the PDE-4. I'm not sure what you looking for, but you can read all about them on the SAIC web site.

makua13:
JJ
Rick engel here, RMS is my specia;ity and I have been to Brunswick with the Bartlett system and I have worked there in maintenance of your equipment.
Number 1; Bartletts software is bt far the best on the market and the only one that can be modified for your own applications, 24/7 assistance from the programmer.  You guys have got the best iodine monitoring system with the AMS4s, there just isnt anything better in the RMS area right now.  Is Jim Hinson still there?  Your AMS4s did need a modification as Eberlines pumps and filtering is real bad.  Fermi 2 has a fantastic mod for them (bertossib @dteenergy.com).
Pelco has the best cameras (although expensive) and you guys already have the best controllers (I went to Pelco school with your people).  The main parts of the system are the controllers, which yoiu have, and intercom.  The main cameras shold be Pelcos ,I really like Panasonic cameras better, but your controllers are Pelco and they are real good too, however alot of your cameras do not need to be pan and tilt and you can buy a bunch of cameras for cheap that work real good.  Monitors also, not Pelco or Sony as they are very expensive...a monitor is a monitor, so buy elsewhere.  Sharp makes the best monitor (my opinion based on 39 yrs experience) and 1/4 the cost of Sony.  I know, last time I was there, you really needed fiber optics to link all the stuff together.  You were working on it but had a non-responsive company doing some work and you wanted to keep most of it "inhouse" instead of bringing in a contractor.  Reading the previous posts; forget SONGS as their system is totally different from yours.  Most plants I have seen are similar, you just need an SME to come in, inventory your equipment, analyze your needs, and assist in designing a package.  I can assist in some areas if you wish, or can help you locate a responsible contractor.  The most important thing though, is the software, and if you do not go Bartlett you will be making a mistake (promise).
It has to be expandable, adaptable, and able to handle all brands of equipment.  There is only one.

jjordan:
Rick,
Thanks, I remember you, when you were here last I was probably the outside tech.(Yankees don't mind foul weather) :P Yes Bill Hinson is still here, together we are the Brunswick compliment to the Progress Energy Remote Monitoring Focus Group. Our goal is to help all 4 of the Progress sites to develope and implement remote monitoring. We all have varing degrees of capabilities usage and equipment. We are trying to standardize the software and equipment to economize by making group purchases, also enableling us to share more effectivley. We have quite a few SME's already employed with Progress Energy, Myself, Jim Skinner, and Cornell Gaines are all former Bartlett RMS techs, and Mike Seabock is very profficient with the Pelco System as are several other individuals.I whole heartedly agree that Bartletts software is the best by far! And Dan Doxtader is the best programmer in the buisiness. He does provide true 24/7 support, which nobody else can come close to matching. We are considering other software, but 3 of 4 sites already own MJW (GEDDS) With our restrictive budgets a major software purchase is painfull, GEDDS works for us, but we are trying to work with MJW to enhance it to do some things it doesn't do that we need! (communicating with AMS4's) I was responsible for the purchasing of the AMS4's and agree that they are about as good as it gets for remote monitoring, but we have several issues with them and mentioned this to Eberline's rep that visited us last week. We talk with Fermi a bit, I've worked several outages there and know most everyone, and will see what kind of mod they have. Our main concern is we want to replace our old NMC CAMs with them , but haven't been able to figure out an easy ecconomical way to quantify Iodine. I was hoping to find a little help here, STP showed some promise, would love to hear more from them! ;D As for our video, Brunswick has a lot of Pelco equipment, Harris has a good bit Robinson has none and Crystal River has Panasonic. We're trying to get a little bit more standard here but the cost is prohibitive, will have to do it in stages. Thanks for the input on monitors, will look at the Sharps when we purchase again. We have a fairly good fiber backbone at Brunswick , but we don't controll it. We have a excellent relationship with our NIT group and hope we can get what we need. I know SONGS's system isn't what I need here,(I helped install it) but I'm also trying to help the other 3 PWR sites, and it would work for them. My ultimate goal is for a permenant penetration and installation. So we can use during power entries (almost there) also will save time and dose during outages ;) When you comming back? We can use you in instruments! Thanks for all of your input, it's always helpfull.
JJ

makua13:
I am sorry to hear you talk about GEDDS and upgrades.  This will be the limiting factor for your system.  It can not do anything like the Bartlett system.  The other major software  has bugs that allows people to dissappear from the screen with loss of monitoring (2 exposures over work limits at 2 plants that I am aware of).  You get the Bartlett software and then bring me down there for a couple of weeks and I will show you hoe to save enough money to pay the difference.  As Confusious says "If your software sucks, so does your system."  You can not effectively manage several jobs and locations with it.  Come to Fermi ( I will be there next week) and we can talk and demo or meet me at Ft Calhoun or Wolf Creek this Spring.  I really hate to see a Plant make a decision that will hurt and limit them for several outages.  And, oh yeah, the penetration is critical, you have to push for that ASAP.  There are things you may want to monitor during run cycle, and you need a "plug in and go" setup for those pesky unscheduled shutdowns.

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