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MeterSwangin:
--- Quote from: redline on Aug 17, 2010, 04:18 ---I have a different isssue with INPO.
I get very tired of fixing things that aint broke just because some yeahoo somewhere else thinks it's good idea even though we've had no problem with what we've been doing all along.
Get back to basics and quit ruinin' my day
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Amen, Brother!
You think you understand the regs and standards. What the best plants and biggest fleets are doing. Then a new INPO face swings by and declares "well, what I am used to seein is....."
Bingo. Instant change in standards. You get a PD or AFI. B.S.
dirac:
My point exactly. You dont place keep exactly the same way that some other plant does or you paperwork doesn't look the same and your INPO 3o r 4. However we got INPO 1 plants out there with operators unaware their rods whave been withdrawing for a minute. Can INPO not see the forest for the trees?
UncaBuffalo:
I'll start out by saying I like INPO better now than I did 10 years ago. It used to be a dumping ground for all the deadwood that plants needed to move out of managerial positions...now it seems to have a much larger contingent of motivated & competent individuals.
BUT, I do have my pet peeve with them...using personnel contaminations as a metric. What started out as a harmless number that looked like it would be easy to track has turned into a nightmare for the plants & industry.
1. Plants are going back to the bad-old-days way of doing Radiation Protection...respirators, plastics, OREX 'Ultra',...anything to stop a PerCon. So we are back to killing the worker with heat stress to avoid a little contamination. BAD science. Isn't that what the whole 'TEDE ALARA' thing was aimed at? We had proven that we were over-using respirators to avoid internal contamination (at the cost of injuries & fatalies due to the stress caused by said respirator), so the NRC made a new law that we had to use engineering controls, etc in lieu of respirators in most situations. Now we are back to 'Perception-Trumping-Science' RadCon again.
2. And, now that all the plants are tying their bonuses to the INPO metrics, some plants are starting to turn a blind eye to PerCons. Whenever pressure to meet a goal (and save a bonus), causes technicians or supervisors to chose malpractice over procedural compliance, it is a very bad thing. It's easy to rationalize that first babystep to the dark-side...we can all see that 100ccpm on a shoe wasn't a huge dose to the worker that needs to be captured. BUT, once you start to rationalize small violations, it is way too easy for things to snowball & soon you have wholesale malpractice.
2a. And, if some of the plants are radioing their PerCon numbers, that skews the averages & goals for the sites that are actually following the rules, so...?
JsonD13:
UncaBuffalo,
I totally agree. Dose is dose, if you get a lil spot of dirt on your arm or head or pants that is only 100ncpm it shouldnt matter. >10nCi uptake? Well what isotope was it so we can assign dose if needed.
I think where the plants get into trouble is defining their PerCon (and there are many, varying definitions used by plants out there, which may explain your radioing comment). I think it should be a PerCon if the worker recieved 1 mrem or greater. Clean em up otherwise so you dont let the small stuff out, but only count the contamination against you if your dosing them up.
But thinking that way isnt ALARA to some people ;-)
Jason
dirac:
--- Quote from: HydroDave63 on Aug 16, 2010, 10:36 ---So, I'm confused...you're mad because INPO didn't psychically sense that the CRD nozzles had issues (those cracks were found during inspections, not a boric acid snowman) , or are you concerned that as senior people having been in major utilities that there is ring-clinking going on, or that they don't hand out enough INPO 4s?
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Its not that they cpuldn't sense it. My understanding was they committed to a NEW head and instead turned around and got one form the scrap yards. You would think independent oversight orgs (and the NRC btw) would have caught on to this early on and raised the flag - they were probably too busy reviewing uniform and safety shoe policies.
I am also concerned about ring clinking. We all know utilities send there folks to INPO. What happens when the majoity come from someone like Enetrgy. How willing are they going to be throwing around INPO 3 and 4s and get all their buddies, and more importantly their bosses, fired. Maybe we should heed our countries founders and have equal representation - two per site or company - no matter how many units.
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