american nuclear power plants

[wlrun3@aol.com]

this book now exists...it's 104 pages, color photos, text, basic radiation protection problems and answers and a list of the best nuclear books...

american nuclear power plants

   history
      1942   CP1
      1951   EBR1
      1954   Atomic Energy Act
      1957   Shippingport
      1960   Dresden
      1969   Oyster Creek
      1979   TMI
      1996   Watts Bar

   plants
      104 Rx
       65 sites
       31states
       20 % usa electricity
            pwr's 69
               westinghouse   49
               ce                  13
               bw                   7
            bwr's 35
                mk 1              24
                mk 2               7
                mk 3               4

   radiation protection
      structure of the atom
      modes of decay
      ionization
      meters
      units
      scientific notation
      ten cfr twenty
      air samples
      radioactive decay

   radiation protection problems
  
   bibliography of the best nuclear books

wlrun3@aol.com

[IRLFAN]

Avaliable from...?

[wlrun3@aol.com]

this is still in paper....if enough interest is shown i'll use one of the self publishing companies and publish...it costs me $20 a copy for a spiral bound...it's popular at the plants and i usually make twenty copies at a time...i mail those copies...the bartlett office apparently likes them and uses them as a desk reference...let me know...

wlrun3@aol.com

[roadhp]

The Bunny has a point, to a point, but to get to the real point...

Having seen the book in question, it is a good read for those who haven't been everywhere and done everything.  wlrun3 has done his research, and while I have seen alot while being in this business, I did learn a few things that I didn't know, and for that I thank him for letting me see the book.  I would buy it, and if your listening, Bill, send me a copy.

[Creeker]

Wlrun.. Sign me up for a copy!

Creeker

[wlrun3@aol.com]

thankyou for the compliments...roadhp and creeker, will send books...email mailing address to wlrun3@aol.com

[ISOCS]

Sign me up. It sounds like what I need to teach nuclear history and create an interest in the technicians.
ISOCS

[wlrun3@aol.com]

thankyou...will send soon...please email your paper mail address to   wlrun3@aol.com   

[NJ]

This is great information!  Its put togeather well.  The instrument section and the math section really explains it better than I have ever seen.  Good job Bill and everyone needing help for the NUF should get a copy.   

[Rennhack]

We could always post the PDF version here, if you want Wlrun3.

[wlrun3@aol.com]

   I'ld love to Mike. Thankyou for asking but life problems, and you've had your share over the years, has left me with nothing but the paper color original. I'm sending you a copy Monday along with the dozen or so others I'll be sending to folks that have recently requested a copy.
   I leave Cook tonight and start Dresden for 4x84 hrs/wk on Wednesday. After that I'll attempt to get my act together, scan, edit, rewrite and hopefully donate to Nukeworker in PDF if you think it's worth the space.
   By the way, I counted four Nukeworker bumber stickers on I-80 on my way from Hanford to Cook. Congratulations.

  

[Rennhack]

   I'ld love to Mike. Thankyou for asking but life problems, and you've had your share over the years, has left me with nothing but the paper color original. I'm sending you a copy Monday along with the dozen or so others I'll be sending to folks that have recently requested a copy.
   I leave Cook tonight and start Dresden for 4x84 hrs/wk on Wednesday. After that I'll attempt to get my act together, scan, edit, rewrite and hopefully donate to Nukeworker in PDF if you think it's worth the space.
   By the way, I counted four Nukeworker bumber stickers on I-80 on my way from Hanford to Cook. Congratulations.

The bumper sticker thing is cool!

I can always scan the hard copy you send me into pdf, and send it to you.

[HydroDave63]

The bumper sticker thing is cool!

I didn't see any bumper stickers in the Shop section, where can they be purchased??

[Rennhack]

Well, we have NukeWorker stickers... that people put on their bumpers....  but no official rectangular sticker.

I do have a lot of the 'New NukeWorker Guy' stickers, but I haven't taken pictures of them, or added them to the online store.  I am out of the old orange stickers.  If you order the old ones, you will get the new ones.

[HydroDave63]

Well, we have NukeWorker stickers... that people put on their bumpers....  but no official rectangular sticker.

I do have a lot of the 'New NukeWorker Guy' stickers, but I haven't taken pictures of them, or added them to the online store.  I am out of the old orange stickers.  If you order the old ones, you will get the new ones.

Would it be kosher to freelance a Nukeworker.com sticker oneself?

[Rennhack]

Would it be kosher to freelance a Nukeworker.com sticker oneself?

You bet.  As long as it's not for profit.

[HydroDave63]

You bet.  As long as it's not for profit.

I shall observe the 57th Rule of Acquisition!

[Rennhack]

I shall observe the 57th Rule of Acquisition!

57th Rule: "Good customers are as rare as latinum. Treausre them." ("Armageddon Game" [DS9])

How does that relate here?  I like the 76th RoA, but 285th RoA is probably the one I quote the most.

[HydroDave63]

57th Rule: "Good customers are as rare as latinum. Treausre them." ("Armageddon Game" [DS9])

How does that relate here?  I like the 76th RoA, but 285th RoA is probably the one I quote the most.

It was precisely the obtuse nature of it, that caused you to look it up!

[Rennhack]

It was precisely the obtuse nature of it, that caused you to look it up!

Turns out there is a book about it, which I just got for my Kindle.

[Rennhack]

Which revison of #285?

"No good deed ever goes unpunished."

- or -

"A good deed is its own reward."

That one.

[wlrun3@aol.com]

I can always scan the hard copy you send me into pdf, and send it to you.
[/quote]

Mike,
   Please email your email address to  wlrun3@aol.com  so I can send the PDF copy of "American Nuclear Power Plants".

[retread]

Turns out there is a book about it, which I just got for my Kindle.

 

Bad Rennhack, bad!

[wlrun3@aol.com]

I apologize to all who expected a copy of "American Nuclear Power Plants" in the mail. A serious family emergency has put this project on hold.

[Nuclear NASCAR]

I apologize to all who expected a copy of "American Nuclear Power Plants" in the mail. A serious family emergency has put this project on hold.

As it should.  I have no doubt it will be worth the wait, and nobody will worry about that wait.   

[wlrun3@aol.com]

This book is available in pdf at:

americannuclearpowerplants.com

[Rennhack]

Thank you for sharing.

[wlrun3@aol.com]

Wouldn't have been possible to share without you and what you've accomplished here.

[Laundry Man]

Thanks Bill.  Looking forward to reading it.
LM

[wlrun3@aol.com]

Advice for revision of this book would be more than welcome.

[jams723]

Advice for revision of this book would be more than welcome.

You should revise the section on Watts Bar unit 2 as TVA is in the process of completing construction and they are back to working towards completing Bellefonte.

[wlrun3@aol.com]

Will do...thankyou.

[wlrun3@aol.com]

What is between the sub pile room floor and the metal bottom of the drywell in a Mk 1 BWR?

[Rennhack]

What is between the sub pile room floor and the metal bottom of the drywell in a Mk 1 BWR?

Love?

[wlrun3@aol.com]

   http://mdn.mainichi.jp/mdnnews/news/20111130p2g00m0dm147000c.html  

A statement in the comment section of an ancient survey of the anteroom at the end of the tunnel to beneath the stack at bldg 771 at Rocky Flats said "My God, it's full of stars."

It wasn't.

[matthew.b]

What is between the sub pile room floor and the metal bottom of the drywell in a Mk 1 BWR?

In the case of Fukishima there is 7.6m of concrete:

In Japanese:

http://mainichi.jp/select/today/news/20111201k0000m040066000c.html

Bablefish translated

http://babelfish.yahoo.com/translate_url?doit=done&tt=url&intl=1&fr=bf-home&trurl=http%3A%2F%2Fmainichi.jp%2Fselect%2Ftoday%2Fnews%2F20111201k0000m040066000c.html&lp=ja_en&btnTrUrl=Translate

[wlrun3@aol.com]

Thankyou

If uncooled, could melted fuel exit the reactor building by passing through the torus, torus room wall and then the reactor building wall?

[Higgs]

this book now exists...it's 104 pages, color photos, text, basic radiation protection problems and answers and a list of the best nuclear books...

american nuclear power plants

   history
      1942   CP1
      1951   EBR1
      1954   Atomic Energy Act
      1957   Shippingport
      1960   Dresden
      1969   Oyster Creek
      1979   TMI
      1996   Watts Bar

   plants
      104 Rx
       65 sites
       33 states
       20 % usa electricity
            pwr's 69
               westinghouse   49
               ce                  13
               bw                   7
            bwr's 35
                mk 1              24
                mk 2               7
                mk 3               4

   radiation protection
      structure of the atom
      modes of decay
      ionization
      meters
      units
      scientific notation
      ten cfr twenty
      air samples
      radioactive decay

   radiation protection problems
   
   bibliography of the best nuclear books

wlrun3@aol.com

I just saw this thread, not sure how I missed it before.

What about Peach Bottom Unit 1 experimental high temp gas cooled reactor?

http://www.nrc.gov/info-finder/decommissioning/power-reactor/peach-bottom-atomic-power-station-unit.html

[wlrun3@aol.com]

I have admired the quality of your posts.

The book started as a Commercial Nuclear Power Plant Contract RP study guide many years ago.

I was then asked about the design differences relative to RP job coverage; B&W vs Westinghouse steam generators...Mk 1 vs Mk 3 reactor buildings, drywells and refuel floors...etc.

I was then asked how all this came about.
 
So the book is limited to operating American Nuclear Power Plants, 10 CFR 20 / NRC Radiation Protection and a brief history of the origins and progression of the existing light water plants.

It is intended to be the simple introduction to the industry that I wish I had been provided with when I started.

I believe it is unique and serves a much needed purpose.

I enjoyed reading the beautiful bronze plaque in the breezeway outside the training building commemorating Peach Bottom 1.

   americannuclearpowerplants.co m     

[Higgs]

Gotcha! Very well done indeed!

[wlrun3@aol.com]

"The melted core material did not even get close to exiting the container that was designed to retain it. And this was a case where the reactor was operating at full power and then lost all cooling within a few minutes. It is hard to get much worse than that."

"...in the worst case that TEPCO is describing, by its own data, the core material may have melted only about as much as 5% of the distance to the grade."

  http://atomicinsights.com/2011/12/more-accurate-headline-would-be-fukushima-containment-worked.html  

Fukashima 1 is a BWR 3 in a Mk 1 Rx Bldg.

The only US plants of this design are Quad Cities 1&2, Dresden 1&2, Pilgrim and Monticello.

[a|F]

If uncooled, could melted fuel exit the reactor building by passing through the torus, torus room wall and then the reactor building wall?

You may be able to get fission products in the torus, but fuel would have a hard time getting there.  The bottom of the drywell catches anything that might melt through the reactor vessel.  After that, the last line of defense is the concrete structure the plant is built on.  This saved Fukushima from the "China Syndrome".   

"The melted core material did not even get close to exiting the container that was designed to retain it. And this was a case where the reactor was operating at full power and then lost all cooling within a few minutes. It is hard to get much worse than that."

"...in the worst case that TEPCO is describing, by its own data, the core material may have melted only about as much as 5% of the distance to the grade."

Interesting choice of words here.  The container designed to hold the "melted material" is the reactor pressure vessel.  That failed as well as the drywell- the "containment". 

Tepco's data is updated infrequently and they have yet to provide conservative estimates of the damage.  It's always the same:  "we were so lucky xyz didn't happen."  Tell that to the thousands that may never return to their homes.   

[wlrun3@aol.com]

  http://atomicinsights.com/2011/12/more-accurate-headline-would-be-fukushima-containment-worked.html  

Fukashima 1 is a BWR 3 in a Mk 1 Rx Bldg.

The only US plants of this design are Quad Cities 1&2, Dresden 1&2, Pilgrim and Monticello.

[wlrun3@aol.com]

[matthew.b]

  http://atomicinsights.com/2011/12/more-accurate-headline-would-be-fukushima-containment-worked.html  

Fukashima 1 is a BWR 3 in a Mk 1 Rx Bldg.

The only US plants of this design are Quad Cities 1&2, Dresden 1&2, Pilgrim and Monticello.

Don't BWR 3's have a mix of isolation condensers and RCIC?

Had the IC stayed in use, unit 1 likely would have been the least damaged unit.  It would have been quite easy for a fire truck to keep up with the evaporation rate.

[wlrun3@aol.com]

 "For about 1 hour after the earthquake and the loss of offsite electrical power, the emergency diesel generators (EDGs) were operating and providing electrical power to the systems for decay heat removal. At about that time, the tsunami struck the site and the EDGs stopped working. This was likely due to the failure of the fuel supply to the EDGs. With the loss of the EDGs, cooling to the fuel in the core was being provided by the reactor core isolation cooling (RCIC) system.
The RCIC system uses steam generated in the reactor from the decay heat to power a turbine driven pump. The pump is supplied with water initially from a condensate storage tank (CST). The water for the CST is injected into the core through the feedwater line. Once the CST is drained, the suction of the RCIC pump is switched to the suppression pool where there is another large source of water. It appears that this system provided decay heat removal for about 7 hours after the reactors where shutdown following the earthquake. Typically, electrical power for the motor operated valves is provided by onsite batteries."

How would/does the isolation condenser in bwr 2s & 3s work. Is it direct vent to outside?

[matthew.b]

How would/does the isolation condenser in bwr 2s & 3s work. Is it direct vent to outside?

Yep, they have a large vent to the roof of the reactor building. 

[Laundry Man]

Or as in the case of Oyster Creek, they exit the side of the building facing Route 9.
LM

[Wlrun3]

I was asked by Mike what happened to the website, "American Nuclear Power Plants" where my book of the same title is located.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/qh187z2bld1gxiz/American%20Nuclear%20Power%20Plants.pdf