Physical Readiness [PRT] Resource

[730SMAG]

Add a few more alcoholics plus a few obsessive boat goat chasers and less aquarium people and you got a carrier too.

This pretty well hit the nail on the head. Good Post!

I figured 6/28 was a good ratio for alcoholics; can't forget that if you enlist at 18, you'll be on board for almost a year before you can drink.  Half your time in the Navy, spent without the soothing succor of alcohol to wipe away the horror.  Not to mention the non-drinkers, and the amateur drinkers.  Damned casuals, inflating our alcohol consumption statistics with their one beer with dinner.

[Cycoticpenguin]

I figured 6/28 was a good ratio for alcoholics; can't forget that if you enlist at 18, you'll be on board for almost a year before you can drink.  Half your time in the Navy, spent without the soothing succor of alcohol to wipe away the horror.  Not to mention the non-drinkers, and the amateur drinkers.  Damned casuals, inflating our alcohol consumption statistics with their one beer with dinner.

dude we're totally going to hang out. Just dont spike my drink and we're all good

[730SMAG]

dude we're totally going to hang out. Just dont spike my drink and we're all good

Everclear is not spiking.  It's fortifying.  A little bit of buckshot to stiffen the spit you call a drink.

[GNowakowski]

Your opinion of the military is grossly ignorant dude. Your opinion of nukes is also ignorant. How many nukes were on the strike team that killed osama? How many nukes are on the ground dodging bullets and IED's? more important? No. More skilled/rare? yes.

Well, I'm doing my part to educate myself as best as I can.
How many?  Good question - there haven't been any details on how they got to the Persian Gulf released.. They may have had a carrier rendezvous. 

I'm just old enough to know there are jobs to take care of every part.  In boxing, the fist is extremely important, there can be no victory without them - and yet its your kidneys which you must stand so ready to protect.  I don't view your IED and Ground dodgers to be any more or less "important" as far as jobs go - however it is MORE important that those who can fill the roll of the kidney's do so; they are rare and must keep the fighter upright.

If you have some predetermined act or speech you want to use to vanquish my ignorance - I welcome it.

[Cycoticpenguin]

If you have some predetermined act or speech you want to use to vanquish my ignorance - I welcome it.

simple. You are ignorant until you are out in the fleet for a couple years. Then you will finally understand. Until then, all the research in the world will not prepare you. You have better things to do, like enjoying time with friends, and enjoying hobbies. While admirable, its not the most useful of things dude.

[spekkio]

These are the types of things that make me wonder.  The only reason I don't want to be a seal; I don't want to know I'm that kind of a machine.  A nuke - well, it seems more important to be honest.  Especially in a nation still awaiting its "Nuclear Renaissance".

This is a bit misplaced in a couple of respects.

Nukes provide the propulsion that allows carriers to strike anywhere in the world in a day or two, and the ability for submarines to have nearly unlimited endurance. While that is an important aspect of our overall defensive capabilities, their importance diminishes as we require minimal collateral damage and civilian casualties in ground wars, some of which are in land-locked countries like Afghanistan. Therefore, most of the direct fight against terrorism is being provided by ground units. To say that nukes are "more important" than a community who just killed the terrorist mastermind behind 9/11 without the help of nuclear power during the mission is a bit, well, misplaced. Just prior to 9/11, there were serious talks and plans being put into place to reduce the size of the carrier fleet from 11 to 9. I'm not privy to information to know how many we actually need to defend our sovereignty, but some people in the federal government apparently think that 11 is too many.

Secondly, the US is not likely to have a "Nuclear Renaissance" anytime soon. Why? Because nuclear power is less economical than gasoline or coal power, and will continue to be for the foreseeable future. The cost of building and operating a commercial nuclear plant is enormous, and grows exponentially as you have to implement a ton of zero defect controls, quadruple safeguards, and highly trained operators to ensure that reactor accidents like TMI and Japan are 100% prevented by inherent design and operation. Additionally, only approximately 1% of commercial power plants use oil as a power source, so nuclear power isn't a panacea for energy independence, either.

See: http://reason.com/archives/2011/03/25/the-truth-about-nuclear-power

PS: While your head was in the right place by trying to be helpful, a simple google of "Navy PRT" could've yielded all the information you posted in your OP, and without so much effort on your part.

[GNowakowski]

I didn't create this thread with any thought of defending my thoughts on the merits of Nuclear power.

Nukes provide the propulsion that allows carriers to strike anywhere in the world in a day or two, and the ability for submarines to have nearly unlimited endurance. While that is an important aspect of our overall defensive capabilities, their importance diminishes as we require minimal collateral damage and civilian casualties in ground wars, some of which are in land-locked countries like Afghanistan. Therefore, most of the direct fight against terrorism is being provided by ground units. To say that nukes are "more important" than a community who just killed the terrorist mastermind behind 9/11 without the help of nuclear power during the mission is a bit, well, misplaced. Just prior to 9/11, there were serious talks and plans being put into place to reduce the size of the carrier fleet from 11 to 9. I'm not privy to information to know how many we actually need to defend our sovereignty, but some people in the federal government apparently think that 11 is too many.

and so you can enjoy the protagonist seat.

PS: While your head was in the right place by trying to be helpful, a simple google of "Navy PRT" could've yielded all the information you posted in your OP, and without so much effort on your part.

Thats entirely accurate; there was in all actuality very little effort and I won't apologize for exerting it.  Organizing links together and explaining the usefulness behind them - is something I do for myself so that later I may find anything that peaks my interest.  In all its peculiarity I actually enjoy information, and having an organized, centralized index is a great time saver.

Taking a few minutes to type up a post, from a congregation of assets spurs little suffering on my part.  Perhaps it'll be useful in this forum when the "search" function is prescribed to new users.  At which point, the information, and my organization of it; is suddenly valuable to more than just myself alone.

Perhaps it'll never be used, and I've wasted a few precious moments? - - Then I've only gained the wisdom protracted from the responses, of elders in a system I long to be a part of.  Its seldom that honest beginnings, honest effort, and honest conclusion create negative things (although I don't deny it does happen).

You have my best wishes.


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I did my first day of the Seal Workout "Cat II" and I'm feeling it...its left me more soar than I've been in awhile.  I have a feeling this is a method that can be sworn by.
My hike today whooped my ass! I did the Avalanche Lake trail, which is roughly 3 miles there, 3 miles back.  So I didn't hit my 7.5 mile goal, but at over 5,000 ft. at the base... I think its probably o.k.

[Cycoticpenguin]

Your grammar sucks. You are destined for nuke-dom. 

"Piques"
"Sore"


No one is knocking your efforts dude, we're merely saying you should be out doing other things. We all appreciate it, don't get me wrong. Helping others is a great trait to have, nothing wrong with that!

Go shoot guns and do your workouts, hang out with friends and family, barring that go spend some quality time with yourself Don't worry about the nav,they have a habit of doing what they want anyway. You will do just fine.

[HydroDave63]

I didn't create this thread with any thought of defending my thoughts on the merits of Nuclear power. and so you can enjoy the protagonist seat.

You are surviving your Close Encounter of the Khaki-Clad Clown kind well, recruit

[drayer54]

Your grammar sucks. You are destined for nuke-dom. 

Hard to argue that.

Go shoot guns and do your workouts, hang out with friends and family, barring that go spend some quality time with yourself Don't worry about the nav,they have a habit of doing what they want anyway. You will do just fine.

You have a handle on this about as well as anyone to enter basic in a long time. You don't need to be doing seal workouts and trying to learn advancement gouge now. You need to be out going to concerts, enjoying the local girls, drinking yourself silly, and whatever it is you Montana types do to the bears. Seriously, enjoy your last bit of freedom and get out more.  You will do fine and when you get there we can reiterate our advice to not touch the nuke girls and study alot. Now go have some fun. 

[730SMAG]

I'll just follow up on the same thing, really.


Boot camp is a joke, physically speaking.  If you're of even average physical health, you'll do fine.  And you should be able to pull an adequate PRT score as long as you maintain that adequate physical health.  It's not really worth worrying about.  Good to see you're one of the New Generation Navy, though, with your high PRT scores.  Me, I was a minimalist 60/60/12:00 sailor, because there was no benefit for me, on the time-cost-return scale, to do better on a PRT.  Doing 60/60/12:00 cost me five hours a week - one hour of PT per day - to maintain.  Improving would have doubled the time requirement, which was not worth it to me - I had liberty to be concerned about.  And yes, in the pipeline, you worry about five hours a week.  That's five hours of extra sleep, or a trip to the beach, or a couple movies.  Anything to get you away from Rickover's Party Palace.  And that five hours is even more important in the fleet, unless you just enjoy PT, in which case you can PT all you want.  I'd rather be playing paintball.

You know what I did before boot camp?  Drank, partied, went to classes (Occasionally.  There is a reason I wound up in the Navy instead of getting a degree the first time in college...), screwed around with my girlfriend, anything but actually give a damn about the Navy.  Once you hit boot, your ability to have unrestricted, unconcerned fun stops.  Because then the watching starts.  If you're underage, in the words of my skipper, "Don't get caught drinking."  If you're of age, but drunk, "Don't get caught driving."  Random piss tests.  Moments where you're gonna look at a situation and think, "My career or my buddies?"  So, like everyone else is saying, go out and enjoy things.  

[spekkio]

I didn't create this thread with any thought of defending my thoughts on the merits of Nuclear power. and so you can enjoy the protagonist seat.

Then you should avoid making statements that say that nuclear propulsion is more important than special warfare.

Thats entirely accurate; there was in all actuality very little effort and I won't apologize for exerting it.  Organizing links together and explaining the usefulness behind them - is something I do for myself so that later I may find anything that peaks my interest.  In all its peculiarity I actually enjoy information, and having an organized, centralized index is a great time saver.

Taking a few minutes to type up a post, from a congregation of assets spurs little suffering on my part.  Perhaps it'll be useful in this forum when the "search" function is prescribed to new users.  At which point, the information, and my organization of it; is suddenly valuable to more than just myself alone.

Perhaps it'll never be used, and I've wasted a few precious moments? - - Then I've only gained the wisdom protracted from the responses, of elders in a system I long to be a part of.  Its seldom that honest beginnings, honest effort, and honest conclusion create negative things (although I don't deny it does happen).

You have my best wishes.

Like I said, your heart is in the right place by trying to help people, but you're missing the forest for the trees. The Navy already put together an easy-to-navigate website that allows people to find out all the requirements for the PRT; all you did was post multiple links to it. There are also thousands of websites on the web with workout advice, and they all work as long as people are willing to put in the long-term effort to maintain it. If you found one that works particularly well for you, great, then share it. Additionally, bear in mind that you're on a site with a bunch of nukes, most of whom don't care about PRT performance beyond obtaining the sat-medium category, which is extremely easy to obtain with minimal effort. The only thing that goes on a Navy eval is whether or not you passed, so that's all most Sailors care about.

[GNowakowski]

Then you should avoid making statements that say that nuclear propulsion is more important than special warfare. Like I said, your heart is in the right place by trying to help people, but you're missing the forest for the trees. The Navy already put together an easy-to-navigate website that allows people to find out all the requirements for the PRT; all you did was post multiple links to it. There are also thousands of websites on the web with workout advice, and they all work as long as people are willing to put in the long-term effort to maintain it. If you found one that works particularly well for you, great, then share it. Additionally, bear in mind that you're on a site with a bunch of nukes, most of whom don't care about PRT performance beyond obtaining the sat-medium category, which is extremely easy to obtain with minimal effort. The only thing that goes on a Navy eval is whether or not you passed, so that's all most Sailors care about.

You need to have a meeting with yourself about your abrasive approach.  Your a knowledgeable, likable guy outside of your stir all for an argument approach.

"All you did was"...

Thats entirely accurate; there was in all actuality very little effort and I won't apologize for exerting it.  Organizing links together and explaining the usefulness behind them - is something I do for myself so that later I may find anything that peaks my interest.  In all its peculiarity I actually enjoy information, and having an organized, centralized index is a great time saver.

You have my best wishes.

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I did my first day of the Seal Workout "Cat II" and I'm feeling it...its left me more soar than I've been in awhile. I have a feeling this is a method that can be sworn by.

That should sum that up.  Back to my former post on the Seal workout...I can really feel it today.  Feels good.

First Week Goals:
Running: 3 / 5 / 4 / 5 / 2 miles, Mo/Tu/We/Fr/Sa
Pushups: 6 sets of 30 pushups, Mon/Wed/Fri
Situps: 6 sets of 35 situps, Mon/Wed/Fri
Pullups: 3 sets of 8 pullups, Mon/Wed/Fri *
Dips: 3 sets of 17 dips, Mon/Wed/Fri *
**7.5+ mi. Hike Tu/Thur/Sun  Opted for Mon/We/Fri

My final set of pushups I felt really good still - so I elevated my feet to give myself a bit more challenge.   I did pull off pullups in 10-10-8  - I assumed I wouldn't be able to break 8.  Dips were as I figured 17-17-and a hard fought 17.

You need to be out going to concerts, enjoying the local girls, drinking yourself silly, and whatever it is you Montana types do to the bears.

I pulled out the old BB gun today and was tearing some beer cans apart. Concerts? You haven't been to Montana much... I'm a fanatic chess player.. it dominates a lot of my time, and always has.  I appreciate you looking out for my interests.  Your painting a picture I'm beginning to grasp - It sounds like a ton of "hurry up and wait"  "meet this ever shifting deadline" "Follow these black and white rules - while serving in a grey area" type environment. 

I'll drop by nightly still - but for the love of my last post, it might be awhile before I share anymore of my Gnote's with the forum.