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« Reply #125 on: Sep 11, 2010, 07:28 »
if you work for a certain contractor at oconee any period of time and do them a good job they will repay you by destroying your life.
« Last Edit: Sep 11, 2010, 07:33 by done wrong »

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Re: atlantic sux
« Reply #126 on: Sep 11, 2010, 09:40 »
if you work for a certain contractor at oconee any period of time and do them a good job they will repay you by destroying your life.

Perhaps you would care to elaborate?
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Re: DZ Atlantic Group
« Reply #127 on: Sep 13, 2010, 04:51 »
i got let go after 4 yrs of continuous service because i moved to a trailer for 4 months and then back to the apartment right before i got a letter saying i had to requalify for my perdeim they didny like it made up stupid excuses to let me go they are trying to rid all of workers who get perdeim i cant even get no answers back from norfolk where i sent everything for them to look at said they would let me know something havent heard from them dont even know if i can work anywhere nuclear again does anybody know how to check on your clearance.

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Re: DZ Atlantic Group
« Reply #128 on: Sep 13, 2010, 05:46 »
I was at Catawba last spring and it was common knowledge DZ was being audited by Duke Power about Per Diem

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« Reply #129 on: Sep 13, 2010, 09:22 »
i got let go after 4 yrs of continuous service because i moved to a trailer for 4 months and then back to the apartment right before i got a letter saying i had to requalify for my perdeim they didny like it made up stupid excuses to let me go they are trying to rid all of workers who get perdeim i cant even get no answers back from norfolk where i sent everything for them to look at said they would let me know something havent heard from them dont even know if i can work anywhere nuclear again does anybody know how to check on your clearance.

Is that 4 years continuous service in one location?  If yes, then you were not eligible for PD.

They let you go for living in a trailer?  Hell, looks like no Arkansas resident need apply.

Contract companies really do not care if you receive PD.  PD is directly billed to the client.  The contract employer does not (typically) mark-up PD billing invoices.  The client may have said we will not reimburse PD expenses.  You may be mad at the wrong folks.

Watch your double negatives.

Even if you were terminated because you moved into a trailer for 4 months, I doubt that is reason to deny you UA.

But, I may be wrong (dang, if I don't just love that disclaimer).

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Re: DZ Atlantic Group
« Reply #130 on: Sep 13, 2010, 11:09 »
PD is directly billed to the client.  The contract employer does not (typically) mark-up PD billing invoices.

Typically that is true (I think big blue just passes it through) Some other companies add a very very small carrying cost fee (1-3%), because they have to borrow that money from the bank to pay you weekly, then wait 3 months to get their invoice paid.  The costs in fronting that money can really add up.

I'm surprised this guy got fired for living in a trailer.... Gets never got fired for living in his car... or did he?

So, was the trailer a mobile home, or a trailer in the parking lot?

(Who me? Off-topic?)
« Last Edit: Sep 14, 2010, 07:13 by Rennhack »

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Re: DZ Atlantic Group
« Reply #131 on: Sep 13, 2010, 11:53 »
Typically that is true (I think big blue just passes it through) Some other companies add a very very small carrying cost fee (1-3%), because they have to borrow that money from the bank to pay you weekly, then wait 3 months to get their invoice paid.  The costs in fronting that money can really add up.

I'm surprised this guy got fired for living in a trailer.... Gets never got fired for living in his car... or did he?

So, was the trailer a mobile home, or a trailer in the parking lot?

(Who me? Off-topic?)

I'd hate to see you go to off-topic hell by your lonesome...thanks for the confirmation...typically speaking that is



Contract companies really do not care if you receive PD.  PD is directly billed to the client.  The contract employer does not (typically) mark-up PD billing invoices.  The client may have said we will not reimburse PD expenses.

« Last Edit: Sep 14, 2010, 07:14 by Rennhack »

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Re: DZ Atlantic Group
« Reply #132 on: Sep 14, 2010, 03:41 »
My company does not mark up per diem or any other expense.  Maybe we ought to look into that at some point, but even with a markup, we wouldn't be making a profit on them anyway.

We do charge our customers per diem and some other travel and living expenses, but only for those who are eligible.  If you are local to the site, we would get into trouble with the IRS, the customers, our parent company, and probably a few other people.  If we charge a customer for expenses that the employee is not entitled to - even though we pay every penny of it to the employee - the customer will refuse to pay us, and could terminate our contract.  Four years at one site is definitely one where we could not pay per diem, but once or twice a year (a few weeks at a time) for several years would be different.
Changing your address does not necessarily change your tax home.  But, if you moved your entire household to a trailer that was local to the work site, you may have established that site as your tax home.  In which case, taking per diem would be against the tax regs.
Really, if you are at the same site full-time for four years, it doesn't matter where you lay your head -- you shouldn't be getting per diem.
Too many of my fellow nuke workers are permanently addicted to per diem, which is meant to be temporary.

I can't say for sure that such a thing would disqualify you from unescorted access, but I can say that is has been denied for people who had things on their credit report from the IRS.  Heck, they can deny it if you paid your Visa Card late.

I have had my expense reports audited with a microscope.  It isn't fun.  What is even less fun is trying to explain to my customer why I allowed a dishonest employee to claim reimbursements that he wasn't entitled to.  Even if I catch it before they do, it still gets that employee's stink all over me and my company.  Then, that employee will undoubtedly come here and tell everyone on NukeWorker how we ruined his life.
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Re: DZ Atlantic Group
« Reply #133 on: Sep 14, 2010, 04:01 »
Then, that employee will undoubtedly come here and tell everyone on NukeWorker how we ruined his life.

« Last Edit: Sep 14, 2010, 04:03 by Fluffy Bunny »
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Re: DZ Atlantic Group
« Reply #134 on: Sep 15, 2010, 09:53 »
I"m trying to stay out of the drama on this web site,but I just want to comment on a earlier post. I don't think living in Arkansas had a thing to do with this subject.

From a poor a-- country boy who lives in a trailer and just happens to be in ARKANSAS/Ha!! Ha!!
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Re: DZ Atlantic Group
« Reply #135 on: Sep 15, 2010, 10:08 »
I"m trying to stay out of the drama on this web site,but I just want to comment on a earlier post. I don't think living in Arkansas had a thing to do with this subject.

I'm sure we all agree with you.  I think the earlier posters were just trying to have a little fun, and didn't intend for it to be a legitimate talking point.

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Re: DZ Atlantic Group
« Reply #136 on: Sep 15, 2010, 10:42 »
I know I'm always getting pick at about the Arkansas thing and it's all good!! we have to enjoy a little instructive fun time to time and on the drama thing. Thats due to my past getting to caught up in drama that I shouldn't have. Life's so good
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Re: DZ Atlantic Group
« Reply #137 on: Sep 15, 2010, 12:04 »
I know I'm always getting pick at about the Arkansas thing and it's all good!! we have to enjoy a little instructive fun time to time and on the drama thing. Thats due to my past getting to caught up in drama that I shouldn't have. Life's so good


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Re: DZ Atlantic Group
« Reply #138 on: Sep 15, 2010, 05:55 »
 [OT]

What does an Arkansas divorce have in common with a Tornado?

In both cases, somebody is about to lose a trailer...

We now return you to our regularly scheduled topic... which we lost quite a while ago.
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Re: DZ Atlantic Group
« Reply #139 on: Sep 30, 2010, 03:58 »
Now THAT is funny  :P  +K

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« Reply #140 on: Sep 30, 2010, 04:21 »
Last time I worked for them they didn't believe in paying for holidays.  (Hmmm,  :-\ I wonder if they still billed the utility for them though.)

They also told me once that my rate of pay was such that my overtime was to be paid as straight time.  I countered with their initial verbal offer, and the acceptance agreement form I had signed, stated time and a half for overtime.  When we looked it up I was right so they told me that was obviously a mistake and I was to be paid straight time for all hours worked.  I said it might be a mistake, but I didn't make it and expected them to keep their end of the agreement.  After a lot of other back and forth discussions they finally agreed that that's what they would pay.

Would I work for them again?  Sure.  They were up front with the no holiday pay so as long as it's identified and agreed upon in the beginning I have no problems with it.  Just make sure they don't try and change horses on you downstream.
You'd work for a company again that wanted to pay you straight wages for overtime hours? And people wonder why this industry went in the crapper 15-20 years ago...

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« Reply #141 on: Sep 30, 2010, 10:54 »
You'd work for a company again that wanted to pay you straight wages for overtime hours? And people wonder why this industry went in the crapper 15-20 years ago...

ST wages for OT hours is not such a bitter pill to swallow when your ST rate is treble the prevailing wages.

But then again, I may be right.


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« Reply #142 on: Oct 01, 2010, 08:14 »
ST wages for OT hours is not such a bitter pill to swallow when your ST rate is treble the prevailing wages.

But then again, I may be right.


Exactly  +K.  I previously worked a job out of the country where my pay rate was such that all hours worked were at a straight rate.  That was our deal up front and I had no problem with it. 

The job with DZ Atlantic was as a Rad Eng and the pay rate was comparable to what I had been paid in Canada.  The difference was this time they had told me they would pay me time and a half for overtime.  That was our deal (and signed agreement), so when they tried to back out of it I wouldn't let them and made them pay me time and a half when appropriate.  Would I work for them again.  I already have.  They come up with the money and a position I want and I'll take a job with them. Just make sure what your deal is up front and don't let them bluff you out of it later.  :)
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« Reply #143 on: Oct 03, 2010, 12:52 »
ST wages for OT hours is not such a bitter pill to swallow when your ST rate is treble the prevailing wages.

But then again, I may be right.


I don't think you are. $30.00 dollars an hour give or take a couple bucks is the prevailing wage for most jobs right now. I believe you meant to write triple, not treble, prevailing wages. And nobody is getting 90 bucks an hour to swing a meter in this country. Nobody. Most "house " jobs pay $35-40/hr.

Look, pill swallowing aside, there are state and federal laws which dictate when and if overtime is to be paid. Nearly all the time, at least time and a half is to paid. According to the US Dept of Labor, Wage and Hour Divsion, "You must be paid 1.5 times your basic rate of pay for all hours worked over 40 in a week. There are some exceptions." 99.97% of the time an hourly worker won't fall under the exceptions. We're not talkling about salaried or exempt folks here so let's get that out of the way right now. This is about hourly craft workers performing a trade. The Walsh-Healey Public Contracts Act states, "Covered workers must be paid at least one and one-half times their basic rate of pay for all hours worked in excess of 40 a week..." I could go on and on but I won't.

Bottom line, if technicians are getting paid straight wages for overtime, your company loves you. Because they're billing the client time and a half and paying you straight, and will be perceived as someone they can get one over on. The person who started this thread got his (or her) premium pay because that's the law, and the company knew it.

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« Reply #144 on: Oct 04, 2010, 12:22 »
I don't think you are. $30.00 dollars an hour give or take a couple bucks is the prevailing wage for most jobs right now. I believe you meant to write triple, not treble, prevailing wages. And nobody is getting 90 bucks an hour to swing a meter in this country. Nobody. Most "house " jobs pay $35-40/hr.

Look, pill swallowing aside, there are state and federal laws which dictate when and if overtime is to be paid. Nearly all the time, at least time and a half is to paid. According to the US Dept of Labor, Wage and Hour Divsion, "You must be paid 1.5 times your basic rate of pay for all hours worked over 40 in a week. There are some exceptions." 99.97% of the time an hourly worker won't fall under the exceptions. We're not talkling about salaried or exempt folks here so let's get that out of the way right now. This is about hourly craft workers performing a trade. The Walsh-Healey Public Contracts Act states, "Covered workers must be paid at least one and one-half times their basic rate of pay for all hours worked in excess of 40 a week..." I could go on and on but I won't.

Bottom line, if technicians are getting paid straight wages for overtime, your company loves you. Because they're billing the client time and a half and paying you straight, and will be perceived as someone they can get one over on. The person who started this thread got his (or her) premium pay because that's the law, and the company knew it.


Sorry, didn't realize the discussion was limited to "meter swingers."  For the past 20 (+/-) years I have beed paid straight wages for my 'OT' hours.  Some assignments were as a salaried employee, most as an hourly employee.  I accept this situation because my hourly wage is high enough to more than compensate for the loss of 1-1/2 times ST rate for OT hours.  The 10 years before that was mostly 1-1/2 for OT, I like the situation I have now much better.

BTW, I meant to write treble, not triple.  I'll save you the trouble of looking it up:

tre·ble   /ˈtrɛbəl/ [treb-uhl] 
adjective, noun, verb, -bled, -bling. 
–adjective
1. threefold; triple.
2. Music .
a. of or pertaining to the highest part in harmonized music; soprano.
b. of the highest pitch or range, as a voice part, voice, singer, or instrument.
c. high in pitch; shrill.
–noun
3. Music .
a. the treble or soprano part.
b. a treble voice, singer, or instrument.
4. a high or shrill voice or sound.
5. the highest-pitched peal of a bell.
–verb (used with object), verb (used without object)
6. to make or become three times as much or as many; triple.

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Re: DZ Atlantic Group
« Reply #145 on: Oct 04, 2010, 08:20 »
BTW, I meant to write treble, not triple.  I'll save you the trouble of looking it up:

tre·ble   /ˈtrɛbəl/ [treb-uhl] 
1. threefold; triple.
6. to make or become three times as much or as many; triple.

Like a treble hook.

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Re: DZ Atlantic Group
« Reply #146 on: Oct 04, 2010, 10:05 »
The trouble with trebles is,..... :P :P :P :P :P :P :P

I think You mean: "The Trouble With Tribbles"

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Re: DZ Atlantic Group
« Reply #147 on: Oct 04, 2010, 10:19 »
This time it isn't sleep.  It's a cold.

Cold?  It isn't even November yet.  But, it is always something isn't it?


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Re: DZ Atlantic Group
« Reply #148 on: Oct 06, 2010, 02:09 »
It's always cold in Humboldt... why do you think I wear long johns everyday (two sets starting soon) :D

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Re: DZ Atlantic Group
« Reply #149 on: Oct 06, 2010, 02:27 »
It's always cold in Humboldt... why do you think I wear long johns everyday (two sets starting soon) :D

Humboldt ain't cold....the banana slugs do just fine without long johns or fur! Must be something about eating the local foliage that keeps the locals warm ;)

 


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