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Re: Fukushima Dose Rates
« Reply #1 on: Oct 24, 2011, 12:38 »
Thanks

As info I have seen a few other documents like this and I dont know if its just me but I cant see any numerical data

other than the legend and a few other places like "soil"  I can only see dots ..........

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« Reply #2 on: Oct 24, 2011, 03:46 »
Thankyou for the info...I am using an iPhone and can see clearly all the text...most interesting is the July survey of > 10,000 mSv/hr (>1,000 R/hr) at SGTS piping between and slightly west of Unit 1 and Unit 2.


http://http://www.tepco.co.jp/en/nu/fukushima-np/f1/index3-e.html
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Re: Fukushima Dose Rates
« Reply #3 on: Oct 24, 2011, 05:07 »
Thanks

As info I have seen a few other documents like this and I dont know if its just me but I cant see any numerical data

other than the legend and a few other places like "soil"  I can only see dots ..........

sf

You need to let Acrobat install the Japanese fonts for them to display.  The number's aren't in Japanese, but you need the fonts installed to read them...

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Re: Fukushima Dose Rates
« Reply #4 on: Oct 26, 2011, 01:36 »
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You need to let Acrobat install the Japanese fonts for them to display.  The number's aren't in Japanese, but you need the fonts installed to read them...

Thanks storm13 was not sure if it was a firewall issue or what

Ill give that a try if my FW will allow it

And thanks for the link wlrun3 
 
I can see the data in in the 8/22 survey

Now I wonder what SGTS stands for ?  Second grate torus ??

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« Reply #5 on: Oct 27, 2011, 01:47 »
Thanks storm13!  I figured I didn't need Japanese since I couldn't understand it.  I didn't consider that they might be Japanese Arabic numbers instead of English Arabic numbers  :P


Now I wonder what SGTS stands for ?  Second grate torus ??


Standby Gas Treatment System.

It is the filter and stack system for treating the vented gas from containment.
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Re: Fukushima Dose Rates
« Reply #7 on: Nov 22, 2011, 07:22 »

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« Reply #8 on: Nov 23, 2011, 06:51 »

The map of the site, the dose rate survey of the region in mR/hr and the INPO authorship was what I thought would be of interest.

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« Reply #9 on: Nov 23, 2011, 07:13 »
The map of the site, the dose rate survey of the region in mR/hr and the INPO authorship was what I thought would be of interest.



I find the whole thing interesting just not light reading.

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Re: Fukushima Dose Rates
« Reply #10 on: Nov 24, 2011, 12:03 »
We sure miss you here at Columbia, Bill.....the PAP just isn't the same, and it certainly isn't as clean and tidy  ;)
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Re: Fukushima Dose Rates
« Reply #11 on: Nov 24, 2011, 09:00 »

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Re: Fukushima Dose Rates
« Reply #12 on: Dec 02, 2011, 12:46 »
   It looks as if all the fuel in unit 1 melted, breached the reactor vessel, melted through several feet of sub pile room concrete floor and came close to melting through the metal bottom of the dry well.
   Correct me if I have this wrong.

 http://mdn.mainichi.jp/mdnnews/news/20111130p2g00m0dm147000c.html  


Modification to this post...it looks like I was wrong. The fuel apparently only melted through 5% of the concrete above the metal bottom of the drywell.



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« Reply #13 on: Dec 04, 2011, 12:54 »

"The melted core material did not even get close to exiting the container that was designed to retain it. And this was a case where the reactor was operating at full power and then lost all cooling within a few minutes. It is hard to get much worse than that."

     http://atomicinsights.com/2011/12/more-accurate-headline-would-be-fukushima-containment-worked.html





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« Reply #16 on: Dec 06, 2011, 10:24 »

Quote from: wlrun3 on December 02, 2011, 12:54:43 PM
What is between the sub pile room floor and the metal bottom of the drywell in a Mk 1 BWR?

In the case of Fukishima there is 7.6m of concrete:

In Japanese:

http://mainichi.jp/select/today/news/20111201k0000m040066000c.html

Bablefish translated

http://babelfish.yahoo.com/translate_url?doit=done&tt=url&intl=1&fr=bf-home&trurl=http%3A%2F%2Fmainichi.jp%2Fselect%2Ftoday%2Fnews%2F20111201k0000m040066000c.html&lp=ja_en&btnTrUrl=Translate


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« Reply #18 on: Dec 11, 2011, 08:26 »
http://www.tepco.co.jp/en/nu/fukushima-np/images/handouts_111130_08-e.pdf
http://www.tepco.co.jp/en/nu/fukushima-np/images/handouts_111130_04-e.pdf


"Summary...Even in the case of Unit 1, which had the deepest erosion, the erosion had not reached to the steel shroud of primary container vessel and stayed inside."

Thankyou matthew.b.
Best information I've seen so far.







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Re: Fukushima Dose Rates
« Reply #20 on: Dec 14, 2011, 08:54 »
DJ,
   Good to here from you..thankyou for the INPO report.
Bill
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Re: Fukushima Dose Rates
« Reply #21 on: Jul 05, 2012, 01:09 »
http://www.france24.com/en/20120627-record-radiation-levels-detected-fukushima-reactor

AFP - TEPCO, the operator of Japan's crippled Fukushima nuclear plant, said Wednesday record amounts of radiation had been detected in the basement of reactor number 1, further hampering clean-up operations.

TEPCO took samples from the basement after lowering a camera and surveying instruments through a drain hole in the basement ceiling.

Radiation levels above radioactive water in the basement reached up to 10,300 millisievert an hour, a dose that will kill humans within a short time after making them sick within minutes.

The annual allowed dose for workers at the stricken site is reached in only 20 seconds.

"Workers cannot enter the site and we must use robots for the demolition," said TEPCO.

The Fukushima operator said that radiation levels were 10 times higher than those recorded at the plant's two other crippled reactors, number two and three.

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Re: Fukushima Dose Rates
« Reply #22 on: Jul 05, 2012, 03:17 »
Just took a class on Fukushima......some crazy stuff.  A couple Control Room Operators received ~65 REM of total exposure (mostly internal) because they didnt have respirator glasses and chose seeing over a protection factor.  Still, given the situation, no worker has been exposed to 70+ REM......I find that amazing.  The Fukushima work force has done an incredible job.

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