Author Topic: Just enlisted (Read 18404 times)

BananaWifi · « **on:** Feb 07, 2012, 11:56 »

Hello my name is Cory and i have just enlisted into the Navy Nuke program and i am soon to head out to basic. i have done about 2 years of college already and have my AA in general education but what i really want to know is what to expect in the coming months of "A" school, NPS, and Prototype school.

I would also like to know what i should study up on before i go into "A" school. In college i made it to Calc II and Physics I but i did not due so well in those classes due to lack of motivation at the time. I still have my Calc book and physics I, II book and just want to know what parts of those would be good to have memorized or extra practice with before i start school.

Thank you.

Fermi2 · « **Reply #1 on:** Feb 07, 2012, 01:05 »

Study the SEARCH function.

HydroDave63 · « **Reply #2 on:** Feb 07, 2012, 02:30 »

50 quatloos against the newcomer.

[spoiler]SEARCH, nub!! [/spoiler]

On-topic: The books you mentioned should be more than adequate. Not that ALL of that material is covered at enlisted NPS, but it will help focus and motivate you towards the goal. Or not.

IPREGEN · « **Reply #3 on:** Feb 07, 2012, 03:19 »

Honest effort will pay off. I saw people devote all their waking time to pass and others cruise on through. You will find out right away where you are. It's all up to you.

BroadStreetBully · « **Reply #4 on:** Feb 07, 2012, 05:34 »

Quote from: IPREGEN on Feb 07, 2012, 03:19

Honest effort will pay off. I saw people devote all their waking time to pass and others cruise on through. You will find out right away where you are. It's all up to you.

This always drove me crazy. One of my roommates in power school would spend an hour or two a night studying and then spend about five or six hours skateboarding around the mall. I believe he graduated the second or third highest mechanic in my class. The guy who sat next to me was a hard core mando commando and I believe was honestly trying as hard as he could, but ended up going to sub school instead of prototype after graduation.

BananaWifi · « **Reply #5 on:** Feb 08, 2012, 01:37 »

Hmmm i guess thank's $:-\$ .....

From what i have been reading and the few people i have talked to its not the curriculum that is the most diffacult but your ability to not give up and give it your all.

My reasons for asking were only because there is very little info on specific parts of what i will be studying in the soon to come months.

I am the type of person who refuses to be unprepared, the nuke coordinator seems to have no time for my questions and my recruiter has no experience in the field thus why i came here to were i expected ppl to have been there and done that.

Higgs · « **Reply #6 on:** Feb 08, 2012, 02:29 »

Quote from: BananaWifi on Feb 08, 2012, 01:37

Hmmm i guess thank's $:-\$ .....

From what i have been reading and the few people i have talked to its not the curriculum that is the most diffacult but your ability to not give up and give it your all.

My reasons for asking were only because there is very little info on specific parts of what i will be studying in the soon to come months.

I am the type of person who refuses to be unprepared, the nuke coordinator seems to have no time for my questions and my recruiter has no experience in the field thus why i came here to were i expected ppl to have been there and done that.

As someone who entered the NNPP with a Physics degree, I will tell you that you would be wasting your time memorizing anything in any of those books that you have now. In fact, you'll essentially have to "unlearn" what you've learned. The NNPP was designed to bring someone in off the streets at 18 years old and has had barely anything over algebra. They have a prescribed way in which you WILL do the problems, and they will teach you that way from day one. Personally, my previous studies were a hindrance at first because I was always questioning what was being said, to my peril. I failed the very first basic math test because I refused to go along. That is the only test I ever failed in my nuclear power career, by the way. I learned my hard lesson, took my lumps, and never looked back.

So, my advice is RELAX. Enjoy your time and don't worry about memorizing or studying for the NNPP because..., you really can't. STAY OUT OF TROUBLE between now and your ship date, but have some fun. Go somewhere, do something (or someone

). Before you know it, you'll be knee deep in the program.

Justin

RDTroja · « **Reply #7 on:** Feb 08, 2012, 02:33 »

Quote from: BananaWifi on Feb 08, 2012, 01:37

Hmmm i guess thank's $:-\$ .....

From what i have been reading and the few people i have talked to its not the curriculum that is the most diffacult but your ability to not give up and give it your all.

My reasons for asking were only because there is very little info on specific parts of what i will be studying in the soon to come months.

I am the type of person who refuses to be unprepared, the nuke coordinator seems to have no time for my questions and my recruiter has no experience in the field thus why i came here to were i expected ppl to have been there and done that.

The reasons for all the 'Search!' demands are simple. It really has all been discussed here in depth (I know this and I don't pay that much attention to the Navy Section since I am a product of the Commercial Industry) and the most important thing you can do right now to prepare you for what you will need to be doing is learn to find things that are in front of you. In other words, take advantage of the assistance you get, but more importantly take the initiative to be the guy that others come to because you have already found the answers on your own.

There is truly a wealth of information in these pages, put here by people that have already walked the path you are starting on. No one is going to spoon feed you here... that would be a waste of time and a disservice to you. The information is there. If you have not found it yet, keep looking. If you still don't find it look harder. When you have exhausted your ability to find it for yourself, ask very specific questions and someone will point you in the right direction.

No one here wants you to fail. Providing you with information without making you work for it will only increase the chances of your failure. Trust me on this. And trust the others here -- they will not let you fail if you show that you are willing to work to succeed. If you don't start off with the ability and desire to do it for yourself, you have already failed.

Good luck and thank you for your (future) service to our Country.

P.S. If you want to impress anyone (including, but not limited to the people here) learn how to spell or at least use the spell checker provided for you. Learn how to punctuate. And drop the cute little internet abbreviations. They belong to a world you should be growing out of right about now.

BananaWifi · « **Reply #8 on:** Feb 10, 2012, 02:37 »

Awesome thanks, that was some good advice i will try harder for what i need because i know I'm far from the first to do this. i just need to relax this is a big deal to me for this is all i have ever wanted to do, and its family tradition to join the Navy i am the first to qualify to be a nuc.

Fermi2 · « **Reply #9 on:** Feb 10, 2012, 03:33 »

Right after a member tells you to learn to capitalize you say thank you. THEN YOU DO NOT CAPITALIZE I!!! DANG!!

mendo059 · « **Reply #10 on:** Feb 10, 2012, 05:27 »

Quote from: BananaWifi on Feb 07, 2012, 11:56

Hello my name is Cory and i have just enlisted into the Navy Nuke program and i am soon to head out to basic. i have done about 2 years of college already and have my AA in general education but what i really want to know is what to expect in the coming months of "A" school, NPS, and Prototype school.

I would also like to know what i should study up on before i go into "A" school. In college i made it to Calc II and Physics I but i did not due so well in those classes due to lack of motivation at the time. I still have my Calc book and physics I, II book and just want to know what parts of those would be good to have memorized or extra practice with before i start school.

Thank you.

Congrats Cory. Same Here I Just enlisted about a month ago and leave in Sept.
I"ve done tons of research on what to study for and prepare, but honestly there really isn't much you can do to get ahead of the game. I would recommend:

1)Stay in school mode (take a class or just research nuclear news or read)
2)I found study information about all topics that will most likely be covered in A school/Power school. But please note that what they teach you and the way they teach you in the Navy will be very different from what you learn in the civilian world. But this is definitely a good start.
3) Learn the basic foundations of physics, thermodynamics, and/or electronics.

http://www.navy.com/careers/nuclear-energy/nuclear-power-school.html

This link should provide a good study guide as to what to expect. Can't really go wrong if this is on the Navy website.

Little by little I'm reading this but most of all I'm enjoying time with family and friends before I ship.

Gamecock · « **Reply #11 on:** Feb 10, 2012, 05:37 »

Quote from: mendo059 on Feb 10, 2012, 05:27

But please note that what they teach you and the way they teach you in the Navy will be very different from what you learn in the civilian world.

I get tired of reading things like this......

Its not like we (the navy) are making things up and changing the basic laws of physics and mechanics.

What we do is teach you a methodology of solving problems. This methodology may be different then what you have been exposed to in the past. We expect you to do things our way....its a rudimentary introduction to procedural compliance.

E=mc² F=ma V=IR .......even in the navy

Starkist · « **Reply #12 on:** Feb 10, 2012, 05:39 »

Yes gamecock, but the navy is the only program that will give you next to no credit with just a correct answer :p

edit: to the (*clears throat*) "tadpoles" -> You arent "enlisted" until you take your oath of enlistment. Trivial, but theres a difference. You guys are also wasting your time if you're studying now. Get OUT of school mode now, and save it for when you are actually in the program. Burning yourself out now is useless.

GLW · « **Reply #13 on:** Feb 10, 2012, 06:37 »

Quote from: Starkist on Feb 10, 2012, 05:39

Yes gamecock, but the navy is the only program that will give you next to no credit with just a correct answer :p

Untrue, "show your work" is not a Navy construct, there are plenty of astute professors who when they require you to show your work in your answer will not give anywhere close to full credit for 3.141592653589793238462643383 2795028841971693993751.

Higgs · « **Reply #14 on:** Feb 10, 2012, 06:46 »

Quote from: GLW on Feb 10, 2012, 06:37

Untrue, "show your work" is not a Navy construct, there are plenty of astute professors who when they require you to show your work in your answer will not give anywhere close to full credit for 3.141592653589793238462643383 2795028841971693993751.

True. In my diffeq class, I may have known the solution to a particular problem, but I wouldn't have gotten credit if I didn't show how I got there. As one example.

GLW · « **Reply #15 on:** Feb 10, 2012, 07:04 »

Quote from: BananaWifi on Feb 08, 2012, 01:37

...I am the type of person who refuses to be unprepared....

Not true,....

Quote from: BananaWifi on Feb 07, 2012, 11:56

...In college i made it to Calc II and Physics I but i did not due so well in those classes due to lack of motivation at the time...

You seem to have come to a place where you are determined to be successful yet are disappointed that others do not embrace your new found dedication with supportive action on their part;

Quote from: BananaWifi on Feb 08, 2012, 01:37

...the nuke coordinator seems to have no time for my questions and my recruiter has no experience in the field....

The coordinator and recruiter are guys on shore duty with day jobs. I would wager in this economy they have processed hundreds of enlistees without previous motivation issues and hundreds with motivation issues. You are not a special snowflake, you have previously failed to avail yourself of the privilege for self improvement in college. This, in and of itself, does not guarantee you will not dedicate yourself or not succeed in future endeavours. Yet, be assured there are other candidates for whom enhanced shepherding through the recruitment process has a higher probability of success. No one wants to expend too much effort on lower probability prospects.

Besides, you have indicated you are already Navy Nuclear Power Program designated so relax and be secure in the knowledge that the Navy will tell you and provide to you all and everything you will need to succeed. You just have to pick it up and do it.

Keep us posted as you progress when you can. Over the years we have begun to acquire a number of posters who have made the civilian to Navy and back to civilian life transitions.

Most are successful, one or two mixed, some seem to drop off the radar altogether,.... $:-\$

Good luck,....

GLW · « **Reply #16 on:** Feb 10, 2012, 07:09 »

Quote from: Higgs on Feb 10, 2012, 06:46

True. In my diffeq class, I may have known the solution to a particular problem, but I wouldn't have gotten credit if I didn't show how I got there. As one example.

I'm always intrigued by the notion some folks have that the NNPP and it's pipeline were invented by a bunch of disgruntled E-6's and coffee clutching Master Chiefs who can no longer view their own gigline without use of a mirror,...

Navy brass is chock a block full of Masters and PhD's,...

Not to mention things like NNPP pipelines are peer reviewed by academicians,...

I'm just saying,....

Starkist · « **Reply #17 on:** Feb 10, 2012, 07:43 »

I believe the point is the pipeline is fairly unique, and that it has its own unique set of challenges that will be hard to replicate elsewhere.

Of course, I went through the "soft navy" version of power school too

Gamecock · « **Reply #18 on:** Feb 10, 2012, 07:55 »

Quote from: GLW on Feb 10, 2012, 06:37

3.1415926535897932384626433832795028841971693993751.

For the record.....

the next digit is 0

(there once was a time when I had pi memorized to the 40 decimal place)

Starkist · « **Reply #19 on:** Feb 10, 2012, 08:00 »

Quote from: Gamecock on Feb 10, 2012, 07:55

For the record.....

the next digit is 0

(there once was a time when I had pi memorized to the 40 decimal place)

nerds.

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HydroDave63 · « **Reply #20 on:** Feb 10, 2012, 08:53 »

Quote from: Gamecock on Feb 10, 2012, 07:55

(there once was a time when I had pi memorized to the 40 decimal place)

They have meds for that nowadays

HydroDave63 · « **Reply #21 on:** Feb 10, 2012, 09:20 »

Quote from: Starkist on Feb 10, 2012, 07:43

Of course, I went through the "soft navy" version of power school too

and it shows

Starkist · « **Reply #22 on:** Feb 10, 2012, 09:28 »

Quote from: HydroDave63 on Feb 10, 2012, 09:20

and it shows

I was a hugger...

drayer54 · « **Reply #23 on:** Feb 10, 2012, 11:38 »

Quote from: Starkist on Feb 10, 2012, 05:39

edit: to the poliwogs -> You arent "enlisted" until you take your oath of enlistment. Trivial, but theres a difference.

To the confused nub -> You only get to use Pollywog in a derogatory manner when you had it written on your chest as King Neptune graduated you and the slime you were covered in to his sacred order of the mighty deep as you were somewhere near the line. Now take it back wog!

On a side note, I would have made a great baby......

Starkist · « **Reply #24 on:** Feb 11, 2012, 12:14 »

Quote from: Drayer on Feb 10, 2012, 11:38

To the confused nub -> You only get to use Pollywog in a derogatory manner when you had it written on your chest as King Neptune graduated you and the slime you were covered in to his sacred order of the mighty deep as you were somewhere near the line. Now take it back wog!

On a side note, I would have made a great baby......

Wasn't derogatory. Meant to say tadpole, Ill fix that oh master shellback. :p

xobxdoc · « **Reply #25 on:** Feb 11, 2012, 07:00 »

Quote from: Starkist on Feb 10, 2012, 08:00

nerds.

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HydroDave63 · « **Reply #26 on:** Feb 11, 2012, 08:50 »

Quote from: Drayer on Feb 10, 2012, 11:38

when you had it written on your chest as King Neptune graduated you and the slime you were covered in to his sacred order of the mighty deep as you were somewhere near the line.

Those of us with more self-confidence instead said "I'm not playing, I'll take the early chow and the extra watch in the plant"

Just sayin....

drayer54 · « **Reply #27 on:** Feb 11, 2012, 10:18 »

Quote from: HydroDave63 on Feb 11, 2012, 08:50

Those of us with more self-confidence instead said "I'm not playing, I'll take the early chow and the extra watch in the plant"

Just sayin....

Respectfully disagree.

I think that experience was one of the most unique in my time in the Navy.
Getting the opportunity to take part in an old Navy tradition was one of my most enjoyable days at sea. I was lucky to get that chance as an East coast sailor.
No regrets there.

LaFeet · « **Reply #28 on:** Feb 15, 2012, 05:25 »

Things are MUCH different now as compared to when I ventured to Orlando....

For the most part, relax, focus and stay OUT OF TROUBLE!!!

I was never on mandatory hours until the last few weeks when all of the school was placed in study hell.

I was often seen skating onbase or cruising into town... I really miss Rocky Horror Saturday nights.

Thank you for your service and keep you head on course, you should do fine

hoopercj · « **Reply #29 on:** Feb 15, 2012, 06:32 »

Quote from: GLW on Feb 10, 2012, 07:09

I'm always intrigued by the notion some folks have that the NNPP and it's pipeline were invented by a bunch of disgruntled E-6's and coffee clutching Master Chiefs who can no longer view their own gigline without use of a mirror,...

Navy brass is chock a block full of Masters and PhD's,...

Not to mention things like NNPP pipelines are peer reviewed by academicians,...

I'm just saying,....

While of course you're right in saying that the higher ups are full of degrees, i feel the need to point out that when a change (even a quite significant change) in curriculum is desired by these guys, it's the "disgruntled E-6's" and other instructors for the course in question that actually write the change. We get given a list of topical guides, and are for all intents and purposes left to our own devices to produce the end product with a minimum of review on the part of NR/others primarily for technical accuracy. The overall picture is certainly developed by the upper chain; however, the lecture that these kids are going to see was written by me or those like me, who have little more than operational experience and maybe a degree from excelsior or thomas edison. Some things go differently for the power school side of the house, but mainly because their curriculum does not change significantly very often, and the end product is still developed by the same folks.

xobxdoc · « **Reply #30 on:** Feb 16, 2012, 06:54 »

Quote from: LaFeet on Feb 15, 2012, 05:25

Things are MUCH different now as compared to when I ventured to Orlando....

For the most part, relax, focus and stay OUT OF TROUBLE!!!

I was never on mandatory hours until the last few weeks when all of the school was placed in study hell.

I was often seen skating onbase or cruising into town... I really miss Rocky Horror Saturday nights.

Thank you for your service and keep you head on course, you should do fine

You didn't happen to wear Hooter's style shorts while you were skating, did you? Summer of 81, I witnessed this on the big sidewalks at nuke school. It did look like a big stress reliever though.

LaFeet · « **Reply #31 on:** Feb 16, 2012, 10:18 »

Quote from: xobxdoc on Feb 16, 2012, 06:54

You didn't happen to wear Hooter's style shorts while you were skating, did you? Summer of 81, I witnessed this on the big sidewalks at nuke school. It did look like a big stress reliever though.

There was a tall blonde that wore those shorts, we managed to hook up a few times (she was into Rocky Horror also). I favored my dive school shorts while burning the sidewalks. And yes, other than spending Wednesday nights at SPIT, the skating was my most relaxing activity....

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