Nukelette looking for ideas for the future

[NukeBoss]

     I am a Navy Nuke, MM3.  I'm currently in Prototype in Ballston Spa, NY.  Obviously, as of now, I have no business working at a civilian nuclear power plant, but let me tell you about my goals.  I want to do at least 8 years in the Navy.  After I get out, I want to work at a civilian nuclear plant and make good money.  It's not a gimme.  I want it, and I will work as hard as it takes to get it.  How can I plan, from the get-go, how to get a good, 6-figure job?  Here's what I have going for me right now.
     I'm a hard-charger.  Currently further ahead than anyone in my class, and planning to stay that way.  I'm going for ELT and Staff Pick-up (SPU).  I feel confident that I will get both.  I want to take advantage of the opportunity to qualify EOoW during the 2-3 years I would be here as staff.  Afterwards, it's off to the fleet (surface) and the goal of superior watch standing and stacking qualifications, as well as working on my degree.
     I take great pride in serving my country, but I want to ensure I set myself up for success in the best ways possible.  Please, all nukes/former nukes, give me your advice on what to do.  And anyone working in the civilian field, or hiring in the civilian field, let me know what you look for and what is expected of me.  All advice is sincerely appreciated.
     I hope this thread will serve as a guide for all the other nukelettes in my position.  Thank you very much.

[Higgs]

     I am a Navy Nuke, MM3.  I'm currently in Prototype in Ballston Spa, NY.  Obviously, as of now, I have no business working at a civilian nuclear power plant, but let me tell you about my goals.  I want to do at least 8 years in the Navy.  After I get out, I want to work at a civilian nuclear plant and make good money.  It's not a gimme.  I want it, and I will work as hard as it takes to get it.  How can I plan, from the get-go, how to get a good, 6-figure job?  Here's what I have going for me right now.
     I'm a hard-charger.  Currently further ahead than anyone in my class, and planning to stay that way.  I'm going for ELT and Staff Pick-up (SPU).  I feel confident that I will get both.  I want to take advantage of the opportunity to qualify EOoW during the 2-3 years I would be here as staff.  Afterwards, it's off to the fleet (surface) and the goal of superior watch standing and stacking qualifications, as well as working on my degree.
     I take great pride in serving my country, but I want to ensure I set myself up for success in the best ways possible.  Please, all nukes/former nukes, give me your advice on what to do.  And anyone working in the civilian field, or hiring in the civilian field, let me know what you look for and what is expected of me.  All advice is sincerely appreciated.
     I hope this thread will serve as a guide for all the other nukelettes in my position.  Thank you very much.

First, you won't qualify EOOW or EWS as a SPU.

Second, you must have EWS or PPWS for at least 2 years.

Third, is a nukelette?

Fourth, this has been discussed a lot on these forums. Search.

Justin

[Fermi2]

You're lazy. Use the search function.

[DontGoToNPTU]

BZ and Higgs are right GOYA and use the search function. If you want EOOW and you get SPU you're going to be in a minimum of 10 years probably more.

[MMM]

We have couple guys that got EOOW in 8 years. Damned ETs.

[Higgs]

Huh? What does et have to do with it? I went back to prototype at 6 years and qualified eoow at 7.

[eaton1981]

I've seen a chief do EOOW in 7 years. As far as what MMM refers to...maybe it has something to do with the fact that ETs currently make E6 at a higher rate. Thus, if they qualified EWS on their boat, show up to NPTU at their 5-6 year point, qualify EWS really fast and get in good with the Chief's quarters at the plant, they might get put into EOOW quals and qualify by the time they reach their 8 year point.

Then again, nothing's to stop any of the other rates from doing the exact same thing. It's just currently perceived that "damned ETs" get the good deal as far as advancement (because they do).

[DontGoToNPTU]

If you want EOOW and you get SPU

Assuming he gets selected and completes ELT school that puts him at 2 years. Put SPU on top of that he's at 4 years. Three years at sea and comes back to NPTU he's at 7. He's going to have a minimum of 2 more years to complete at NPTU and they are not going to give him EOOW if he is only going to be there for 2 years. This is how I arrived at the minimum of 10 years. Yes Burks did it in 7 but he was not a SPU. The ET's that MMM is referring to will have completed >10 years by the time they are done.

The questions still stands wtf is a nukelette?

[HydroDave63]

The questions still stands wtf is a nukelette?

Probably one of those 'special' sailors now encouraged in the post-DADT fleet...

[Marlin]

The questions still stands wtf is a nukelette?

  Maybe it's like an aglet for a shoe. Instead of the tip of a shoelace to make threading easier its the pointy tip of a nub that makes him slide through the nuke pipeline easier.

 

[DontGoToNPTU]

 Maybe it's like an aglet for a shoe. Instead of the tip of a shoelace to make threading easier its the pointy tip of a nub that makes him slide through the nuke pipeline easier.

 

 

[eaton1981]

ette (the feminine form of the diminutive suffix, -et)

Diminutive: (Grammar) Of or pertaining to, or creating a word form expressing smallness, youth, unimportance, or endearment.

Example: Pig -> boy baby pig = piglet. Pig -> girl baby pig = piglette.

So, by this, a "nukelette" is a baby female nuke. However, she's not a nuke yet since she hasn't qualified. So she's a nublette.

But I like Marlin's idea way better hahaha.

[eaton1981]

PS. If Occupy the NRC was smart, they'd have made a "Occupy the Occupy the Occupy the NRC" group to counteract yours by now.

[Higgs]

Wait, someone here made the occupy the occupy the nrc page?

[eaton1981]

Yeah, DontgotoNPTU did. Bunch of the current and ex NPTU staff is on there and now we're spamming the Occupy the NRC site, or..."occupying" it.

[HydroDave63]

is there a url? Don't be a check valve!

[Higgs]

Yeah, DontgotoNPTU did. Bunch of the current and ex NPTU staff is on there and now we're spamming the Occupy the NRC site, or..."occupying" it.

Yeah I joined. I was almost immediately banned for injecting facts. I joined the occupy occupy too.

Justin

[Higgs]

is there a url? Don't be a check valve!

https://www.facebook.com/groups/344460018963912/

[drayer54]

Yeah I joined. I was almost immediately banned for injecting facts. I joined the occupy occupy too.

Justin

Me too! I finally occupied something!!! I spammed to my hearts desire and they banned me. It's like real occupying, only with a job and less smelly women and drugs.... and you can do it in the comfort of your own home!

[jams723]

I only made 3 posts before I was bannened.  I guess injecting logic and fact was frowned on by the establishment.

[drayer54]

I only made 3 posts before I was bannened.  I guess injecting logic and fact was frowned on by the establishment.

Yup.

That's why I jumped ahead to hate and discontent.

Logic and facts arent the way to occupy!

Plus, I think those mothers for peace and ignorance are behind this. Like other fruits and nuts, they are in California.

[eaton1981]

Awww...I was deleted! I was up there for a good 24 hours too.

[DontGoToNPTU]

I have been banned two times, working on a third!

[eaton1981]

Part of me feels bad because it's just a bunch of concerned moms. Then the other part of me gets angry at the fact they are happy to spread their ignorance to unsuspecting facebook users.

[Higgs]

I don't care who it is. They're misinformed and not interested in honest, open, intellectual debate or in a discussion of the facts. They deserve all the scorn and mocking they get.

[drayer54]

I don't care who it is. They're misinformed and not interested in honest, open, intellectual debate or in a discussion of the facts. They deserve all the scorn and mocking they get.

They are clearly getting a whole lot of it. That Facebook group is growing very fast.

[Preciousblue1965]

Ok I have been gone from the site for WAY too long.  There is seriously an "Occupy the NRC" movement going on that started with some no-brained hippies.  Well I must come up with some deviltry to employ on said site.   

Oh and if anyone cares, I have been an NLO at Catawba for almost a year and half now.  Smoked BOT and ISS and working on quals now.  Nice to be back.

[Higgs]

Ok I have been gone from the site for WAY too long.  There is seriously an "Occupy the NRC" movement going on that started with some no-brained hippies.  Well I must come up with some deviltry to employ on said site.   

Oh and if anyone cares, I have been an NLO at Catawba for almost a year and half now.  Smoked BOT and ISS and working on quals now.  Nice to be back.

Congrats! Welcome back!!



Gee this topic has gone way off. Oh well, the OP hasn't been back anyway.

[DontGoToNPTU]

It has gone so far off topic that I think it could potentially make a circle back to the origional topic ... maybe?

[GLW]

It has gone so far off topic that I think it could potentially make a circle back to the origional topic ... maybe?

BZ's general observation on Internet forums/threads etal, By the 5th post in any thread it starts drifting off topic. By 12 to 15 it has nothing to do with the original topic and if it surives to 30 or so it magically gets back on topic. This applies almost everywhere.

Mike

[eaton1981]

I like how they've singled you out personally, Josh. You are the voice of the nukes! Hopefully it spirals and you get to be an "expert analyst" on CNN.

[DontGoToNPTU]

Oh man if that happened I'd be pissed. I'm already worried I'm gonna have some explaining to do when I go back to work on Saturday.

[NukeBoss]

A Nukelette, accorcding to Command Master Chief Coles, is a nuke who is still is training, aka nub, aka nuke fetus.  Thanks for all the... advice...

[Higgs]

A Nukelette, accorcding to Command Master Chief Coles, is a nuke who is still is training, aka nub, aka nuke fetus.  Thanks for all the... advice...

Well according to a commercial SRO, Master Chief Coles is also a nukelette. Just saying. 

Justin

[Fermi2]

A Nukelette, accorcding to Command Master Chief Coles, is a nuke who is still is training, aka nub, aka nuke fetus.  Thanks for all the... advice...

Real nukes who play in the commercial big leagues would call Command Master Chief Coles a janitor.

[HydroDave63]

Or perhaps we should change the old saying "I've got more time...." to instead read: "I've made more megawatts sitting on the crapper at a BWR, than you have in a 30 year career, Master Chief/Lt. Cmdr/Admiral" 

[Fermi2]

LOL in my case you can add PWR too!

[Chimera]

Okay, I gots ta ask . . . what the heck is a "Command Master Chief"?

[GLW]

Okay, I gots ta ask . . . what the heck is a "Command Master Chief"?

back in 1981 he was an MMCM at NNPS who had a bit of dislike for a certain EMC who hated the MM's he was in charge of in Class 8102, Section 7,...

colorful story to follow,...

[HydroDave63]

Okay, I gots ta ask . . . what the heck is a "Command Master Chief"?

Picture the blubbery khaki-clad guy in Crimson Tide.

[RDTroja]

Picture the blubbery khaki-clad guy in Crimson Tide.

The one called COB (Chief Of the Boat.)

[Gamecock]

Okay, I gots ta ask . . . what the heck is a "Command Master Chief"?

A master chief who is no longer the technical expert on his rating, but who is instead supposed to be part of the command leadership team.  In order to become a CMC, the master chief must apply and get selected by a selection board.  He then gets re-rated (i.e he is no longer a MMCM or ETCM or EMCM.....he is a CMDCM).  He willl then be billeted to a command to serve in his capacity as senior advisor to the CO, and leader of the Chief's Mess. 

For the record, I've only ever served with one CMDCM who I thought was worth a lick.

[Chimera]

A master chief who is no longer the technical expert on his rating, but who is instead supposed to be part of the command leadership team.  In order to become a CMC, the master chief must apply and get selected by a selection board.  He then gets re-rated (i.e he is no longer a MMCM or ETCM or EMCM.....he is a CMDCM).  He willl then be billeted to a command to serve in his capacity as senior advisor to the CO, and leader of the Chief's Mess. 

For the record, I've only ever served with one CMDCM who I thought was worth a lick.

Thanks.  I left the Navy in 1974 and I don't remember ever hearing of such a thing . . . er . . . person.

[GLW]

A master chief who is no longer the technical expert on his rating, but who is instead supposed to be part of the command leadership team.  In order to become a CMC, the master chief must apply and get selected by a selection board.  He then gets re-rated (i.e he is no longer a MMCM or ETCM or EMCM.....he is a CMDCM).  He willl then be billeted to a command to serve in his capacity as senior advisor to the CO, and leader of the Chief's Mess. 

For the record, I've only ever served with one CMDCM who I thought was worth a lick.

back in 1981 he was an MMCM at NNPS who had a bit of dislike for a certain EMC who hated the MM's he was in charge of in Class 8102, Section 7,...

things change a lot when you live to get old,...heheheheh,...

perhaps the MMCM was titled as a Senior Enlisted Advisor back in 1982,...

LaFeet might remember,...

it has been a long time,...

[HydroDave63]

Thanks.  I left the Navy in 1974 and I don't remember ever hearing of such a thing . . . er . . . person.

It is the Mullenized fleet now, "things" are allowed   

[Fermi2]

Actually both my COBs were quite excellent. And the CMC at the SUBPACREP Mare Island who I worked for while waiting to get out on disability was a great guy. All three were darn good leaders, none were Nukes.

[Higgs]

I can count on two fingers the number of MC's I've had that were worth a sh*t.

In fact, it was an MC that helped me make up my mind to EAOS when he said (I made the mistake of being friendly with the head of WMFO while standing EDO);

"Petty Officer *****, no matter what your qualification or achievements, at the end of the day, you're still just a blue shirt and no one gives a sh*t about MM1 ****."

I thanked him for finally telling the truth.


Justin

[HydroDave63]

I can count on two fingers the number of MC's I've had that were worth a sh*t.

In fact, it was an MC that helped me make up my mind to EAOS when he said (I made the mistake of being friendly with the head of WMFO while standing EDO);

"Petty Officer *****, no matter what your qualification or achievements, at the end of the day, you're still just a blue shirt and no one gives a sh*t about MM1 ****."

I thanked him for finally telling the truth.


Justin

It'd be great to find out on LinkedIn that the colostomy bag in question is probably now selling insurance over the phone by day, waving a housing development twirly sign on the weekends, and can't figure out why he doesnt get invited to take POSS tests at nuclear plants

[Fermi2]

OOO my favorite was an STCS telling me how greatly respected a full tour and dolphines were in the civilian world and me not completing my full tour was probably going to cost me 20 to 25K when I got out.

[HydroDave63]

OOO my favorite was an STCS telling me how greatly respected a full tour and dolphines were in the civilian world and me not completing my full tour was probably going to cost me 20 to 25K when I got out.

Well....yeah!! He's probably in charge of 10 or 12 part-time staff at Payless Shoes, and look at you...don't meet uniform standards, and you still have to sit in some lame control room pushing buttons and boiling water. When you gonna get a REAL job, shipmate? 

[Xenon_Free]

Back to the original question

As others on this site have posted:  "You are a special and unique snowflake...Just like everybody else."

My advice - Qualify everything you can.  At the end of the day though, it is your ability/personality that will get you promoted, hired, or respected.  Planning is counter productive.  Be an operator - know more than everyone else... That is, strive everyday to know more than yesterday.  Above all, watch what and how others do things better than you and emulate their success by doing it also, and if you can... Do it  better.  Never kiss ass, we all smell it, we do not like it.

XF

[Xenon_Free]

By the way, you should never think of yourself as a "nukelette", instead refer to yourself as an "undocumented, commercially challenged operator."

Advice worth what you paid,
XF

[DontGoToNPTU]

By the way, you should never think of yourself as a "nukelette", instead refer to yourself as an "undocumented, commercially challenged operator."

Or, a currently unqualified naval trainee.