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hamsamich:
Disagree. I think the future is undecided.  Commercial power as we know it in the US may be dying this minute, but it is too viable a power producer with the greenhouse gas issue still looming to write it off as an obvious dying industry.  Quad cities and single unit plants being uneconomical don't have so much to do with nuclear power being a dying industry as it being an inefficient way to operate nuclear power plants.   No matter how many new ways we learn to slice them, fossil fuels are non-renewable.  The local and sometimes national political problems stopping nuclear power could change as well.  Political winds shift quickly and unexpectedly.  gobble gobble   ;D   

Fermi2:

--- Quote from: hamsamich on Nov 28, 2013, 02:40 ---Disagree. I think the future is undecided.  Commercial power as we know it in the US may be dying this minute, but it is too viable a power producer with the greenhouse gas issue still looming to write it off as an obvious dying industry.  Quad cities and single unit plants being uneconomical don't have so much to do with nuclear power being a dying industry as it being an inefficient way to operate nuclear power plants.   No matter how many new ways we learn to slice them, fossil fuels are non-renewable.  The local and sometimes national political problems stopping nuclear power could change as well.  Political winds shift quickly and unexpectedly.  gobble gobble   ;D   

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You're wrong. Cost over runs. Scrubbers, Natural Gas are going to kill the Nuclear industry. What should be of note is Quad is a good running DUAL unit plant.
So far two plants that have been granted life extensions are closing early.  Others are on their way. No one in their right mind will build a nuke when you can plop a CoGen anywhere and have it up and running in a couple years. Less than a decade ago the Nuke industry said we've learned our lesson, we can build these economically and thus far it's been proven a myth. Also no one in their right mind should believe Combined Licenses will happen. As soon as someone with the financial wherewithal intervenes THAT theory will go out the window.

Fermi2:

--- Quote from: navynukedoc on Nov 28, 2013, 06:01 ---Well we know SONGS, Oyster, Kuwanee (sp?) And VY. But rumor has it Exelon is looking to cut operating costs by closing single unit plants.

I look at it like this, if they close 'em, we still have to decom 'em. There just won't be any refueling going on!

Besides, they are building some nice shiny AP 1000's down south. Just wait, we aren't done yet!!!!!

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BTW sorry guys. I didn't mean to drop anything on Thanksgiving but when I saw the last paragraph here I couldn't stop myself.

I'll also submit to you the plants won't do anything but Safetstor long past our lifespan. Maybe our children too.

navynukedoc:

--- Quote from: Broadzilla on Nov 28, 2013, 02:46 ---
You're wrong. Cost over runs. Scrubbers, Natural Gas are going to kill the Nuclear industry. What should be of note is Quad is a good running DUAL unit plant.
So far two plants that have been granted life extensions are closing early.

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Guess BZ has a fetish for contradictions and aggrovations on my posts today. ;-)


Old article, but still in the works last I knew.

http://www.yournuclearnews.com/tva+progresses+with+mpower+project_64820.html?amp

Relax, you don't have to fight every person that doesn't agree or see things the same way you do.

I agree, the dinosaur plants we now call home won't be built anymore.

-Doc

Fermi2:
Correction no more plants will be built.

WBN 2 is 3 Billion over budget. TVA has stopped their plans for Bellefonte.

The link you posted was never under serious consideration, at a utility thsat is cutting a billion from their budget do you sriously believe they'd try to build sa reactor that isn't under licensing consideration?

Dying industry. Eulogy being written.

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