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Offline Dagon

I want to go on the road
« on: Aug 05, 2013, 11:17 »
I have been a house tech for >20 years and I think it is time to go on the road.  Is it possible to do 3 or 4 outages a year?  I really want to see the country and work at different plants. I have no ties and nothing to stay here for.  Being a senior RST must account for something in the HP world of employment.

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Re: I want to go on the road
« Reply #1 on: Aug 06, 2013, 08:30 »
What does RST stand for?  What type of facility are you a house tech in?

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Re: I want to go on the road
« Reply #2 on: Aug 07, 2013, 08:28 »
What does RST stand for?

How long have you been in this industry?

RST = RPT = HPT

Radiation Safety Technician -- and I would have a good guess about his location based on the acronym but I won't say. If he wants to tell you where he is, he will.
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Re: I want to go on the road
« Reply #3 on: Aug 07, 2013, 03:30 »
How long have you been in this industry?

RST = RPT = HPT

Radiation Safety Technician -- and I would have a good guess about his location based on the acronym but I won't say. If he wants to tell you where he is, he will.

What's the average length of an outage these days? 2wks, 3wks, 4wks?  It's been awhile so I'll guess and be conservative with 24 weeks for 4 outages.  And before I get beat over the head for using RadCon math, thats assuming 4 weeks per outage (16 weeks) plus another 8 weeks in case I'm way off which means 6 months of employment (or more likely wishful thinking, especially when you take into consideration most plants these days want returnees).

Are you wanting 6 months of vacation?

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Re: I want to go on the road
« Reply #4 on: Aug 07, 2013, 04:25 »
There are lots of ways of doing the math and all of them are only partially right... or at least most of them are a partial guess.

Most outages run about 3-4 weeks (some longer ones are still available but they are getting more scarce.) There is usually at least a partial week of training/testing first so most techs are brought in a week in advance, some 2 weeks depending on outage preps... but those are 40 hour weeks. Some techs are let go before the 3 (or 4)  weeks is up, but some outages run over and techs are kept longer. In short it is a lot of averaging and guesstimating but average (for techs that are not routinely on the 'first out' list) is probably 3.5 weeks of long hours and one or two of 40 hours. So four outages, if you don't get in on a long one, makes 12 to 16 weeks with overtime and 4 to 8 weeks of no overtime. The overtime weeks give about 80 - 88 equivalent hours (roughly) so you get about 32 to 44 equivalent weeks. Three quarters of a year is 39 weeks, so it is like being employed for 9 months. Get recognized as someone that the utilities all want to keep around, either for work ethic or unusual skills and the length of your stay can grow.

If you live on less than your perdiem allotment and have leftovers, that can add up to another couple of weeks (or not... don't forget to claim it as income if you do!  ;)) Throw in some unemployment and (depending on the states you work) you will do OK... but not great. If your lifestyle is not too elaborate and you put your summers to good use it can be a pretty good way to live.

And to the OP -- yes, your experience is enough to do as well as or better than the average road tech. Just be open to doing things very differently than what you were always told was the only way to do them.
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Re: I want to go on the road
« Reply #5 on: Aug 07, 2013, 04:38 »

....Most outages run about 3-4 weeks..............and the length of your stay can grow.....


outages which run over 60 days can result in an hours cut,...YMMV,... [coffee]

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Re: I want to go on the road
« Reply #6 on: Aug 07, 2013, 04:49 »
outages which run over 60 days can result in an hours cut,...YMMV,... [coffee]

Sometimes true... but then you are in outage gravy territory (or grave, if you have another outage to go to and can't get released) in which case the referenced numbers change. Sometimes better, sometimes worse.
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Re: I want to go on the road
« Reply #7 on: Aug 07, 2013, 05:27 »
Much better information than I posted.  I also noticed Bartlett has several outages listed together and I'm guessing its to travel from one site to the next within the same company.  How well does that work?

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Re: I want to go on the road
« Reply #8 on: Aug 07, 2013, 05:56 »
Much better information than I posted.  I also noticed Bartlett has several outages listed together and I'm guessing its to travel from one site to the next within the same company.  How well does that work?

I have worked Bartlett 'circuits' before (two, three, or even 4 linked outages) and as long as you set them up right it works very well... if you can get from one place to the next quickly enough. I literally worked a 12 hour day at one site (a couple of those hours were 'body count credit' hours) on a Sunday (Superbowl Sunday as a matter of fact) and twelve hours on Monday at another plant -- that was only about 2 hours drive away. At the end of the second outage I had two days to travel about 750 miles to report at the next plant and then I had two days to get from there (Pennsylvania) to Florida for the next outage. I had to leave the PA outage before they wanted me to go and it was a bit dicey, but since it had been arranged in advance (by the contract company) it all worked... but I would not suggest trying anything that complex.

I guess the answer to 'How well does it work' is like a lot of other answers -- it depends on the plants, the timing, your tolerance of being jerked around a little, you willingness to drive a lot on short rest and with little time and how hungry you are. I got a lot of hours into one outage season that way. I would not make a routine out of what I did, but a two or possibly three outage 'chain' would probably be OK.
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"Politics is supposed to be the second-oldest profession. I have come to understand that it bears a very close resemblance to the first."
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Offline Dagon

Re: I want to go on the road
« Reply #9 on: Aug 07, 2013, 06:36 »
61 NOmad   Radiation Safety Tech.  Power Plant.

I think I could live on 24K pretty easy.  Would teching get me there?

Offline 61nomad

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« Reply #10 on: Aug 07, 2013, 08:13 »
24k?  Damn i'm jealous!! This is the perfect job for you. You can make that working one decent outage a year and then have ten months off. Counting unemployment, you could add 10-15k to that. Choose your state carefully for max benefit.

Offline Dagon

Re: I want to go on the road
« Reply #11 on: Aug 07, 2013, 09:50 »
What are the best states for unemployment?  I was looking at moving to PA.

Offline 61nomad

Re: I want to go on the road
« Reply #12 on: Aug 07, 2013, 10:13 »
It goes by the state you work in, not the one in which you have a permanent residence. Permanent residence is a whole different topic, but you need one in order to get per diem. It has to be further than commuting distance from where you work.
Without googling it, PA is one of the handful of better states.

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Re: I want to go on the road
« Reply #13 on: Aug 07, 2013, 10:58 »
Ok I am about to go on the road as a contract instructor. When a contract ends in a state I take it one can file for Unemployment?

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Re: I want to go on the road
« Reply #14 on: Aug 07, 2013, 11:30 »
You might have to file in the state you just quit your job in.  Depends on how long your contract is at the next job site so you can get some "mature" quarters to file off of in your new job state.  Some states have "alternative filing", so this might not apply.  But if the state you just quit your job in has a higher weekly unemp wage, it should be a no brainer, just file in that one.  You have to file in a state you have "good" quarters in (last 5 quarters not including the one you're in, but this varies slightly by state).

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« Reply #15 on: Aug 08, 2013, 12:01 »
Ok I'll have some questions

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Re: I want to go on the road
« Reply #16 on: Aug 08, 2013, 12:41 »
You might have to file in the state you just quit your job in.  Depends on how long your contract is at the next job site so you can get some "mature" quarters to file off of in your new job state.  Some states have "alternative filing", so this might not apply.  But if the state you just quit your job in has a higher weekly unemp wage, it should be a no brainer, just file in that one.  You have to file in a state you have "good" quarters in (last 5 quarters not including the one you're in, but this varies slightly by state).
This is not quite accurate. You must have earned wages in the state you wish to file. You then file what's called a "combined state wage claim" which totals all wages from the last 4 or 5 quarters in the state you are filing against thus maximizing your potential benefit. States to make sure you work in include: WA; MA; and NJ off the top of my head. As long as you have wages in one of these states you're looking at a max benefit of $600.00 a week or more. Hope this helps!  :)
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Re: I want to go on the road
« Reply #17 on: Aug 08, 2013, 08:16 »
PA is a very good state to file in and has a good payout. When I last filed there (many years ago so YMMV) you could file if you worked there, lived there or even if you lived in a bordering state.
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Re: I want to go on the road
« Reply #18 on: Aug 08, 2013, 01:05 »
I have been doing contract HP work fulltime since the economy tanked 5 years ago on my hardwood flooring business. I have found that if you show up for outages with a "can do" attitude and keep your nose clean, many plants will find projects to bring you in early and keep you beyond the outage. You must be flexible. Bartlett has kept me employed 9-11 months per year for the past 5 years. I have been able to collect an avg. $600/wk in Wash.,Pa, or NJ.  FYI

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Re: I want to go on the road
« Reply #19 on: Aug 08, 2013, 09:16 »
What wasn't accurate Wraith??, I will correct it and file it away in my brain.

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Re: I want to go on the road
« Reply #20 on: Aug 09, 2013, 09:37 »
I have been a house tech for >20 years and I think it is time to go on the road.  Is it possible to do 3 or 4 outages a year?  I really want to see the country and work at different plants. I have no ties and nothing to stay here for.  Being a senior RST must account for something in the HP world of employment.

If you have a permanent job in this horrible economy and health benefits that would be something to stay for.  If you are close to retirement, early retire first then go.  You make the traveling sound glamorous. It is not.  You really don't have time to see anything except the highway.  How can a person have no ties after living at a place for 20 years?  The road is a lonely place unless you have family you are working for and going back to when a job finishes.

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Re: I want to go on the road
« Reply #21 on: Aug 09, 2013, 10:25 »
If you have a permanent job in this horrible economy and health benefits that would be something to stay for.  If you are close to retirement, early retire first then go.  You make the traveling sound glamorous. It is not.  You really don't have time to see anything except the highway.  How can a person have no ties after living at a place for 20 years?  The road is a lonely place unless you have family you are working for and going back to when a job finishes.

You are taking your opinions and feelings and assuming they are true for everyone.

I know the OP (I was not sure of that at first, but we have been in contact) and the situation and understand the desire to go do something different. The road can be a very interesting place for exactly the reasons you consider it to be a bad idea. It is not for everybody nor for every time of a person's life. But is can be a way to see different places, get away from places you no longer want to be (or that just no longer provide you with enough value) and it can be a far less lonely place than where you are... it is all a very personal decision made for very personal (and widely varied) reasons. Don't assume that your feelings are universal.

The road can be a liberating place to be depending on your circumstances. If you have no reason to be in a particular place at a given time you have a lot of opportunities to stick around the places you go and actually see the areas you work in. If you have a family to go home to, you lose that ability and end up with an outlook on the road similar to yours.
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Re: I want to go on the road
« Reply #22 on: Aug 09, 2013, 12:04 »
You are taking your opinions and feelings and assuming they are true for everyone.

Well said RDT

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« Reply #23 on: Aug 09, 2013, 12:05 »
You are taking your opinions and feelings and assuming they are true for everyone.

I know the OP (I was not sure of that at first, but we have been in contact) and the situation and understand the desire to go do something different. The road can be a very interesting place for exactly the reasons you consider it to be a bad idea. It is not for everybody nor for every time of a person's life. But is can be a way to see different places, get away from places you no longer want to be (or that just no longer provide you with enough value) and it can be a far less lonely place than where you are... it is all a very personal decision made for very personal (and widely varied) reasons. Don't assume that your feelings are universal.

The road can be a liberating place to be depending on your circumstances. If you have no reason to be in a particular place at a given time you have a lot of opportunities to stick around the places you go and actually see the areas you work in. If you have a family to go home to, you lose that ability and end up with an outlook on the road similar to yours.

KUDOS!  That is probably the best explanation I've ever read describing the "lure of the road".

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Re: I want to go on the road
« Reply #24 on: Aug 09, 2013, 02:10 »
Yeah really, I've had 2 house jobs and prefer the road by far!! 

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Re: I want to go on the road
« Reply #25 on: Aug 09, 2013, 02:31 »
Well said RDT

That same argument can be made for joining the military or working overseas.  I have seen nothing here talking of our real motivation for working, traveling or anything else.  We work to make money.  I would say that anyone won the 149 million lottery they would not work 12 hour days 6-7 days a week.  When I am on the road it is just work first and not much time for anything else.  It is like exchanging 3 months of life at a time.  At the end, will you have had a good life to show for it?  Or do you end up mainly alone and you miss your kids or your grandkids moments?  I work and travel because I have to.  It is a duty and I see no glory in it.  We all must work until we either retire or die.

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« Reply #26 on: Aug 09, 2013, 03:44 »
That same argument can be made for joining the military or working overseas.  I have seen nothing here talking of our real motivation for working, traveling or anything else.  We work to make money.  I would say that anyone won the 149 million lottery they would not work 12 hour days 6-7 days a week.  When I am on the road it is just work first and not much time for anything else.  It is like exchanging 3 months of life at a time.  At the end, will you have had a good life to show for it?  Or do you end up mainly alone and you miss your kids or your grandkids moments?  I work and travel because I have to.  It is a duty and I see no glory in it.  We all must work until we either retire or die.

go house somewhere and stop your yapping,... :-[

to the OP:

take the option to organize your life, travel and work, then travel for pleasure, then work some more, then combine them, all the while thanking your Maker that we live in a country where that option is as easy to do as: jump in your car, get on the interstate, show up on time, take some simple tests, go to work, draw a paycheck,...

or,......

you could be this guy (who we all have met somewhere):

stay home with the same old crowd for 30+ years bitching about how you can't wait 'til you can retire for the last 7 years of your career and frankly pissing everybody else off around you who has to listen to your incessant whining about how you're stuck because you have too much invested that you cannot quit and on and on and on,....

good grief already Content1, pick a mountain and die on it, face the adversity of your mountain with a smile and a laugh as you swing your battleaxe and die a good death,...

nobody gets paid to stay at home and watch their kids and grandkids moments,...except maybe Marian Robinson,...

there's somebody around these forums that just spent two years in Cambodia relishing life, learning all kinds of new stuff and oh yeah, I almost forgot,..........working,....

last I checked, he wasn't getting paid 6 figures by the Corps,...

he always writes to us as if he is among the most content folks on the planet,....

to the OP,...good luck, do you what ya gotta do 'cause you gotta live with it....

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Re: I want to go on the road
« Reply #27 on: Aug 09, 2013, 03:51 »
It is not for everybody nor for every time of a person's life. But is can be a way to see different places, get away from places you no longer want to be (or that just no longer provide you with enough value) and it can be a far less lonely place than where you are... it is all a very personal decision made for very personal (and widely varied) reasons. Don't assume that your feelings are universal.

The road can be a liberating place to be depending on your circumstances. If you have no reason to be in a particular place at a given time you have a lot of opportunities to stick around the places you go and actually see the areas you work in. If you have a family to go home to, you lose that ability and end up with an outlook on the road similar to yours.

When I am on the road it is just work first and not much time for anything else.  It is like exchanging 3 months of life at a time.  At the end, will you have had a good life to show for it?  Or do you end up mainly alone and you miss your kids or your grandkids moments?  I work and travel because I have to.  It is a duty and I see no glory in it.  We all must work until we either retire or die.

   Perspective is needed here, you are not disagreeing with RDT as much as you are defining your own circumstances. I agree 100% with RDT. When I was a DINK I loved the road and made good use of it outside of work. Now I have chickens, a horse, six cats, two dogs, and a "BossLady" with a house job and am active with local organizations. I am still a job shopper but only locally or one where I am home every weekend.

That same argument can be made for joining the military or working overseas.  I have seen nothing here talking of our real motivation for working, traveling or anything else.  We work to make money.  I would say that anyone won the 149 million lottery they would not work 12 hour days 6-7 days a week.  

That argument could be made but then we are not discussing whether we have to work just the choice. I worked with a tech who wore a T-Shirt that said "Only at sea can a man be free" one may think he is a sick puppy but then we come back to RDTs statement that  "It is not for everybody nor for every time of a person's life."  


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« Reply #28 on: Aug 09, 2013, 08:25 »
go house somewhere and stop your yapping,... :-[

to the OP:

take the option to organize your life, travel and work, then travel for pleasure, then work some more, then combine them, all the while thanking your Maker that we live in a country where that option is as easy to do as: jump in your car, get on the interstate, show up on time, take some simple tests, go to work, draw a paycheck,...

or,......

you could be this guy (who we all have met somewhere):

stay home with the same old crowd for 30+ years bitching about how you can't wait 'til you can retire for the last 7 years of your career and frankly pissing everybody else off around you who has to listen to your incessant whining about how you're stuck because you have too much invested that you cannot quit and on and on and on,....

good grief already Content1, pick a mountain and die on it, face the adversity of your mountain with a smile and a laugh as you swing your battleaxe and die a good death,...

nobody gets paid to stay at home and watch their kids and grandkids moments,...except maybe Marian Robinson,...

there's somebody around these forums that just spent two years in Cambodia relishing life, learning all kinds of new stuff and oh yeah, I almost forgot,..........working,....

last I checked, he wasn't getting paid 6 figures by the Corps,...

he always writes to us as if he is among the most content folks on the planet,....

to the OP,...good luck, do you what ya gotta do 'cause you gotta live with it....

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Re: I want to go on the road
« Reply #29 on: Aug 09, 2013, 08:58 »
Do I understand the flow of this thread?  An OP wants to go on the road for his own personal reasons and it's a free fire zone?  That makes as much sense as encountering a free fire zone on a thread where a road tech is inquiring about going house. 

Dagon: yes, you can work 3 or 4 outages a year.  Plan 2 in the spring and 2 in the autumn.  Talk to the people at each job shop and try to schedule the back to back jobs with the same company, if possible.  That will make things much easier on the segue sequence(s).  Save your money.  Tip your bar person well. Give thanks and don't complain too much.
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Re: I want to go on the road
« Reply #30 on: Aug 09, 2013, 09:04 »
This is a discussion board not a cheerleading board.....

you're killing me,...

Fusion is happening now, next year it will cross over to produce more energy then the costs to produce.   The 14Mev neutron released from the Tritium/ Deuterium (Like in 'Spiderman II') is coming....

We are training the folks for the first 20 Megajoule fusion reactions, watch the news in the next 3-6 months for history to be made.  We are booked for  years to come by researchers wanting to test this technology from around the world.  Sorry to all the Science fiction fans, but high energy lasers are in the x ray range and invisible to the eye.   They all got that one wrong.

cheerleading?!?!?!?!?

please dude, yesterday you're a pom-pom with a keyboard,...

today you're Eeyore doing the ostrich stance,...

.....I work and travel because I have to.  It is a duty and I see no glory in it.  We all must work until we either retire or die.

go buy a megamillions ticket, and good luck winning, sincerely, I think you need it more than anybody I know right now,...

I mean really man, "It's a duty and I see no glory in it."!?!?!?!?!?

oh my word, you travel 'cause the money is easier than working two much lamer jobs at home okay?!?!?

if you were at home working 72 hours a week you'd still be "home" more than you are traveling, but you would be busting your hump to be there, with no finagling a job in Mass. or PA or WA for a shot at $600.00+/week unemployment to kick back for two, three maybe even four months during the summer, because the unemployment office has no clue how to get you an equivalent job to report to within commuting distance of where you live,...

I mean come on already, you've been on these boards a long time, we know about the education jobs and the legal jobs and here you are, a former educator; you can't get a full time gig with good benefits as an educator?!?!?!? you can't get a full time gig with good benefits as a paralegal or better?!?!?!?

c'mon man please!!!!!!

you RP tech 'cause for the coin, being a senior RP tech is good work, with good flexibility in your work environment, and if you're a supplemental and not house you can take summers off!!!!!!!!

please lighten up with all the dearth and gloom about no jobs, and no possibility, and it's so hard,...

you've got other options, if it's so dam lousy use them,...

the OP just wants to know how many outages he can get in per year, are his house quals worth anything, and how to maximize his unemployment,....

which brings up a good question for the OP, is he in PADS and does he have the NEI 14 (15) all set?!?!?!

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Re: I want to go on the road
« Reply #31 on: Aug 09, 2013, 09:08 »
Do I understand the flow of this thread?  An OP wants to go on the road for his own personal reasons and it's a free fire zone?  That makes as much sense as encountering a free fire zone on a thread where a road tech is inquiring about going house. 

Dagon: yes, you can work 3 or 4 outages a year.  Plan 2 in the spring and 2 in the autumn.  Talk to the people at each job shop and try to schedule the back to back jobs with the same company, if possible.  That will make things much easier on the segue sequence(s).  Save your money.  Tip your bar person well. Give thanks and don't complain too much.

well, at least the OP now knows there are happy folks and grumbly folks on the road too,...

                       

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Re: I want to go on the road
« Reply #32 on: Aug 09, 2013, 09:12 »
I'm actually looking forward to going on the road.

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Re: I want to go on the road
« Reply #33 on: Aug 09, 2013, 09:18 »
Do I understand the flow of this thread?  An OP wants to go on the road for his own personal reasons and it's a free fire zone?  That makes as much sense as encountering a free fire zone on a thread where a road tech is inquiring about going house........

There is understanding and then there are BZ's Observations:

BZ's general observation on Internet forums/threads etal, By the 5th post in any thread it starts drifting off topic. By 12 to 15 it has nothing to do with the original topic and if it surives to 30 or so it magically gets back on topic. This applies almost everywhere.

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Re: I want to go on the road
« Reply #34 on: Aug 09, 2013, 09:30 »
Do I understand the flow of this thread?  An OP wants to go on the road for his own personal reasons and it's a free fire zone?  That makes as much sense as encountering a free fire zone on a thread where a road tech is inquiring about going house.  

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« Reply #35 on: Aug 09, 2013, 11:15 »

I mean come on already, you've been on these boards a long time, we know about the education jobs and the legal jobs and here you are, a former educator; you can't get a full time gig with good benefits as an educator?!?!?!? you can't get a full time gig with good benefits as a paralegal or better?!?!?!?

c'mon man please!!!!!!

you RP tech 'cause for the coin, being a senior RP tech is good work, with good flexibility in your work environment, and if you're a supplemental and not house you can take summers off!!!!!!!!


I guess you need to have a post "Political Correctness" rules you can give us so as to not offend the "Superior ideas" you have.  You must carefully never be inconsistent with your previous posts I assume will be a rule.  I will await this posting to insure to not offend.

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« Reply #36 on: Aug 09, 2013, 11:41 »
I guess you need to have a post "Political Correctness" rules you can give us so as to not offend the "Superior ideas" you have.  You must carefully never be inconsistent with your previous posts I assume will be a rule.  I will await this posting to insure to not offend.
you're killing me,...

cheerleading?!?!?!?!?

please dude, yesterday you're a pom-pom with a keyboard,...

today you're Eeyore doing the ostrich stance,...

go buy a megamillions ticket, and good luck winning, sincerely, I think you need it more than anybody I know right now,...


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Re: I want to go on the road
« Reply #37 on: Aug 10, 2013, 07:43 »
I'm actually looking forward to going on the road.

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Re: I want to go on the road
« Reply #38 on: Aug 10, 2013, 12:22 »
Content1   My kids are gone the only tie I have here is my job.  I would never call this place home. The few friends I have are gone.  They hated it here too and found other jobs.  I haven't come up with this plan out of the blue.  I am working on getting my plan together, that is why I am asking for feedback. My biggest problem will be selling my house.
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Re: I want to go on the road
« Reply #39 on: Aug 10, 2013, 12:41 »
you're killing me,...

which brings up a good question for the OP, is he in PADS and does he have the NEI 14 (15) all set?!?!?!

I am trying to get my stuff in PADS but the "person in charge here" has not done it so far.  I am studying for the NEI and think it will not be a problem.  What is 14(15)?
« Last Edit: Aug 10, 2013, 05:54 by Marlin »

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Re: I want to go on the road
« Reply #40 on: Aug 10, 2013, 12:48 »
Jesus.  Guess I better figure out how to use the quotes. 

Anyway I am trying to get my stuff in PADS and I am studying for NEI.  14(15) is that the version of the test?

I really want to thank you for all this great info.  Bitching good too, it adds perspective.

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Re: I want to go on the road
« Reply #41 on: Aug 10, 2013, 02:21 »
NEI = Nuclear Energy Institute. 14(15) is refering to 14 or 15 skills needed by a qualified RP technician.  That is not its proper name, see the links below for more information.  It refers to requirements from NEI 03-04 (Currently Rev 8, December 2012) that defines the skills needed.  The 'studying for' you are probably referring to is the NUF, which is also proceduralized by NEI.  There are a lot of links about the NUF on our site, including study guides and practice tests.

15 Skills Power Plants Look for on RP Resumes (Top of the page in the Radiation Safety board).

You can use our Super Abbreviated NUF Study Guide which recently got added to the Library of Congress. Or our other free study information here.
« Last Edit: Nov 06, 2013, 05:37 by Rennhack »

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« Reply #42 on: Aug 10, 2013, 02:23 »
dood! yinz due that n eye will by the beer!

I'll be instructing, don't know where yet.

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Re: I want to go on the road
« Reply #43 on: Aug 10, 2013, 03:08 »
Jesus.  Guess I better figure out how to use the quotes. 

Anyway I am trying to get my stuff in PADS and I am studying for NEI.  14(15) is that the version of the test?

I really want to thank you for all this great info.  Bitching good too, it adds perspective.

Mike is correct about the technical terms, and for reasons I guess are rooted in tribalism the different utilities approach this skill set / modules / OJT-TPE / MS / etc. differently,...

If you need any more help with this please feel free to PM me and I would be happy to assist as much as I can,...

I do suspect your training department can do an admirable job for you,...

As to the unemployment stuff, I'm close to clueless these days, I have not desired to draw unemployment since 1995 and the paradigm has changed a lot, so don't PM me with questions on that stuff,...

An "on the road" alternative to outage work are long term and short term DnD and short term special projects, I keep my fingers in all three, let me know if you're interested,...

Some are great jobs, a few not so much,...

Since I did not see it mentioned before if you are NRRPT and your registration is current the NUF is probably an "oh never mind", unless you enjoy taking different exams within your discipline just to see how well you can do on them,...

stop laughing Mike, every man has to have his hobbies,... 8)

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Re: I want to go on the road
« Reply #44 on: Aug 10, 2013, 06:05 »
Jesus.  Guess I better figure out how to use the quotes.  

   You managed to delete one of the switches for the quote box, I put it back.

   To respond hit the insert quote button which you have figured out already, make sure you type outside the quote switches they are visible in the "Post Reply" mode. To add additional quotes just scroll down the thread while in "Post Reply" and hit the quote button on the message you want to add to the box but in this case the box comes up wherever the cursor is so make sure it is where you want the new quote box to be.
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Re: I want to go on the road
« Reply #45 on: Aug 10, 2013, 06:43 »
Thank you Marlin.

I just wanted to add another possibility to my flight from Hell.  What if I wanted to live in the South of France and came back to the states to work outages.  How does that work?  I figure some of you must have an arrangement like this.

 

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Re: I want to go on the road
« Reply #46 on: Aug 10, 2013, 06:54 »
Just keep an address somehow some way in the US.  Friends of mine live in Thailand and the PI.  They also have addresses in the US for things like Unemployment.  When you work an outage next time find someone who does it and ask them, there are  quite a few.

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Re: I want to go on the road
« Reply #47 on: Aug 10, 2013, 06:58 »
Thank you Marlin.

I just wanted to add another possibility to my flight from Hell.  What if I wanted to live in the South of France and came back to the states to work outages.  How does that work?  I figure some of you must have an arrangement like this.

 

Not me, but I do know a fella (US citizen) who commutes in from Europe for the outage seasons,...

send me a PM and I'll set up a cyber meeting, if and only if he is willing to that is,...

you know those quasi-Europeans can be a funny lot,.... ;) :) 8)

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Re: I want to go on the road
« Reply #48 on: Aug 10, 2013, 07:15 »
Thank you Marlin.

I just wanted to add another possibility to my flight from Hell.  What if I wanted to live in the South of France and came back to the states to work outages.  How does that work?  I figure some of you must have an arrangement like this.

   In the 70s and 80s when there was so much work you could stay busy all year I worked with a tech who worked enough to spend his summers in Ireland and his winters in Australia. There was a tech who lived in Hawaii and did outages for a while and if I am not mistaken also one who lived in France as you suggest. I am not sure that doing the road today would support that, but it has been done.

 [salute] good luck if that is what you want to do.

Almost forget we all know a tech who took off a year for the Peace Corps  ;)  
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Re: I want to go on the road
« Reply #49 on: Aug 10, 2013, 07:16 »
I just want you guys to know that I really like my job but when that is all you have to wake up to and when your off hours are just hours, there needs to be a change.  I want my job to be a job and life to be a life.

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Re: I want to go on the road
« Reply #50 on: Aug 10, 2013, 07:21 »
....Almost forget we all know a tech who took off a year for the Peace Corp  ;) 

c'mon Barry, that's "Corps" not "Corp",....

it's insidious and it's contagious,...

you need an inoculation,... :P ;) :) 8)

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Re: I want to go on the road
« Reply #51 on: Aug 10, 2013, 10:41 »
Just keep an address somehow some way in the US.  Friends of mine live in Thailand and the PI.  They also have addresses in the US for things like Unemployment.   

Whoa, I think you probably misunderstood. That would be fraud and is a federal offense. Nobody would be that stupid.

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Re: I want to go on the road
« Reply #52 on: Aug 11, 2013, 01:26 »

   You managed to delete one of the switches for the quote box, I put it back.

   To respond hit the insert quote button which you have figured out already, make sure you type outside the quote switches they are visible in the "Post Reply" mode. To add additional quotes just scroll down the thread while in "Post Reply" and hit the quote button on the message you want to add to the box but in this case the box comes up wherever the cursor is so make sure it is where you want the new quote box to be.

Got it thanks...

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Re: I want to go on the road
« Reply #53 on: Aug 11, 2013, 01:52 »
I couldnt get the quotes to work. Tried to quote where someone said you could claim unemployment while living overseas [oops]

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Re: I want to go on the road
« Reply #54 on: Aug 11, 2013, 04:05 »
I couldn't get the quotes to work. Tried to quote where someone said you could claim unemployment while living overseas [oops]

Go to the thread with the message you want to link and hit the "Quote" button in the message.

Copy the entire contents of the "Reply Box" switches and all.

Cancel that "Reply Box".

Go to the thread you want to link that message to and open a "Reply Box" by hitting the "Quote" button in the message you want to reply to or hit the "Reply" button at the end of the thread.

Paste the message to be quoted in the new "Reply Box" adding any new text outside the quote switches.


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Re: I want to go on the road
« Reply #55 on: Aug 11, 2013, 04:29 »
Just keep an address somehow some way in the US.  Friends of mine live in Thailand and the PI.  They also have addresses in the US for things like Unemployment.  When you work an outage next time find someone who does it and ask them, there are  quite a few.

Whoa, I think you probably misunderstood. That would be fraud and is a federal offense. Nobody would be that stupid.


No I didn't misunderstand, plenty of people have dual addresses.

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« Reply #56 on: Aug 11, 2013, 04:30 »
Or second homes.

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« Reply #57 on: Aug 11, 2013, 05:45 »
We just refinanced our home. I'm waiting for Hyperspring to tell me where I am going.

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« Reply #58 on: Aug 11, 2013, 06:22 »
We just refinanced our home. I'm waiting for Hyperspring to tell me where I am going.

   I know that they are talking about multiple residential homes but on the road consider a motor home or fifth wheel. I traveled in a fifth wheel for a number of years and one of my brothers who is still on the road travels in a very nice motor home that he figures pays for itself in the end. Bringing your own home has a cathartic angle as well, you will be living in and bringing more of your own stuff with you. I find that the people in the parks are much more friendly in general.
   I had a home in Illinois for 15 years that I probably only spent 7 years in but with outages being predominately in the spring and fall I got home in time to plant my garden and then harvest just before I hit the road for the fall outages then home over most of the Holidays.
   I made good use of my time traveling. Anytime I was close to DC (especially Calvert) I would pick one of the Smithsonian museums and spend a weekend day there. Each facility probably has something of interest in proximity. At Turkey Point even on 7-12s we got out to see the Everglades and the Coral Castle. I made a couple of annual Turkey Testicle Festivals at a bar near Byron.  8) I could go on for a while but I think you get the idea we found something at or on the way to each facility even if it was just a giant superman in Metropolis Illinois.

Good luck and enjoy.
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« Reply #59 on: Aug 11, 2013, 07:03 »
My wife is going with me. I think most my contacts will be 12 weeks to a year. I need to work as much as possible because my daughter still has 2 years of college. My wife wants to sell our house and buy  2 bedroom Condo in Panama Beach City to use as a home base. I gotta work about 10 or 12 more years.

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Re: I want to go on the road
« Reply #60 on: Aug 11, 2013, 08:55 »
My wife is going with me. I think most my contacts will be 12 weeks to a year. I need to work as much as possible because my daughter still has 2 years of college. My wife wants to sell our house and buy  2 bedroom Condo in Panama Beach City to use as a home base. I gotta work about 10 or 12 more years.

I like that Idea....Mary and I will go take care of it a couple of prime weeks of the year.... A great sacrifice out of the goodness of my heart......   Uhhhh the fridge will be stocked right???

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Re: I want to go on the road
« Reply #61 on: Aug 11, 2013, 10:15 »
Why not. It'll be free!

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Re: I want to go on the road
« Reply #62 on: Aug 11, 2013, 11:18 »
Sweet!

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Re: I want to go on the road
« Reply #63 on: Aug 12, 2013, 01:21 »
Don't forget to consider buying a 5th Wheel or Motorhome!  Sorry I didn't do it sooner, although with 12week to 1 year contracts renting homes might be better....

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« Reply #64 on: Aug 12, 2013, 02:31 »
Don't forget to consider buying a 5th Wheel or Motorhome!  Sorry I didn't do it sooner, although with 12week to 1 year contracts renting homes might be better....
   I know that they are talking about multiple residential homes but on the road consider a motor home or fifth wheel. I traveled in a fifth wheel for a number of years and one of my brothers who is still on the road travels in a very nice motor home that he figures pays for itself in the end. Bringing your own home has a cathartic angle as well, you will be living in and bringing more of your own stuff with you. I find that the people in the parks are much more friendly in general.   I had a home in Illinois for 15 years that I probably only spent 7 years in but with outages being predominately in the spring and fall I got home in time to plant my garden and then harvest just before I hit the road for the fall outages then home over most of the Holidays.
   I made good use of my time traveling. Anytime I was close to DC (especially Calvert) I would pick one of the Smithsonian museums and spend a weekend day there. Each facility probably has something of interest in proximity. At Turkey Point even on 7-12s we got out to see the Everglades and the Coral Castle. I made a couple of annual Turkey Testicle Festivals at a bar near Byron.  8) I could go on for a while but I think you get the idea we found something at or on the way to each facility even if it was just a giant superman in Metropolis Illinois.

Good luck and enjoy.

Two old road whores can't be wrong BZ.  8)

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Re: I want to go on the road
« Reply #65 on: Aug 12, 2013, 03:53 »
We'll see after my first job which I hope comes soon.

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« Reply #66 on: Aug 13, 2013, 12:33 »
Set up a bank account at a bank you expect to run into while on the road - like US Bank or Bank of America.  Use that account for your per diem and road expenses instead of your primary account where your paycheck will be electronically deposited.

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« Reply #67 on: Aug 19, 2013, 12:25 »
Set up a bank account at a bank you expect to run into while on the road - like US Bank or Bank of America.  Use that account for your per diem and road expenses instead of your primary account where your paycheck will be electronically deposited.
When choosing a bank for Direct Deposit of per diem, analyze the ATMs which a bank card is able to use without fee.

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« Reply #68 on: Aug 19, 2013, 03:04 »
When choosing a bank for Direct Deposit of per diem, analyze the ATMs which a bank card is able to use without fee.

Most stores now have the cash back option when making a purchase with your debit card. Buy something you need and hit the max on cash back for your walking around money. Say goodbye to ATM service fees.

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« Reply #69 on: Aug 20, 2013, 09:56 »
Most stores now have the cash back option when making a purchase with your debit card. Buy something you need and hit the max on cash back for your walking around money. Say goodbye to ATM service fees.
That works well for your WAM, and will work just as well with a card that doesn't cost you for tapping the ATM to putting a little heft in your wallet for the weekend. Many brick and mortar banks have no fee costs for other bank ATMs, most are enrolled in card programs that keep you out of the fee charges.  EBanks as well as brick and mortars often not only have no fee costs, but rebate any fees taken by other banks' ATMs. Something to look at when designating an account for DD of per diem.   

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« Reply #70 on: Aug 20, 2013, 11:20 »
What wasn't accurate Wraith??, I will correct it and file it away in my brain.
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Re: I want to go on the road
« Reply #71 on: Aug 26, 2013, 01:58 »
Most stores now have the cash back option when making a purchase with your debit card. Buy something you need and hit the max on cash back for your walking around money. Say goodbye to ATM service fees.

most of the time the cash back amount doesn't qualify as a stripper roll....

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« Reply #72 on: Aug 26, 2013, 02:08 »
most of the time the cash back amount doesn't qualify as a stripper roll....

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« Reply #73 on: Aug 26, 2013, 03:29 »
most of the time the cash back amount doesn't qualify as a stripper roll....

 [dowave] ROFL ROFL ROFL

Most cashiers will give it to you all in ones, if that is your preference. ;)

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Re: I want to go on the road
« Reply #74 on: Aug 26, 2013, 03:33 »
Quote from: HouseDad on Today at 12:58:38

most of the time the cash back amount doesn't qualify as a stripper roll....

 
Most cashiers will give it to you all in ones, if that is your preference. ;)

How you spend your day off is your business.  :-X

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Re: I want to go on the road
« Reply #75 on: Aug 26, 2013, 04:06 »
most of the time the cash back amount doesn't qualify as a stripper roll....

 [dowave] ROFL ROFL ROFL

Thanks for relieving a stressful day of resume updating on a 35+ year work history!

Most cashiers will give it to you all in ones, if that is your preference. ;)

How you spend your day off is your business.  :-X

Quote from: HouseDad on Today at 12:58:38

most of the time the cash back amount doesn't qualify as a stripper roll....

 
It's charity -
Helping single mothers, one dollar at a time... 
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I was hoping SloGlo iced this topic 4 years ago:

yinz ebber wonder iffen dat one dollar bill in yer pocket ever bin in a strippers butt?

for those of us who think in pictures this topic can never stay iced long enough,... >:( :-X :-\

been there, dun that,... the doormat to hell does not read "welcome", the doormat to hell reads "it's just business"

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Re: I want to go on the road
« Reply #76 on: Aug 27, 2013, 10:37 »
I was hoping SloGlo iced this topic 4 years ago:

for those of us who think in pictures this topic can never stay iced long enough,... >:( :-X :-\

n phrum a guy wit a tag quote like yers, aye yam fingering dis two bee a compliment.  [GH] [clap] [Bubbles]
quando omni flunkus moritati

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Re: I want to go on the road
« Reply #77 on: Aug 27, 2013, 11:10 »
n phrum a guy wit a tag quote like yers, aye yam fingering dis two bee a compliment.  [GH] [clap] [Bubbles]

there's a story behind that quote, if I get the chance to tell you over a beer I will, that story is best told with a beer in hand,...

been there, dun that,... the doormat to hell does not read "welcome", the doormat to hell reads "it's just business"

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Re: I want to go on the road
« Reply #78 on: Jan 23, 2014, 11:50 »
Hay I worked for 17 years on the road then my wife said she needed me to help with the kids. I got off the road worked as a maintenance supervisor for an apartment complex. After 26 years she decided she wanted to do something or someone different so she left. Now I am looking to get back on the road. Its a good time for me now. So different people have different reasons for the choices they make one size won't fit all, by the way Im looking for work. got laid off from SEC last year. Holla Please if you got leads

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Re: I want to go on the road
« Reply #79 on: Jan 23, 2014, 04:53 »
Read all previous posts on the subject then ask question, otherwise you will be told many time to do so.

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Re: I want to go on the road
« Reply #80 on: Jan 24, 2014, 09:47 »
 O:)
Hay
fine ally! sum buddy who nose alternative spelling!

yew knead too get back inn, call the dam recruiters.
quando omni flunkus moritati

dubble eye, dubble yew, dubble aye!

dew the best ya kin, wit watt ya have, ware yinze are!

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Re: I want to go on the road
« Reply #81 on: Jan 24, 2014, 11:45 »
LOL Alternative Spelling

 


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