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Did your RECENT NUF test ask about P10?

Yes, it asked about P10
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Offline Rennhack

NUF P10 Question
« on: Nov 03, 2013, 03:30 »
I've been told by a few people that the NUF test they took had a P10 question (10% Methane, 90% Argon).

  Having taken the NUF via NANTEL in Apr 2011 and Apr 2012 at Columbia and Fermi respectively and having reviewed the Amazon Edition of Nukeworker.com Cram Notes (nice job by the way), I noticed the absence of these minor topics in the text.

F18
Glow curve
P10 mix
Gm sensitivity

The two tests I took were remarkably similar to each other and to the Amazon Edition of Nukeworker.com Cram Notes.

I've looked in the NUF study guide, and I see no mention of P10, or Methane.  The only mention of Argon (as a fill gas) is when it talks about GM detectors, and it states "the quenching gas is a halogen gas such as bromine or chlorine".

My question to you is this:  Since the NUF was added to NANTeL, have you gotten a P-10 question? If so, what exactly did the question ask? And what were the correct and incorrect answers?  I find it odd that there would be a test question that is not mentioned in the study material.

I don't doubt wlrun, but subsequent reports quote him so I would like it independently verified.  But it's just odd that there would be no mention of it in the 2005 study guide.

I appreciate all of the feedback.  I'll try to get the next version of the study guide released this year.
« Last Edit: Nov 06, 2013, 05:57 by Rennhack »

Offline GLW

Re: NUF P10 Question
« Reply #1 on: Nov 05, 2013, 12:57 »
I've been told by a few people that the NUF test they took had a P10 question (10% Methane, 90% Argon).

I've looked in the NUF study guide, and I see no mention of P10, or Methane.  The only mention of Argon (as a fill gas) is when it talks about GM detectors, and it states "the quenching gas is a halogen gas such as bromine or chlorine".

My question to you is this:  Since the NUF was added to NANTeL, have you gotten a P-10 question? If so, what exactly did the question ask? And what were the correct and incorrect answers?  I find it odd that there would be a test question that is not mentioned in the study material.

I don't doubt wlrun, but subsequent reports quote him so I would like it independently verified.  But it's just odd that there would be no mention of it in the 2005 study guide.

I appreciate all of the feedback.  I'll try to get the next version of the study guide released this year.

I did sit for the NUF within this year, I don't remember if there was a P-10 question on it, but I wouldn't remember it as it would not throw me back,....

I concur it is not in the 2005 manual, I actually did read the current study manual this year through NANTEL as I had nothing better to do that day, and if P-10 was included in there it did not register with me as something odd to be either included or missing,....

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Offline Rennhack

Re: NUF P10 Question
« Reply #2 on: Nov 05, 2013, 01:36 »
I did a search of the manual, neither methane nor P10 is mentioned.  I took the test this year to validate my book, and P10 was not on MY test, but that does not mean its not in the test database.
« Last Edit: Nov 05, 2013, 01:37 by Rennhack »

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Re: NUF P10 Question
« Reply #4 on: Nov 06, 2013, 11:31 »
I took the NUF on October 21st of this year and there were no P10 questions. Every question I had came from the full study guide or from
an abbreviated study guide made by Bartlett Nuclear personnel.

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Re: NUF P10 Question
« Reply #5 on: Nov 12, 2013, 06:06 »
P-10 gas is used in the proportional region of the gas curve (Hence gas flow proportional counter). This is for proportional counters. Alcohol is used in the the GM region for GM detector quenching. The alcohol quenching gas can actually be depleted at about E10 to E12 total counts(or thereabouts) and the GM tube will need to be replaced with a new one. The "Moe" manual or Argon National Laboratories Manual along with the Gollnick Book explain each region in detail and why the gases are used in each region of the gas curve.

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Offline Rennhack

Re: NUF P10 Question
« Reply #6 on: Nov 12, 2013, 07:45 »
P-10 gas is used in the proportional region of the gas curve (Hence gas flow proportional counter). This is for proportional counters. Alcohol is used in the the GM region for GM detector quenching. The alcohol quenching gas can actually be depleted at about E10 to E12 total counts(or thereabouts) and the GM tube will need to be replaced with a new one. The "Moe" manual or Argon National Laboratories Manual along with the Gollnick Book explain each region in detail and why the gases are used in each region of the gas curve.

Yeah.  We know that.  That question is "If you took the NUF test recently, was there a P10 question on it."

 


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