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Re: Free 1 yr Gold Membership
« Reply #25 on: Aug 05, 2014, 10:39 »
  Wisconsins first commercial nuclear reactor was:
        Point Beach
        Nine Mile Point
        LaSalle
        Oyster Creek
        Kewaunee
OOPSY isn't this Lacrosse?

Offline Frank Cable

Re: Free 1 yr Gold Membership
« Reply #26 on: Aug 05, 2014, 11:24 »
Lacrosse.

Offline Rennhack

Re: Free 1 yr Gold Membership
« Reply #27 on: Aug 05, 2014, 12:44 »
I totally understand that LaCrosse was Wisconsin’s first nuclear electrical power generating station, it's Date of commercial operation is earlier than Point Beaches by a few months.

However, due to it being a federal project, it was considered a "Demonstration Plant", not a commercial plant.

It's not a hill I'm willing to die on, it's just trivia according to the most reputable sources available: Energy Information Administration, U.S. Department of Energy (DOE).

  Wisconsins first commercial nuclear reactor was:
        Point Beach
        Nine Mile Point
        LaSalle
        Oyster Creek
        Kewaunee
OOPSY isn't this Lacrosse?

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Wisconsin's first commercial reactor, Point Beach 1 is one of the oldest reactors still in service. It went into commercial service in December 1970.
http://www.eia.gov/nuclear/state/2008/wisconsin/wi.html

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The La Crosse Boiling Water Reactor (LACBWR) is owned and was operated by the Dairyland Power Cooperative (DPC). LACBWR was a nuclear power plant of nominal 50 Mw electrical output, which utilized a forced-circulation, direct-cycle boiling water reactor as its heat source. The plant is located on the east bank of the Mississippi River in Vernon County, Wisconsin. The plant was one of a series of demonstration plants funded, in part, by the U.S Atomic Energy Commission (AEC).
http://www.nrc.gov/info-finder/decommissioning/power-reactor/lacrosse-boiling-water-reactor.html

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LACBWR was built in 1967 as part of a federal project to demonstrate the viability of peacetime nuclear power. It was funded in part by the Atomic Energy Commission (AEC) in cooperation with Dairyland Power Cooperative. LACBWR had a 50 MW electrical output from a forced-circulation, direct-cycle boiling water reactor as its heat source.[2] In 1973 the reactor and fuel were transferred in full to Dairyland Power.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/La_Crosse_Boiling_Water_Reactor

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La Crosse Boiling Water Reactor (LACBWR) was built in 1967 as a joint project between the Atomic Energy Commission and the Dairyland Power Cooperative as an example of peace time use of nuclear power. In addition, LACBWR was Wisconsin’s first nuclear electrical power generating station.

Commercial operations at full power achieved on August 1, 1969
http://emergencymanagement.wi.gov/REP-GIS/Genoa.asp

As they say, the Devil is in the details.
« Last Edit: Aug 05, 2014, 12:45 by Rennhack »

Offline Rennhack

Re: Free 1 yr Gold Membership
« Reply #28 on: Aug 05, 2014, 12:48 »

Many were guesses, especially about Renhack.  No Lookups also.

VERY close, only 2 wrong.

Offline GLW

Re: Free 1 yr Gold Membership
« Reply #29 on: Aug 05, 2014, 01:40 »
I totally understand that LaCrosse was Wisconsin’s first nuclear electrical power generating station, it's Date of commercial operation is earlier than Point Beaches by a few months.

However, due to it being a federal project, it was considered a "Demonstration Plant", not a commercial plant.

It's not a hill I'm willing to die on, it's just trivia according to the most reputable sources available....

the NRC website has "glitches" for general info stuff,....

this is a well researched piece on the frog hair splittings of defining the early atom splitters:

http://ansnuclearcafe.org/2014/03/20/eisenhowers-atomic-power-for-peace-iii-cap-and-power-demonstration-reactors/

....As we can clearly see, the Government did not pay for the first round of power reactors. These were privately financed with assistance rendered by the AEC as listed above, with any overrun in cost being the responsibility of the owner-operator and not of the AEC.
 
Three reactors were built under the first round of the program—all well-known early nuclear plants. These were Atomic Electric’s Westinghouse pressurized water reactor at Yankee Nuclear Power Station in Rowe, Massachusetts; Atomic Power Development Associates’ sodium cooled plant known as Enrico Fermi Atomic Power Plant near Monroe, Michigan; and the Hallam Nuclear Power Facility adjoined to a coal-fired plant and constituting part of Sheldon Station in Nebraska.
 
The AEC announced another round of this program later in 1955; this round solicited applications for small nuclear plants, of advanced types, by cooperatives or rural power companies. According to the Atomic Energy Deskbook, applications were received but contract negotiations revealed numerous problems, to the extent that the entire provisions for this round had to be revised. Under the second round with the new AEC provisions, “The AEC owns the reactor, bears related research and development costs, and bears the cost of fabricating the first core. The utility owns the electrical portion of the plant and operates the complete facility.” In other words, the second round essentially duplicated the arrangement first used at the pioneering Shippingport Atomic Power Station.
 

Elk River Station – “America’s first rural atomic power plant.” Owned by Rural Cooperative Power Association; built under second round of AEC demonstration program.
 
The second AEC round of power demonstration reactors included Elk River in Minnesota (seen above), which was an ACF, later Allis-Chalmers indirect cycle boiling water reactor hooked on to a previously constructed coal-fired plant, with interposed superheater fired on pulverized coal; the Piqua Nuclear Power Facility, an Atomics International organic moderated and cooled reactor hooked on to the original Piqua, Ohio, powerhouse; and the Boiling Nuclear Superheat reactor or BONUS, a General Nuclear Engineering Co., later Combustion Engineering BWR with integral nuclear superheat, constructed at Punta Higuera, Puerto Rico.  Later on, a fourth plant, Dairyland Power Cooperative’s Genoa No. 2 plant in Wisconsin (most often known in the nuclear world as the LaCrosse BWR), which was an Allis-Chalmers BWR, was added in to the program under the terms of the second round when two of the original financiers dropped out of a prospective program and the AEC worked the project in after the second round had otherwise been set.
 
The announcement of the third and final round of the program came in 1957. The program’s terms reverted to being identical to those of the first round but which encouraged the construction of more advanced reactor types. This round resulted in the Carolinas-Virginia Tube Reactor, a Westinghouse HPWR hooked on to an existing power plant at Parr, S.C.; Big Rock Point, a GE BWR; Pathfinder, an Allis-Chalmers BWR with integral nuclear superheat (comparable in concept generally to BONUS of the second round); and a final concept originally known just as the HTGR or High Temperature Gas Cooled Reactor, which was completed almost a decade later as Peach Bottom Atomic Power Plant, a General Atomics HTGR located in Pennsylvania......



...As they say, the Devil is in the details.


yes they do,.... 8)

been there, dun that,... the doormat to hell does not read "welcome", the doormat to hell reads "it's just business"

Offline Rennhack

Re: Free 1 yr Gold Membership
« Reply #30 on: Aug 05, 2014, 06:15 »
Without lookups, many guesses, no idea about Rennhack's history.

RDTroja,

This weeks free Gold membership goes to the person that correctly answers the following 20 Trivia questions.  I'll even make it multiple guess.


    What plant In 2000 became the first U.S. nuclear power plant to receive a license extension?
        DC Cook
        Oconee
        Calvert Cliffs
        Indian Point

    This nuclear reactor is equal in size to ginna
        Kewaunee
        Dresden
        Fermi
        Ft Calhoun
        Big Rock Point


    The nuclear plant in Redwing Minnesota is:
        Minnesota Nuclear One (MiNO)
        Redwing Point
        Monticello
        Prarie Island
        Redwing Nuclear One (ReNO)


    Oconee is in...
        Flordia
        Virginia
        North Carolina
        South Carolina

    Iowa's only nuclear plant is named:
        Iowa Nuclear One
        Cedar River
        Centeral Iowa Nuclear Project (CINP)
        Madison County
        Duane Arnold

    The first commercial nuclear reactor to go online in Illinois was:
        Quad Cities
        Clinton
        Dresden
        Zion
        Chicago Pile 1 (CP-1)

    The Full name of the Fitzpatrick facility is...
        Jasen A. Fitzpatrick
        Just A Fitzpatrick
        Johnson A. Fitzpatrick
        James A. Fitzpatrick

    Ginna's unit is...
        Westinghouse 2-Loop boiling light water reactor
        Westinghouse 2-Loop pressurize light water reactor
        Westinghouse 4-Loop boiling light water reactor
        Westinghouse 4-Loop pressurize light water reactor


    Which plant has the most nuclear capacity in the southeastern United States
        Crystal River
        McGuire
        Catawba
        Oconee

    The Fitzpatrick plant is located on the same site as...
        Nine Mile Point
        Indian Point
        Ginna
        Three Mile Island

    Namesakes of the first nuclear powered submarines built by Electric Boat were...
        USS SKATE and USS SEADRAGON
        USS NAUTILUS and USS SEADRAGON
        USS SKATE and SEAWOLF
        USS NAUTILUS and SEAWOLF

    Wisconsins first commercial nuclear reactor was:
        Point Beach
        Nine Mile Point
        LaSalle
        Oyster Creek
        Kewaunee

    At which facility was Rennhack's first nuclear job?
       Indian Point 3
       DC Cook
        Callaway
        South Texas Project
        Palisades

    Perry is named after:
        Perry River
        Lake Perry
        Perry County
        Town of North Perry
        Jean-Luke Perry, French Physicist to discover fission in 9/02/10


    Fermi nuclear plant is named after:
        Lake Fermi
        Enrico Fermi, the first physist to split the atom
        Fermi County
        Fermi River
        Town of Fermi

    Farley is in
        Mississippi
        Tennessee
        Alabama
        Flordia

    Ginna is located near...
        Rochester, New York
        Buchanon, New York
        Oswego, New York
        Springfield, New York

    At which nuclear facility did Rennhack work his first outage?
        Callaway
        Indian Point 3
        DC Cook
        Palisades
        South Texas Project

    The world's first nuclear powered vessel was named the...
        USS SEAWOLF
        USS GEORGE WASHINGTON
        NAUTILUS
        USS RAY

    The first privatly-financed nuclear power plant built in the USA was:
        Zion
        Fermi
        Dresden
        Quad Cities
        Chicago Pile One (CP-1)


Offline Rennhack

Re: Free 1 yr Gold Membership
« Reply #31 on: Aug 05, 2014, 06:19 »
Many were guesses, especially about Renhack.  No Lookups also.

Nuke Phantom,

This weeks free Gold membership goes to the person that correctly answers the following 20 Trivia questions.  I'll even make it multiple guess.


    What plant In 2000 became the first U.S. nuclear power plant to receive a license extension?
        DC Cook
        Oconee
        Calvert Cliffs
        Indian Point

    This nuclear reactor is equal in size to ginna
        Kewaunee
        Dresden
        Fermi
        Ft Calhoun
        Big Rock Point

    The nuclear plant in Redwing Minnesota is:
        Minnesota Nuclear One (MiNO)
        Redwing Point
        Monticello
        Prarie Island
        Redwing Nuclear One (ReNO)

    Oconee is in...
        Flordia
        Virginia
        North Carolina
        South Carolina

    Iowa's only nuclear plant is named:
        Iowa Nuclear One
        Cedar River
        Centeral Iowa Nuclear Project (CINP)
        Madison County
        Duane Arnold

    The first commercial nuclear reactor to go online in Illinois was:
        Quad Cities
        Clinton
        Dresden
        Zion
        Chicago Pile 1 (CP-1)

    The Full name of the Fitzpatrick facility is...
        Jasen A. Fitzpatrick
        Just A Fitzpatrick
        Johnson A. Fitzpatrick
        James A. Fitzpatrick

    Ginna's unit is...
        Westinghouse 2-Loop boiling light water reactor
        Westinghouse 2-Loop pressurize light water reactor
        Westinghouse 4-Loop boiling light water reactor
        Westinghouse 4-Loop pressurize light water reactor

    Which plant has the most nuclear capacity in the southeastern United States
        Crystal River
        McGuire
        Catawba
        Oconee

    The Fitzpatrick plant is located on the same site as...
        Nine Mile Point
        Indian Point
        Ginna
        Three Mile Island

    Namesakes of the first nuclear powered submarines built by Electric Boat were...
        USS SKATE and USS SEADRAGON
        USS NAUTILUS and USS SEADRAGON
        USS SKATE and SEAWOLF
        USS NAUTILUS and SEAWOLF

    Wisconsins first commercial nuclear reactor was:
        Point Beach
        Nine Mile Point
        LaSalle
        Oyster Creek
        Kewaunee

    At which facility was Rennhack's first nuclear job?
        Indian Point 3
        DC Cook
        Callaway
        South Texas Project
        Palisades

    Perry is named after:
        Perry River
        Lake Perry
        Perry County
        Town of North Perry
        Jean-Luke Perry, French Physicist to discover fission in 9/02/10

    Fermi nuclear plant is named after:
        Lake Fermi
        Enrico Fermi, the first physist to split the atom
        Fermi County
        Fermi River
        Town of Fermi

    Farley is in
        Mississippi
        Tennessee
        Alabama
        Flordia

    Ginna is located near...
        Rochester, New York
        Buchanon, New York
        Oswego, New York
        Springfield, New York

    At which nuclear facility did Rennhack work his first outage?
        Callaway
        Indian Point 3
        DC Cook
        Palisades
        South Texas Project


    The world's first nuclear powered vessel was named the...
        USS SEAWOLF
        USS GEORGE WASHINGTON
        NAUTILUS
        USS RAY

    The first privatly-financed nuclear power plant built in the USA was:
        Zion
        Fermi
        Dresden
        Quad Cities
        Chicago Pile One (CP-1)


Offline Nuke Phantom

Re: Free 1 yr Gold Membership
« Reply #32 on: Aug 06, 2014, 02:22 »

    At which nuclear facility did Rennhack work his first outage?
        Callaway
        Indian Point 3
        DC Cook
        Palisades
        South Texas Project



    The first privatly-financed nuclear power plant built in the USA was:
        Zion
        Fermi
        Dresden
        Quad Cities
        Chicago Pile One (CP-1)

Lets see how lucky I get this time.  Will be at Cook this fall, so guessed that first.
« Last Edit: Aug 06, 2014, 03:05 by Nuke Phantom »

Offline Rennhack

Re: Free 1 yr Gold Membership
« Reply #33 on: Aug 06, 2014, 10:08 »
Lets see how lucky I get this time.  Will be at Cook this fall, so guessed that first.

We have a winner.  DC Cook was my first nuclear job (WRS), but it was non-outage only. Palisades was my 2nd job (Local company),  it was during a SGRP.  I then went back to DC Cook for non-outage (Bartlett). After that I traveled to Indian Point for my first road job with per Diem thanks to ARC.

Karma to everyone that participated. +k

 


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