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« on: May 06, 2015, 11:16 »
They will be a lot more appealing to the people looking for work so we don't have to call 17 different vendors and ask about 23 different opportunities at each vendor!
Not seeing what the position offers give me zero incentive to follow-up.

But then, you'd have to standardize your pay if you did that.  (Maybe it is time to do so?)

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« Reply #1 on: May 06, 2015, 12:26 »
I've always thought the same thing so I'm glad someone finally asked.  :)
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« Reply #2 on: May 06, 2015, 12:45 »
Utilities don't do it so why should vendors?

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« Reply #3 on: May 06, 2015, 02:21 »
They usually post hourly and per diem only when it is exceptional and the need is great and immediate.  We all remember one time a site the offered a $5000 bonus.  There are actually enough workers if all the outages didn't step on each other, and some sites intentionally do not care if they are fully staffed to lower labor costs even if it overworks the remaining workers.  They are in control and don't see a need to list wages to attract workers; the fact there is a position open is enough to get all the workers they want.  Welcome to the dystopian world for nuke workers.

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« Reply #4 on: May 06, 2015, 02:36 »
Doesn't hurt to ask and at least the OP said please in the heading...

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Re: vendors, please post PAY RANGES in your ads
« Reply #5 on: May 06, 2015, 08:54 »
wail, hail! if vendors listed pay, then they'd be locked in to that number. if they posted a range, they wood have to sell they're butts off to get people two take the low end of the range. aye cannot sea postings changing four these reasons. >:(
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« Reply #6 on: May 07, 2015, 12:25 »
It is similar to what went on with gas prices.  Until they were mandated to post them on signs visible from the street, you had to drive up to the pump to compare.  Look at all the gas wasted searching. 

In a similar manner, vendors usually will tell you if you call, but it is awkward to ask the pay rate then hang up if it is too low.  Then you have to form a personal matrix of the wages verses the cost of the local area.  They want to make it hard so you just take the first one that accepts you.

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Re: vendors, please post PAY RANGES in your ads
« Reply #7 on: May 07, 2015, 04:38 »
It is similar to what went on with gas prices.  Until they were mandated to post them on signs visible from the street, you had to drive up to the pump to compare.  Look at all the gas wasted searching.  

In a similar manner, vendors usually will tell you if you call, but it is awkward to ask the pay rate then hang up if it is too low.  Then you have to form a personal matrix of the wages verses the cost of the local area.  They want to make it hard so you just take the first one that accepts you.

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/why-do-gas-stations-post-their-outrageous-prices-because-well-they-always-have/

And yes, I am off-topic :P
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Re: vendors, please post PAY RANGES in your ads
« Reply #8 on: May 07, 2015, 09:24 »
It is similar to what went on with gas prices.  Until they were mandated to post them on signs visible from the street, you had to drive up to the pump to compare.  Look at all the gas wasted searching.  

In a similar manner, vendors usually will tell you if you call, but it is awkward to ask the pay rate then hang up if it is too low.  Then you have to form a personal matrix of the wages verses the cost of the local area.  They want to make it hard so you just take the first one that accepts you.
make sure they have your name n number before yew hang up on a low baller. then he can tell the client he has a promising candidate for a higher price.
bye the way, eye can remember pulling over two fill up when I saw 19 cents on the sign by the rode.
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« Reply #9 on: May 08, 2015, 02:07 »
make sure they have your name n number before yew hang up on a low baller. then he can tell the client he has a promising candidate for a higher price.

That has worked for me.  I've told them to call me when the price was $$, and they have.

bye the way, eye can remember pulling over two fill up when I saw 19 cents on the sign by the rode.

You are old.  The price of gas hasn't been below 80 cents since before 1979.

http://www.randomuseless.info/gasprice/gasprice.html

From 1979 to 2002 the price was steady around a dollar.

It went from 1.20 in 2002 to 4.80 in 2009. Thanks Obama George W.
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Re: vendors, please post PAY RANGES in your ads
« Reply #10 on: May 08, 2015, 07:43 »
You are old.  The price of gas hasn't been below 80 cents since before 1979.

n i could reed at 75 mph, wile calculating my 12 mpg using a gear driven odometer and an analog fuel gauge.
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« Reply #11 on: May 08, 2015, 10:16 »
That has worked for me.  I've told them to call me when the price was $$, and they have.

You are old.  The price of gas hasn't been below 80 cents since before 1979.

http://www.randomuseless.info/gasprice/gasprice.html

From 1979 to 2002 the price was steady around a dollar.

It went from 1.20 in 2002 to 4.80 in 2009. Thanks Obama George W.


I remember gas at 29 cents a gallon back in 1971 when I was in high school.  I am old; I used a slide rule and saw color TV when it was introduced.  I remember the day Kennedy was shot.

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« Reply #12 on: May 09, 2015, 09:02 »
I can understand not posting pay ranges but why can't they give the locations. I've seen things like "Northeast US" just plain "US" and "attractive area" in some vague geographic area.

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« Reply #13 on: May 09, 2015, 12:43 »
You are old.  The price of gas hasn't been below 80 cents since before 1979.

http://www.randomuseless.info/gasprice/gasprice.html
I'm not sure about that. '86 looks lower than $.80 to me.

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« Reply #14 on: May 09, 2015, 08:49 »
I'm not sure about that. '86 looks lower than $.80 to me.


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#Date  Gallons  $  $/gallon      
01/03/1986  13.610  17.00  1.2490      
01/04/1986  12.132  16.00  1.3190      
01/22/1986  08.341  10.00  1.1990      
02/01/1986  16.680  19.33  1.1590      
02/17/1986  08.629  10.00  1.1590      
02/25/1986  12.938  15.00  1.1590      
03/11/1986  16.993  18.00  1.0590      
03/26/1986  17.794  16.00  0.8992      
04/04/1986  07.674  06.75  0.8796      
04/07/1986  15.400  14.50  0.9416      
04/10/1986  11.374  10.00  0.8792      
04/21/1986  20.949  18.00  0.8592      
05/13/1986  20.313  14.00  0.6892   <-=-=   
05/22/1986  04.451  04.00  0.8987      
05/23/1986  08.500  08.50  1.0000      
05/26/1986  16.620  15.60  0.9386      
06/01/1986  20.017  18.00  0.8992      
06/25/1986  13.900  16.00  1.1510      
07/06/1986  11.245  10.00  0.8893      
07/20/1986  18.624  16.00  0.8591      
08/14/1986  19.069  15.24  0.7992      
08/30/1986  10.633  08.50  0.7994      
09/05/1986  18.040  15.50  0.8592      
09/07/1986  08.500  08.00  0.9412      
09/19/1986  20.370  17.50  0.8591      
10/09/1986  13.390  11.50  0.8588      
10/12/1986  07.200  06.50  0.9028      
10/22/1986  18.630  16.00  0.8588      
11/13/1986  18.040  15.50  0.8592      
11/16/1986  09.500  09.00  0.9474      
11/26/1986  18.040  15.50  0.8592      
11/30/1986  13.300  12.50  0.9398      
12/14/1986  20.370  17.50  0.8591      
Min    0.6892   
Max    1.319   
Average   0.952427273   

The week of May 13th, 1986 It dipped down below 80 cents for a day.  Statistically, that's an outlier.

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Re: vendors, please post PAY RANGES in your ads
« Reply #16 on: May 11, 2015, 06:49 »
I remember gas at 29 cents a gallon back in 1971 when I was in high school.  I am old; I used a slide rule and saw color TV when it was introduced.  I remember the day Kennedy was shot.

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Re: vendors, please post PAY RANGES in your ads
« Reply #17 on: May 11, 2015, 09:55 »
They will be a lot more appealing to the people looking for work so we don't have to call 17 different vendors and ask about 23 different opportunities at each vendor!
Not seeing what the position offers give me zero incentive to follow-up.

But then, you'd have to standardize your pay if you did that.  (Maybe it is time to do so?)

Old nuke worker.

To help bring this thread back on topic.

   If you are on the road it is important to keep in contact and in the memory of the recruiters calling to get info. Even if you are only marginally interested it would seem to be a good idea. Posting money up front can be a sign that the job is hard to fill and money may be the only attractive aspect of the job. It may be nice to have the info at your fingertips but in my opinion not a major factor.

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« Reply #18 on: May 11, 2015, 11:42 »
I can understand not posting pay ranges but why can't they give the locations. I've seen things like "Northeast US" just plain "US" and "attractive area" in some vague geographic area.

They are not trying to hide the location from you, they are trying to hide it from their competitors. It's a cutthroat business and no one wants to give away any more then they have to.

I would expect this plays a part in leaving the wage and per diem amounts off as well.

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« Reply #20 on: May 12, 2015, 12:43 »
https://www.nukeworker.com/job/view.php?job_id=39666

Salary getting there to survive, but no per diem and yet you must not live within 50 miles, what gives there?

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« Reply #21 on: May 12, 2015, 01:23 »
Salary getting there to survive, but no per diem and yet you must not live within 50 miles, what gives there?

You should change your avatar to a glass half empty.

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« Reply #22 on: May 12, 2015, 01:29 »
You should change your avatar to a glass half empty.
Half empty, half full... any good engineer will tell you the glass is too big.
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« Reply #23 on: May 12, 2015, 01:59 »
Salary getting there to survive, but no per diem and yet you must not live within 50 miles, what gives there?

Survive?  Ya'll ain't from 'round here, are ya.

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« Reply #24 on: May 12, 2015, 03:01 »
Half empty, half full... any good engineer will tell you the glass is too big.

I disagree, a GOOD engineer would say...


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« Reply #25 on: May 12, 2015, 03:12 »
Salary getting there to survive, but no per diem and yet you must not live within 50 miles, what gives there?

The average household income there in 2012: $33,563 ($16.15/hr)  So.. 2.5x the local average.

Source: http://www.city-data.com/city/Kevil-Kentucky.html

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« Reply #26 on: May 13, 2015, 01:00 »
The average household income there in 2012: $33,563 ($16.15/hr)  So.. 2.5x the local average.

Source: http://www.city-data.com/city/Kevil-Kentucky.html


2013 POVERTY GUIDELINES FOR THE 48 CONTIGUOUS STATES
AND THE DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA

Persons in family/household

Poverty guideline

1 $11,490
2 15,510
3 19,530
4 23,550
5 27,570
6 31,590
7 35,610
8 39,630

If they, on the average, only make $33,536 per year (16.15/hr), and minimum wage in San Francisco is $12.50/hour, Seattle $15.00/ hour,  that is pretty depressing since it is only $10,000 above poverty for a family of 4.  During my 6 months unemployed I made over $14,275/year (PA) on unemployment alone.  What has happened to our industry?  I could not live on $33,536 a year.



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« Reply #27 on: May 13, 2015, 06:00 »
But you would be making $80,000 a year there plus possible overtime.
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2013 POVERTY GUIDELINES FOR THE 48 CONTIGUOUS STATES
AND THE DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA

Persons in family/household

Poverty guideline

1 $11,490
2 15,510
3 19,530
4 23,550
5 27,570
6 31,590
7 35,610
8 39,630

If they, on the average, only make $33,536 per year (16.15/hr), and minimum wage in San Francisco is $12.50/hour, Seattle $15.00/ hour,  that is pretty depressing since it is only $10,000 above poverty for a family of 4.  During my 6 months unemployed I made over $14,275/year (PA) on unemployment alone.  What has happened to our industry?  I could not live on $33,536 a year.




You're quoting minimum wages from major cities on the west coast. Isn't the job posted for Paducah, KY? The minimum wage there is $7.25. https://www.google.com/search?q=minimum+wage+in+kentucky&sourceid=ie7&rls=com.microsoft:en-US:IE-SearchBox&ie=&oe=&gws_rd=ssl

$40/hr is an excellent wage. $40/hr x 2080 = $83,200

For comparison sake:

It is above or close to the scale for UA Journeyman Steamfitters.
It is well above IBEW Journeymen Wiremen.
Average pay for Registered Nurses is $66,220 = $31.83/hr.
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Re: vendors, please post PAY RANGES in your ads
« Reply #29 on: May 13, 2015, 10:59 »
  What has happened to our industry?  I could not live on $33,536 a year.

hour industry took a hit with the rest of the country during the grate recession. it continues to suffer from people working cheep.
sounds like yew have a massive tacks bill.
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« Reply #30 on: May 15, 2015, 10:29 »
In Idaho they listed the $36/hour plus $132 per diem.  They are sure to fill their positions once the word is out.

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« Reply #31 on: May 15, 2015, 11:29 »
In Idaho they listed the $36/hour plus $132 per diem.  They are sure to fill their positions once the word is out.

Yup.

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« Reply #32 on: May 18, 2015, 05:49 »
Not sure what North Wind is doing different, but I spoke with 2 diff contractors and that $132/day is only for 30 days with receipts.  After that the per diem drops to $72.30/ day w/o receipts.  So that $132 seems deceptive.  People will always inquire, but the truth has to come out.

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« Reply #33 on: May 18, 2015, 06:01 »
You're quoting minimum wages from major cities on the west coast. Isn't the job posted for Paducah, KY? The minimum wage there is $7.25. https://www.google.com/search?q=minimum+wage+in+kentucky&sourceid=ie7&rls=com.microsoft:en-US:IE-SearchBox&ie=&oe=&gws_rd=ssl

$40/hr is an excellent wage. $40/hr x 2080 = $83,200

For comparison sake:

It is above or close to the scale for UA Journeyman Steamfitters.
It is well above IBEW Journeymen Wiremen.
Average pay for Registered Nurses is $66,220 = $31.83/hr.

I agree it is a good wage if you are in the business of uprooting your house or paying for 2 residences to do so.  Per diem is useful for a reason.  I would rather have the lower hourly pay with the perdiem...it's not cute when u are taking care of 2 residences and payings 30+ percent in taxes.  That's where the loss comes in!!

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« Reply #34 on: May 18, 2015, 06:43 »
wanting too work four lower wages two get per diem is counter productive to raising the pay rate fore yore work group. p.d. should bee in addition two the rate, the rate should knot be adjusted too allow fore diem.
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« Reply #35 on: May 18, 2015, 10:31 »
I agree it is a good wage if you are in the business of uprooting your house or paying for 2 residences to do so.  Per diem is useful for a reason.  I would rather have the lower hourly pay with the perdiem...it's not cute when u are taking care of 2 residences and payings 30+ percent in taxes.  That's where the loss comes in!!

The duration is listed as long term (I read >1yr), so odds are that per diem wouldn't apply. As we all know living expenses can be a tax deduction. Furthermore, if you figure $1000 per month for rent and utilities that works out to $6.58 per hour on 40 hour weeks. So your wage would be more like $33.42 per hour and not accounting for any overtime. Still a pretty darn good wage. [2cents]

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« Reply #36 on: May 18, 2015, 12:29 »
The duration is listed as long term (I read >1yr), so odds are that per diem wouldn't apply. As we all know living expenses can be a tax deduction. Furthermore, if you figure $1000 per month for rent and utilities that works out to $6.58 per hour on 40 hour weeks. So your wage would be more like $33.42 per hour and not accounting for any overtime. Still a pretty darn good wage. [2cents]

That has been the problem with  Idaho, they  usually didn't pay per diem nor travel.  $40/hour and maintaining a separate household pushes you into higher tax brackets that you may reduce at tax time.  Lower wages with higher per diem where you don't have to keep receipts is the easiest way.  Having a high income with a lot of deductions may trigger an audit, not something anyone wants.  Let's all face then elephant in the room.  The money for the travel really hasn't changed in years and the economy may never warrant the former relative high wages.  With tons coming out colleges and  intern programs, there is no  incentive to raise wages.

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« Reply #37 on: May 18, 2015, 12:52 »
That has been the problem with  Idaho, they  usually didn't pay per diem nor travel.  $40/hour and maintaining a separate household pushes you into higher tax brackets that you may reduce at tax time.  Lower wages with higher per diem where you don't have to keep receipts is the easiest way.  Having a high income with a lot of deductions may trigger an audit, not something anyone wants.  Let's all face then elephant in the room.  The money for the travel really hasn't changed in years and the economy may never warrant the former relative high wages.  With tons coming out colleges and  intern programs, there is no  incentive to raise wages.
All very good points. Per diem at the actual GSA rate is very rare as well.

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« Reply #38 on: May 18, 2015, 01:18 »
Not sure what North Wind is doing different, but I spoke with 2 diff contractors and that $132/day is only for 30 days with receipts.  After that the per diem drops to $72.30/ day w/o receipts.  So that $132 seems deceptive.  People will always inquire, but the truth has to come out.

Back in 04 when I went to Idaho they had the same deal.  Since it was per diem with receipts, you naturally went to the most expensive place, even above the per diem rate, and the hotel  lowered it to  the per diem max.  I had to find a place to rent before the gravy train ended.  I would have rather had slightly higher per diem and not play the games.

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Per diem at the actual GSA rate is very rare as well.

DCPP pays GSA per diem rates, at least as of last outage. Don't know if anyone else does.

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« Reply #40 on: May 18, 2015, 07:21 »
The duration is listed as long term (I read >1yr), so odds are that per diem wouldn't apply. As we all know living expenses can be a tax deduction. Furthermore, if you figure $1000 per month for rent and utilities that works out to $6.58 per hour on 40 hour weeks. So your wage would be more like $33.42 per hour and not accounting for any overtime. Still a pretty darn good wage. [2cents]

Once again I would rather have the non-taxable money.  Not sure how you figure $70,000 is good money when you are supporting 2 residences.  This job is long term and no one is paying relocation, so once again you are out of pocket to get there.  I been on the outage train for  about three years my last salaried job was $32.50 hr, I will say with the per diem, I do better working the outages and collecting my unemployment every year.  So I don't understand why there is an incentive for people to lose their per diem, not to mention if you work overtime, you place yourself in a higher tax bracket.  Even if you only received $100/day per diem for 7 days and worked 40 hrs a week I would rather have the $28hr+ per diem for a year, with the option to stay longer.  As the $700=$17.50hr on forty hours and guess what....IT'S NOT TAXED!! We can go back and forth about this all day but at the end of the day non-taxable money is more valuable than taxable money any day of the week.  When I get a job offering salary I deduct 30% off the top, because that's about what I have to live off.  Tax deductions happen at the end of the year.   I don't live once a year I live everyday!!  I'll continue to live by my math because it seems to work better for me!!!  By the way I came up with $28/hr because 30% of $40 is $12 that's about how much you are losing every hour in taxes, that you may or may not get back at the end of the year!! Even if it was just 20% you are still only bringing home $32/hr.

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« Reply #41 on: May 19, 2015, 06:10 »
The answer is simple: Don't apply for the job.  And, if approached, don't accept.  All the rest is just hand-waving and gum-flapping.

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« Reply #42 on: May 19, 2015, 07:04 »
The answer is simple: Don't apply for the job.  And, if approached, don't accept.  All the rest is just hand-waving and gum-flapping.


I WON'T AND DON'T!!! However I am into have healthy discussions and debates, this information always tend to help others!!!
« Last Edit: May 19, 2015, 07:05 by Glowing Green »

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« Reply #43 on: May 20, 2015, 12:50 »
Even if you only received $100/day per diem for 7 days and worked 40 hrs a week I would rather have the $28hr+ per diem for a year, with the option to stay longer.  As the $700=$17.50hr on forty hours and guess what....IT'S NOT TAXED!!  

This has gotten very far  [OT]

I'm not the tax expert, however, once you go over 12 months it is taxable back to the first day!
« Last Edit: May 20, 2015, 01:32 by OldHP »
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« Reply #44 on: May 20, 2015, 02:53 »
Once again I would rather have the non-taxable money.  Not sure how you figure $70,000 is good money when you are supporting 2 residences.  This job is long term and no one is paying relocation, so once again you are out of pocket to get there.  I been on the outage train for  about three years my last salaried job was $32.50 hr, I will say with the per diem, I do better working the outages and collecting my unemployment every year.  So I don't understand why there is an incentive for people to lose their per diem, not to mention if you work overtime, you place yourself in a higher tax bracket.  Even if you only received $100/day per diem for 7 days and worked 40 hrs a week I would rather have the $28hr+ per diem for a year, with the option to stay longer.  As the $700=$17.50hr on forty hours and guess what....IT'S NOT TAXED!! We can go back and forth about this all day but at the end of the day non-taxable money is more valuable than taxable money any day of the week.  When I get a job offering salary I deduct 30% off the top, because that's about what I have to live off.  Tax deductions happen at the end of the year.   I don't live once a year I live everyday!!  I'll continue to live by my math because it seems to work better for me!!!  By the way I came up with $28/hr because 30% of $40 is $12 that's about how much you are losing every hour in taxes, that you may or may not get back at the end of the year!! Even if it was just 20% you are still only bringing home $32/hr.

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« Reply #45 on: May 02, 2017, 07:33 »
Remember that one day you will have to retire. Your social security benefit will be based on your TAXABLE social security wages for your highest 35 yrs. Don't short change yourself today. As a road worker, do you have a pension? My advice is to take the higher pay rate and the more projected hours of work, and put the maximum amount into your 401K. Of course, if you don't plan to live that long, ignore this advice. Die young, leave a good looking course and have a mountain of debt.

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« Reply #46 on: May 02, 2017, 07:43 »
I'm sorry, off topic. Vendors don't post pay rates because they hire people to sit a desk and talk on the phone. they want you to call, so they can have somebody to talk to, somebody different, somebody exciting. And you can may get some good info, gossip, maybe some valuable  info that you never would have gotten by looking at a number on a page.

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« Reply #47 on: May 02, 2017, 03:11 »
Remember that one day you will have to retire. Your social security benefit will be based on your TAXABLE social security wages for your highest 35 yrs. Don't short change yourself today. As a road worker, do you have a pension? My advice is to take the higher pay rate and the more projected hours of work, and put the maximum amount into your 401K. Of course, if you don't plan to live that long, ignore this advice. Die young, leave a good looking course and have a mountain of debt.

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« Reply #48 on: May 02, 2017, 03:14 »
I'm sorry, off topic. Vendors don't post pay rates because they hire people to sit a desk and talk on the phone. they want you to call, so they can have somebody to talk to, somebody different, somebody exciting. And you can may get some good info, gossip, maybe some valuable  info that you never would have gotten by looking at a number on a page.
dang! hear aye thought they didn't post rates be caws they wanted to pay the least wile billing the most. learn sum thing knew avery day!
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