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Offline GLW

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Passengers who did not know what was happening even those on flight 93 only had limited success. The point is that we may not know what to defend against, conduct of the passengers is irrelevant. The next attack may not involve civilian activity taking that out of the Root Cause Analysis not being a sure barrier to the event.

your rebuttal only reinforces the notion that the terrorist threat is so assymetrical, so unable to be defeated, so unrespective of our barriers, that ALL nuke should be immediately stopped because those bad guys are undefeatable and cannot be stopped from torching the vast acres of spent fuel ISFSI pads, or spilling the vast overcrowded SFPs into our rivers and ecosystems and food chains,...

you win, stop all  nuke now,...

actually, in your espoused world view,... the terrorists win,... :P ;) :) 8)
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Have you ever read or helped to write a SAR or a DSAR?!?!?!

I have qualified as a DOE Safety Analyst and QSE.  ::)

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your rebuttal only reinforces the notion that the terrorist threat is so assymetrical, so unable to be defeated, so unrespective of our barriers, that ALL nuke should be immediately stopped because those bad guys are undefeatable and cannot be stopped from torching the vast acres of spent fuel ISFSI pads, or spilling the vast overcrowded SFPs into our rivers and ecosystems and food chains,...

you win, stop all  nuke now,...

actually, in your espoused world view,... the terrorists win,... :P ;) :) 8)

Now you are just trolling.

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MMebbe,... But just a little,....

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ahck, the Yucca scab was pretty well healed over and now you pop this article.   I'm going to dream about Harry Reid and all the other Vegas swindlers who played along with the building of Yucca and once it's ready: pull the plug.   And then try to resell it as a possible National Lab.  The Horror

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I say keep the dry cask storage at the secure site and make Uncle Sam pay for it. Eventually the world will become smart (most likely by force) and the next generations reactors will make that "spent" fuel GOLD.
"But I Dont Wanna Be A Pirate" - Jerry Seinfeld

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The article is about long term disposal not short term fixes and the failure of our government to meet it's commitment to provide one. Stable geologic storage is the only long term solution that is universally recognized even reprocessing or "burning" only reduces the quantity.
sew, aye yam guessing that rail gunning it two hour sun gaught taken off yore table...
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The end game will still be a stable geologic burial unless we want the risk of rockets for off plant disposition.

sew, aye yam guessing that rail gunning it two hour sun gaught taken off yore table...

No just unlikely. Cost, failure rate, and general public opposition but maybe in a hundred years or so  ;)

"Just my opinion I could be wrong." D.M.

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2 – interim comprehensive storage in lieu of undiscovered technology


this is the best current solution because this:


3 – deep geologic storage


is irreversible,....

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this is the best current solution because this:

is irreversible,....
knot if you're elevator runs both up n down....  ;)
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I say keep the dry cask storage at the secure site and make Uncle Sam pay for it. Eventually the world will become smart (most likely by force) and the next generations reactors will make that "spent" fuel GOLD.

I'd bet a box of doughnuts that a long term permanent storage facility built by the Feds isn't accepting commercial spent fuel in my lifetime. Why would they when all sites are either currently storing or planning to build storage at their respective sites, and other entities are offering to build temporary storage at a centralized location?

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I'd bet a box of doughnuts that a long term permanent storage facility built by the Feds isn't accepting commercial spent fuel in my lifetime. Why would they when all sites are either currently storing or planning to build storage at their respective sites, and other entities are offering to build temporary storage at a centralized location?

The current administration running Uncle Sam wants nothing to do with making nuclear viable over the long term.

e.g.

1 - cancelling Yucca Mountain

2 - cancelling by regulation obfuscation fiat Skull Valley ( http://archive.sltrib.com/story.php?ref=/sltrib/politics/55513674-90/consortium-friday-license-nrc.html.csp )

cannot wait to see which "Friends of the Court" come out of the weeds for this next, viable, plan:

http://www.holtecinternational.com/2015/04/holtec-partners-with-elea-llc-in-new-mexico-to-build-consolidated-interim-storage-facility/

a box of doughnuts?!?!?

you cannot win a box of doughnuts bet on any viable plan in this country under the current geoacademiapolitical pedagogy,... [coffee]

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The current administration running Uncle Sam wants nothing to do with making nuclear viable over the long term.

Current or future administration, the bet is good for the remainder of my lifetime, however long that may be....

a box of doughnuts?!?!?

Hey, regardless of the odds, I can't afford to wager high. I have a family to feed. I guess I could spring for coffee as well.

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I'd bet a box of doughnuts that a long term permanent storage facility built by the Feds isn't accepting commercial spent fuel in my lifetime. Why would they when all sites are either currently storing or planning to build storage at their respective sites, and other entities are offering to build temporary storage at a centralized location?

You may be right but it will not be without consequences:

Government Liabilities

The Department of Energy was required by the Nuclear Waste Policy Act of 1982 to begin removing used fuel from reactor sites by 1998. The government’s failure to do so has resulted in nearly $2 billion in court-awarded damage settlements being paid from the taxpayer-funded Judgment Fund to compensate energy companies for storing the used fuel onsite. Damages could reach more than $20 billion by 2020 and up to $500 million annually after 2020.

http://www.nei.org/Issues-Policy/Nuclear-Waste-Management/Disposal

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Damages could reach more than $20 billion by 2020 and up to $500 million annually after 2020.

Add it to the list: http://www.flake.senate.gov/public/_cache/files/03714fa3-e01d-46a1-9c19-299533056741/wastebook---the-farce-awakens.pdf

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......Hey, regardless of the odds, I can't afford to wager high. I have a family to feed. I guess I could spring for coffee as well.

you misunderstand,...

a box of doughnuts is too high a wager,... 8)

but as a long as you are springing for coffee:


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