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Clickbait story- the heck with Yucca, the people of Nevada and their bait & switch politicians.  Reid might be gone, but Nevada will pull the same garbage if we waste more tax dollars trying to revive that hole in the ground.  The only thing Yucca is good for is one last underground test to permanently seal off that nightmare. Energy Secretary Rick Perry and the west Texas facility are a lot closer to finding a home for long-term reactor waste storage and the under-educated author is clueless on this fact/option.

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Clickbait story- the heck with Yucca, the people of Nevada and their bait & switch politicians.  Reid might be gone, but Nevada will pull the same garbage if we waste more tax dollars trying to revive that hole in the ground.  The only thing Yucca is good for is one last underground test to permanently seal off that nightmare. Energy Secretary Rick Perry and the west Texas facility are a lot closer to finding a home for long-term reactor waste storage and the under-educated author is clueless on this fact/option.

It is a bit general but it is not the only article I have seen expressing the same view. If you do a search on the subject there are a number articles that tend to say the same thing to one degree or another.
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and the under-educated author is clueless on this fact/option.

Not so much:

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for him to only cite a pathetic location that will take 20 years to revive is a complete whiff on his part, regardless of his resume.  I just don't want to be burned again by Nevada (fool me once, fool me twice...).  Other options are now available, and for the near future, he failed to choose something that will open in my lifetime.

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for him to only cite a pathetic location that will take 20 years to revive is a complete whiff on his part, regardless of his resume.  I just don't want to be burned again by Nevada (fool me once, fool me twice...).  Other options are now available, and for the near future, he failed to choose something that will open in my lifetime.

Fair enough, but is there a better option? West Texas would not be any quicker. 4 to 8 years of Trump could be the difference which is what I think the author was talking about. Me personally I like the traveling reactor or equivalent to burn most of that waste but there is not much movement in that direction. Perhaps we could be talking about reprocessing but that would be a slow starter as well.

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http://www.mysanantonio.com/opinion/columnists/bruce_davidson/article/Feds-should-stop-dithering-on-nuke-waste-10856778.php
Article offers to apply one and then the other when the latter is Eventually ready. I'm still never buying it. Sen Reid was not the only one in Nevada throwing up the waste transport blockades.  That State is no more ready to open the floodgates than Idaho is today. It's hard to find a more staunchly republican state in this country and they scream bloody murder every time navy reactor fuel or other waste is considered for INEL. Nevada is full of retired Californians and east coast folks. Same battle.   I'm not saying Texas is the safest choice we've ever seen, but it's nice to actually have a path-forward.

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http://www.mysanantonio.com/opinion/columnists/bruce_davidson/article/Feds-should-stop-dithering-on-nuke-waste-10856778.php
Article offers to apply one and then the other when the latter is Eventually ready. I'm still never buying it. Sen Reid was not the only one in Nevada throwing up the waste transport blockades.  That State is no more ready to open the floodgates than Idaho is today. It's hard to find a more staunchly republican state in this country and they scream bloody murder every time navy reactor fuel or other waste is considered for INEL. Nevada is full of retired Californians and east coast folks. Same battle.   I'm not saying Texas is the safest choice we've ever seen, but it's nice to actually have a path-forward.

Texas may be a quicker option but only for storage. There has been no effort on burial and "permanent" storage. Maybe between the two there is a more solid path forward. A little off topic maybe a railgun firing small quantities at a time from an isolated island in the South pacific. I did a search for anything on this and found nothing serious and current but I don't see why it could not be done. We have a number submarines on the bottom of the ocean without Godzilla attacking Tokyo so there is some data on any failed launches.
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Repository Under A Secretary Of Energy Rick Perry: Report

http://patch.com/texas/downtownaustin/texas-could-become-nuclear-waste-repository-under-secretary-energy-rick-perry

I'm liking Perry:

bad idea, Yucca was a money pit for nigh on 20 years,...

resurrecting Yucca will only surfeit the money spent on a political wagering chip which is demonstrably proven to be forfeit upon the whim of the next POTUS' political pandering,...

let Yucca stay dead,...

there are better options,...

no, we should get on with above ground, consolidated, interim storage,...

the technology is done and proven, the licensing is straight forward, the means and methods are a known and definable quantity,...

as of now: Yucca is a new hole in the ground; licensing, certification, impact studies et al, they all have to be redone,...

and should be redone and needs to be redone; Oak Ridge let out the contracts to remove electrical, monitoring, HVAC and other components and systems back in 2012, they've pretty much gutted all the certified systems inside Yucca, it's a hole in the ground, but just a hole,....

it's a money pit, Nevada has sucked enough money out of the public coffers for a pipe dream Nevada never intended to deliver,...

fool me once,...

WCS in Texas (or a similar site) is the best current, cost effective, interim, scenario,...

(sic)

okay,...

your better option began with studies in 1978, partial construction and certification through the 2000's and ignominious cancellation in 2011,...

that would be about 33 years and about 100 billion dollars, and still nothing, and now essentially needing a clean slate of new funding minus the excavation costs, which amounted to 10% (~10BUSD) of the total spent funding to date,...

WCS can be operational in 5 years or less,...

and then, the little "abandoned" ISFISIs scattered across the fruited plain can be consolidated to one, much more secure, facility,...

the re certification process for casks can be become a standard, continuous routine implemented by proficient persons working on a constant processing line, with all the economies of scale so entailed,....

places like Minnesota, which has strict rules imposed on operating nukes concerning on-site storage, can perhaps become more amenable to new nukes as those on-site storage issues become a non sequitur,...

and currently West Texas (time, place, culture), wants the work,...

it is a great long term jobs opportunity for younger nukeworkers,...

you and others can stick with dinosaur premised big government programs as you wish,...

I'll go with something a bit more viable and able to occur within my lifetime,...

in a nutshell: Yucca is the high level waste disposal correspondent to commercial fusion,...

also:

I'll be reprobate before I'd let Harry Reid double back and find some way to take credit for bringing the "right" Yucca Mountain back to Nevada, along with the thousands of jobs and billions of dollars,...

nah, not happening,...

been there, dun that,... the doormat to hell does not read "welcome", the doormat to hell reads "it's just business"

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Is this before or after he does away with the Department of Energy?   hahahahaha  I know his heart is in the right place but I hope he knows how to get real.

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Is this before or after he does away with the Department of Energy?   hahahahaha  I know his heart is in the right place but I hope he knows how to get real.

well, we did build nuclear power plants before there was a DOE,...

hell, one guy even mentioned that Hematite was spelling UNC before anyone knew how to spell NRC,...

I'm just sayin',... :P ;) :) 8)

been there, dun that,... the doormat to hell does not read "welcome", the doormat to hell reads "it's just business"

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No I'm glad he is there, but the things that come out of politicians mouths on the left and the right....it just amazes me.  I don't usually even base who I will vote for on what most of them say because you just can't or you probably couldn't bring yourself to vote for anyone!!

I miss this guy just for the comedic value.   My favorite one of all time.  I still can't believe this wasn't a "doctored" video...ha ha.  Supposedly this one actually happened!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n3JdcnFZIJw

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hell, one guy even mentioned that Hematite was spelling UNC before anyone knew how to spell NRC,...

Yes indeed!

 


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