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I am a retired Senior  Radiation  control tech.  What do they pay traveling techs nowadays?

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pay is dependent on sight contract.  aye think Bartlett is a bout $27, d$z a round $31, small companies $30 n up.
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Hanford pays $40/hr, $100/day but you have to pass a test and you can only work a total of (I think) 600 hours by the union contract.
Los Alamos paid $38-$40/hr a few years ago plus per diem, then they took away per diem and paid expenses. Not sure how it is now.  Compa had the contract then.
INL probably pays mid $30s/hr and I think they are back to paying per diem again.  You would have to call Bartlett or Marcom.
As far as outages, I think SloGlo is underestimating it by a few dollars because in 2012-2013 I made $32-$38 at Sequoyah, Farley, and Browns Ferry.

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32/85 at oconee, 26/100 at dominion plants, heard a rumor 48/living expenses at INL very recently, 40/115 hanford, 34/80 at srs, 35/120 exelon (including bonus), 35/140 at SanO, 31/110 at southern plants. 40/liviing expenses at los alamos.  40/no diem usually at Oak Creek, 42/no diem at Paducah,  34/110 at Seq/Watts, 38/110 at Browns Ferry, 28/110 at columbia.   these are all estimates and are 0 to 4 years old .  Expect somewhere around 30/110 at most power plants give or take 5 dollars/hr. some places like dc cook pay a little less with a bigger bonus.  DOE sites aat times only pay living expenses and a small $ amount for food or no diem at all if they can get locals/suckers.  A couple plants pay much higher PD like IP and 9mile...150ish.  I think most Entergy plants are about 30 per hour.  Clinton and STP might pay more with some union influence.  Salem was rumored to be a higher than average plant paying 36/130 (that's a guess).  Backup contracts usually pay a higher pay rate with more per diem.

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Fightfortheusers Stay retired! Unless you are bored or totally broke $. Pay rates are flat and even going down in some cases while the cost of living/ traveling keeps increasing. Slo glo and hamsamich were pretty accurate in thier posts.
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And don't forget that congress screwed traveling workers with the new tax law. EMPLOYEE BUSINESS EXPENSES ARE NO LONGER DEDUCTIBLE. Make sure your per diem covers your expenses.


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And don't forget that congress screwed traveling workers with the new tax law. EMPLOYEE BUSINESS EXPENSES ARE NO LONGER DEDUCTIBLE. Make sure your per diem covers your expenses.
https://www.irs.gov/taxtopics/tc511
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They also eliminated moving expense reimbursement. If you are thinking about relocating for a "permanent" job, make sure that your new employer pays all the moving expenses.

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They also eliminated moving expense reimbursement. If you are thinking about relocating for a "permanent" job, make sure that your new employer pays all the moving expenses.
witch ain't applicable two traveling tex. dat sayed, make sure mobe n demobe pay will bee acceptable four yore circumstance.
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SOS 2018 I was making $31.5 with D&Z traveling in FENOC sites. I'm working a remediation job this Fall in order to make more.
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I have been hearing the rumors of back up contracts being let, but no specifics on which sites, companies, or cash yet.
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Fermi backup contract.
DZ is paying $28, per deim $135, and a $1,250 completion bonus.
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this wuzza posting four a $42 par our r.p.t. job.
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no diem....more of a house tech job...that is like getting paid 20/85.   2006 Oconee wages.

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You ask how much Techs make. Not enough for what they are responsible for. Its sad when you are covering a union laborer and they are making more then you.

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You ask how much Techs make. Not enough for what they are responsible for. Its sad when you are covering a union laborer and they are making more then you.
awl ways bin covering those who make moor than eye dew. hail, a bartender in a good house makes moor than a rentatech.
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You ask how much Techs make. Not enough for what they are responsible for. Its sad when you are covering a union laborer and they are making more then you.
What exactly is an RP tech responsible for? Evaluate a hazard (Radiation) and inform the worker. It's pretty simple, and not life threatening, at least in the normal work of a nuke plant. The union laborer actually does things that are life risking, and has to have a skillset (material handling - forklift, rigging, etc) that is harder than RP.
Sorry to burst your bubble - been in this industry almost 40 yrs. RP is not the lifesaver you believe it is.
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Of course, if you don't do your job properly and become "Tech A", it may be a different story. In a nuke plant, a certain amount of knowledge is required, follow written procedures and oral instructions, report to your supervisor, honesty in documentation. The consequences of poor performance is not significant unless it's willful and/or malicious. A traveling road tech is not as lucrative as it once was because of deregulation and management has actually had to figure out what radiation protection really is.

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What exactly is an RP tech responsible for? Evaluate a hazard (Radiation) and inform the worker. It's pretty simple, and not life threatening, at least in the normal work of a nuke plant. The union laborer actually does things that are life risking, and has to have a skillset (material handling - forklift, rigging, etc) that is harder than RP.
Sorry to burst your bubble - been in this industry almost 40 yrs. RP is not the lifesaver you believe it is.

with how ALARA has ratcheted back the dose over the last 2 decades, at times you question whether you still qualify (practically) as an occupational exposure worker,.... :-\

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What exactly is an RP tech responsible for? Evaluate a hazard (Radiation) and inform the worker. It's pretty simple, and not life threatening, at least in the normal work of a nuke plant. The union laborer actually does things that are life risking, and has to have a skillset (material handling - forklift, rigging, etc) that is harder than RP.
Sorry to burst your bubble - been in this industry almost 40 yrs. RP is not the lifesaver you believe it is.
Nobody ever said RPs were saving lives, but the simple fact is that we all have skill sets and a laborer's is not nearly as technical or challenging as a good RP (not all of them are worth their pay, but then again neither are all operators, electricians, managers, etc.) The legal implications of doing RP work are significantly more complex than a laborer, the knowledge required is much higher level and technical skills are more demanding as well. As long as things go well, nobody cares how well an RP does his or her job, but when the fecal matter impacts the rotating air mover either an operator or an RP is probably going to get blamed. If the operator is found at fault he gets more training. If a contract RP is found at fault he loses his job and likely his career. A house RP might get another chance, but probably only one.

As for a laborer doing things that are life risking... BS. Anywhere a laborer goes, an RP was there first (probably before the scaffold was deemed safe.) Any area a laborer works in, an RP is probably right there or was there. Any job a laborer does (rigging, by the way is not normally a laborer's job and RPs sometimes drive forklifts, too) is no more complex or dangerous than an RPs job or most other technical jobs. (BTW, if it was dangerous or life threatening, those of us that are intelligent enough to recognize that would do something about it.)

Everyone has their job. Laborers have no experience requirements and little required training above 'read this sign, pay attention to this siren, recognize this hazard, don't lose your badge.' ALL of the technical fields have more restrictive job requirements. Sorry if you are so blind that you can't see the value in that. Are all RPs worth more than all Laborers... not even close. But again, neither are all operators or managers... or executives.
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Value is in the eye of the beholder. Executives and managers are the beholders that determine the payrates. Everyone's job contributes to the final product. Traveling RP Techs usually get per diem, laborers usually don't. Are we comparing apples and oranges?

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What exactly is an RP tech responsible for? Evaluate a hazard (Radiation) and inform the worker. It's pretty simple, and not life threatening, at least in the normal work of a nuke plant. The union laborer actually does things that are life risking, and has to have a skillset (material handling - forklift, rigging, etc) that is harder than RP.
Sorry to burst your bubble - been in this industry almost 40 yrs. RP is not the lifesaver you believe it is.

While I would agree that in general, during your standard outage, RP is not saving lives. But that said, as a traveling technician, I have worked at least one job (Humboldt Bay) where RP decisions on how work was conducted, prevented life changing, and possibly life shortening exposures.

So, the quote you responded to basically stated that RP was not paid enough for the responsibility they carry. It really didn't say they were saving lives. The responsibility to uphold and enforce Federal Regulations to ensure the utility stays clear of very costly violations and exposure to reputation damaging events in the eyes of the public, is a very important responsibility. It is one that most of us take very seriously, and should. As the most regulated industry in the U.S., we are under plenty of scrutiny from the public and Regulators. The future of Nuclear power and our livelyhood rests on all of us to be professionals and do a good job, but what do you think the public pays more attention to? A worker who makes a mistake and breaks a plant component, or a worker who makes a mistake and lets a few licensed atoms off site, or overexposes a worker?
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Everyone has their job. Laborers have no experience requirements and little required training above 'read this sign, pay attention to this siren, recognize this hazard, don't lose your badge.' ALL of the technical fields have more restrictive job requirements. Sorry if you are so blind that you can't see the value in that. Are all RPs worth more than all Laborers... not even close. But again, neither are all operators or managers... or executives.
What nuke job were you on where you had laborers who had no experience and little training?

I'm not talking about New to Nuke.

I cannot remember when I did any job with unknowledgable laborers. I have worked many sites with laborers who had 4 year (and greater) college degrees. I have worked DOE, DOD, D&D, NPP, as well as the unique projects with some major nuclear vendors. But not without a knowledgeable labor force who earned more per hour, and usually more per week with union OT pay rates, than did I.
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What nuke job were you on where you had laborers who had no experience and little training?

I'm not talking about New to Nuke.

I cannot remember when I did any job with unknowledgable laborers. I have worked many sites with laborers who had 4 year (and greater) college degrees. I have worked DOE, DOD, D&D, NPP, as well as the unique projects with some major nuclear vendors. But not without a knowledgeable labor force who earned more per hour, and usually more per week with union OT pay rates, than did I.

I agree with you to a point, but I think RDTroja meant requirements. I know there are some apprentice requirements but not to the degree of a tech. nor to the degree of entry testing to each facility.

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What nuke job were you on where you had laborers who had no experience and little training?

I'm not talking about New to Nuke.

I cannot remember when I did any job with unknowledgable laborers. I have worked many sites with laborers who had 4 year (and greater) college degrees. I have worked DOE, DOD, D&D, NPP, as well as the unique projects with some major nuclear vendors. But not without a knowledgeable labor force who earned more per hour, and usually more per week with union OT pay rates, than did I.

I agree with you to a point, but I think RDTroja meant requirements. I know there are some apprentice requirements but not to the degree of a tech. nor to the degree of entry testing to each facility.

Marlin is correct. I am not implying that laborers are not good at their jobs or that they do not have skills or experience. The simple fact is there is no laborer test they have to take, no OJT signoffs, no classroom training in their profession, no theory to grasp, no written exams, or any other measure of their skills except doing their job well enough to get invited back to do it again.

Hopefully all nuclear workers are above average compared to non-nuclear workers. Everyone needs to know how to do their job. Laborer jobs tend to be non-technical and have fewer critical skills than RP. The fact that laborers are usually paid more than contract techs is more a function of unions than logic, but that is another dead horse I would rather not beat.
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hear's sum training laborers have at there disposal for a couple months. aye could get a years worth, butt aye dew naught think any buddy is going to look at it.

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hear's sum training laborers have at there disposal for a couple months. aye could get a years worth, butt aye dew naught think any buddy is going to look at it.

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Nice long list but how much of it is required for any one job. I suspect a lot of it is nice to have but not necessary for assignment to most jobs. I would guess a flagger in most cases is given a flag and a short set of instructions and many of the other ones listed are probably in the same category. Not demeaning laborers but it is still not comparable to a tech who really does not have support of a union and limited support from a company that lays them off after every job.

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Nice long list but how much of it is required for any one job. I suspect a lot of it is nice to have but not necessary for assignment to most jobs.


betcha theirs moor than won person reeding this who wood say the same bout are peas. hail, eye bin seeing seniors who aye swear are having senior moments (except there under 40) over m.d.c., m.d.a., x square, a/s formulation, original activity, 1/2 values, 1/2 lives, z factors, ....oar meter reading to mrads. yet lotsa this stuff gets covered superficially in g.e.t four all swinging dosimeter carriers, wile a riggers not oar a knuckle orientation as a tube lock,, wire tying rebar, hydrolaser orientation, bosun chair stabilization, three safe work periods per shift in plastics,  color coding on ropes, etc duzzant.
go figger.
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...not comparable to a tech who really does not have support of a union and limited support from a company that lays them off after every job.


yule never have watt yew donut work four.
allot of labor get layed off after the job is dun.
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betcha theirs moor than won person reeding this who wood say the same bout are peas. hail, eye bin seeing seniors who aye swear are having senior moments (except there under 40) over m.d.c., m.d.a., x square, a/s formulation, original activity, 1/2 values, 1/2 lives, z factors, ....oar meter reading to mrads. yet lotsa this stuff gets covered superficially in g.e.t four all swinging dosimeter carriers, wile a riggers not oar a knuckle orientation as a tube lock,, wire tying rebar, hydrolaser orientation, bosun chair stabilization, three safe work periods per shift in plastics,  color coding on ropes, etc duzzant.
go figger.

We are drifting a bit we were not talking about training and skill in general but entry requirements. As for rigging most of the rigging I have been involved with especially large and critical loads are done by iron workers as is a lot of rebar work. A laborer at most jobs is only required general entry training. If you were to claim that there are laborers who do more than the basics required of most laborers then you would have to admit (well maybe not) that there are RPs with additional skills and training above the standard requirements and difficulty as well.

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yule never have watt yew donut work four.
allot of labor get layed off after the job is dun.

...and have a labor hall to help them.

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. If you were to claim that there are laborers who do more than the basics required of most laborers then you would have to admit (well maybe not) that there are RPs with additional skills and training above the standard requirements and difficulty as well.

Again my  [2cents]
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butt eye am knot caring how much money udders make. aye make watt eye can, ware eye yam, as fast as eye can.

Fair statement I agree.

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"ATL International, Inc. is actively recruiting for SR. RCT/HP Technicians for a per diem assignment supporting the Hanford site in Richland, WA. The rate of pay will be $40.62 per hour, plus $16.00 per hour per diem "

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And I thought paying perdiem based on hours worked was not quite Kosher...
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The last time I looked at the tax law it is NOT. Law states that if per diem is paid hourly it is considered wages and should have all the proper with holdings taken out. I am seeing more companies do this but they are all DOE subcontractors.

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I would like to know where to find if per diem is paid by the hour it is considered wages....that doesn't sound right either.

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It doesn't matter how they figure it. All that matters is how they report it. This is just a devious way that they can reduce your per diem if you don't put in your 40 hrs/wk. Before you accept this job, make sure that it is an IRS qualified plan.

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The Wikipedia info, in part, is out of date, and has been superseded by the changes in the tax laws. Not all US companies use the GSA published rates. They can pay per diem up to the published rate without receipts. It really doesn't matter how they calculate it if it is less than the published rate and it is reported as per diem. That is an issue between the IRS and the payor.

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I heard through the grapevine...

Browns Ferry....backup....$35.00 plus $110 perday...$500 mob/demob....

https://www.nukeworker.com/job/view.php?job_id=83500
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Making moor awn the backups; posted two day...

Looking for 3.1 Sr. H.P. Technicians for a back-up contract in AL. Duration first of October though Mid-November.

Please call for more information and rates.

https://www.nukeworker.com/job/view.php?job_id=83690
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as purr posting in "jobs" today...

Sr. Radiation Surveyor - (5 plus years R.S. field experience) $52.50/hr CAD (Canadian citizens and permanent residents may elect to have $7.00/hr of the advertised salary designated as an RRSP contribution).

Per Diem up to $750/week CAD for ALL eligible employees
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I heard through the grapevine...

Browns Ferry....backup....$35.00 plus $110 perday...$500 mob/demob....

https://www.nukeworker.com/job/view.php?job_id=83500
Making moor awn the backups; posted two day...

Looking for 3.1 Sr. H.P. Technicians for a back-up contract in AL. Duration first of October though Mid-November.

Please call for more information and rates.

https://www.nukeworker.com/job/view.php?job_id=83690


How is the back-up paying more money at 35 & 110 w/500 bonus when primary is paying 39.17/hr 110/day with H&W for the first 40 hrs per week at 4.41/hr?  ...then if you have >5yrs experience, are NRRPT or a returnee the rate does nothing but go up as you check off each of those things, max'n out at 43.87/hr Plus the 4.41 H&W for first 40 hrs each week and 110/diem -

Just say'n...


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How is the back-up paying more money at 35 & 110 w/500 bonus when primary is paying 39.17/hr 110/day with H&W for the first 40 hrs per week at 4.41/hr?  ...then if you have >5yrs experience, are NRRPT or a returnee the rate does nothing but go up as you check off each of those things, max'n out at 43.87/hr Plus the 4.41 H&W for first 40 hrs each week and 110/diem -

Just say'n...


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I just heard that RSCS has multiple techs confirming for Browns Ferry at an hourly rate of $45 and, of course, per diem of $110.

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I just heard that RSCS has multiple techs confirming for Browns Ferry at an hourly rate of $45 and, of course, per diem of $110.


More unsubstantiated rumors and dis-information - where did you get your info, "Baghdad Bob"?

TVA has not issued any back-up contracts for RP.  In fact BHI was asked to implement our 'back-up" clause in our contract.  We have talked to a couple of other vendors, the company mentioned above was one of them.  Neither company has a signed contract to supply personnel, and if/when they do they will be relegated to the same compensation package that BHI has.   Sorry to rain on your parade.

Have a great weekend,

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More unsubstantiated rumors and dis-information - where did you get your info, "Baghdad Bob"?

TVA has not issued any back-up contracts for RP.  In fact BHI was asked to implement our 'back-up" clause in our contract.  We have talked to a couple of other vendors, the company mentioned above was one of them.  Neither company has a signed contract to supply personnel, and if/when they do they will be relegated to the same compensation package that BHI has.   Sorry to rain on your parade.

Have a great weekend,

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Well, I'll be! I was just reached out to because I had not included the $500 mob & demob.
You have a great weekend too!

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Is there a bonus thread for the FOS? I can't find it.
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Is there a bonus thread for the FOS? I can't find it.
Never mind, I found it.

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posted too day 10/29/18 on jobs...
"Pay: $42 per hour straight time $63 per hour over time"
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I just received a shout from the RSCS RTs who went to Browns Ferry.  They are working 7x12 hour shifts, all the aforementioned bells and whistles are in place.

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Big Bucks, No Whammies! Too bad, I'm too old to maintain that pace.
thinking the pace too day ain't what it ust two bee...
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Taken from the Jobs board today.

... for Senior Radiological Control Technicians at Paducah Kentucky....

• Pay: $42 per hour straight time $63 per hour over time....
« Last Edit: Nov 26, 2018, 08:21 by Atomic Archeologist »

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It's a no per diem job. It is not a traveling tech job.

Taken from the Jobs board today.

... for Senior Radiological Control Technicians at Paducah Kentucky....

• Pay: $42 per hour straight time $63 per hour over time....

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It's a no per diem job. It is not a traveling tech job.

Taken from the Jobs board today.
... for Senior Radiological Control Technicians at Paducah Kentucky....
• Pay: $42 per hour straight time $63 per hour over time....

It is still $42/hr.  That's $90k/yr plus overtime.  How many three week outages do you need to work to make $90k?

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~24 weeks plus unemployment benefits. I didn't say that this job was not a good gig. With the benefits, it's very attractive. I just said that it was not a traveling tech job. It's kind of a hybrid. Not a house job, not an outage. Good for someone who may want a short term (1-5 yrs or so), but not so good for someone with a permanent home far way and does not want to or cannot relocate. And don't forget the screwing that road techs got with the new tax law.

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It's a no per diem job. It is not a traveling tech job.


• Pay: $42 per hour straight time $63 per hour over time....

Diem must be included for a traveler? Hmmmm... it's a good benefit, but there are many temporary jobs which are filled by travelers that do not pay per diem. There's also jobs where per diem is paid as a separate hourly allocation. Then there are also jobs which only compensate for acceptable expenses submitted via receipt, with a time lag of a month.
All of these scenarios are for traveling senior techs. Like any gig, you work out the job, or work until a better offer is received.
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Agreed AA, but 42 an hour without per diem is very low in my opinion for a traveler.  So low it is hard for me to consider it a fit for a traveling tech.  But if I was desperate and had nothing else, yep it would have to do.  It would take a long time for me to get there.
 But using it as a real comparison to what traveling techs make....it doesn't belong in that column.

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Agreed AA, but 42 an hour without per diem is very low in my opinion for a traveler. 
 But using it as a real comparison to what traveling techs make....it doesn't belong in that column.
$42 is the hourly rate, and is in the pay rate column. Per diem would be a separate column. Benefits would be a third column. Total of all three columns would be the fourth, the total compensation, column.
That said, jobs with numbers in the per diem column have very low numbers in the benefits column. Therefore, the 4th column generally equates from job to job.

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Yeah they are important, but funny, nobody else has posted much about benefits.  Most people I know are worried how much they will make a week after taxes.  So to me the 3rd most important thing would be expected overtime.  Benefits are becoming more important though thanks to the rising insane cost of healthcare, but most people looking for that are looking for house jobs IMHO.  3 of my friends do excel spreadsheets, and I have done them too.  Never put benefits in there.  Unemployment rates for the states the jobs are in sometimes make the cut on those spreadsheets.  I haven't seen many contract jobs that have good benefits but I do know Humbolt had them and this made it a very attractive job on top of the high pay/diem.  I think the reason benefits are not included in our thought process is because we all expect to be shafted there.  But really, the Paducah job is a house job in my opinion and I wouldn't go there and most of the roadtechs I know wouldn't go there unless they were thinking long term/had strong local connections.  We all see that job come up and everyone I know scoffs at it as a true travelling position.  It is considered a house job, although I'm sure a fringe group of people would travel for it.  It isn't even discussed when people are talking about where they want to go.  I have brought it up a couple of times and people chuckle, I kinda bring it up as a joke...Paducah is paying 42!!! and 63 for time and a half....we all laugh because the 63 for OT is already known but they put it in there sometimes to highlight it, I guess because there is no per diem.   I agree though a column for benefits is becoming more important.  I have worked 4 long term jobs with per diem (2 DOE and 2 not) and the benefits were lacking, but it was nice to have them when they were there.  The monthly price of healthcare premium for a large family is approaching the monthly rate of per diem at some places so hey AA you have a good point, but for those of us that have health insurance, are fairly healthy, or have little family probably wouldn't trade in benefits for per diem.

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I am just putting up the numbers posted to answer the original post for this thread.

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what are Traveling Senior Rad Control Tech earning per hour?
« on: Jun 03, 2018, 07:11 »
I am a retired Senior  Radiation  control tech.  What do they pay traveling techs nowadays?

Since per diem is highly reflective of the job site area, I feel it is a less important component of the compensation package than the benefits, which directly impact the tech a :-X nd family. In addition, the PD paid is what the site and rentatech company negotiate as a pass through number and is seldom reflective of the total amount allowed by IRS regulation. Anyone who has worked a power plant with a resource sharing of utility techs will understand as those techs frequently are paid diem at roughly twice the vendor tech's rate.
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Nobody I know asks "what are the benefits"?  They are usually worried about the payrate and per diem.....you must work with different people than me.  I try to focus on what people I know think are important.  Not that they don't care about the benes, but they want to know how much they are making after taxes each week.

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Pay is what's left after taxes. Diem is what gets you a warm shower and bed after dinner. Benies are what keeps the other half happy.
Your mix, your call, but not considering all is to cheat yourself.

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Totally agree, but most of the time benefits aren't offered or are terrible so it isn't included in the thought process.  Like I said, that job is a house job.  House jobs have good benes and no per diem....usually.

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...  I try to focus on what people I know think are important.  Not that they don't care about the benes, but they want to know how much they are making after taxes each week.
Why do you think threads on pay, such as bonuses, are so widely ignored on this site?

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Why do you think threads on pay, such as bonuses, are so widely ignored on this site?



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The first three of the five text frames say it all.
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Nobody I know asks "what are the benefits"? 
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I guess one thing it has that house tech jobs usually don't have is you are topped out as soon as you start, I presume.

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2nd thing is, that you can leave to go on your next "real road tech job" and have a heck of a wage level in your recent work history to use when discussing wage with subsequent employers.

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sew, let's sea... they're was a backup  job this autumn at $45/hr w/ $110 per diem witch had strong denial of existence. then a job posted (several thymes) for $42/hr that was decried as knot bean a real job four road tex.
is their any reason to wonder why wages stagnate in the biz?
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I'm hearing some disturbing money news. At Commanche Peak, I'm told that RSCS was originally at $33 and $119, and then got cut to $29 and $110 when they got on site. D&Z backup techs confirmed in at $29 & $110. Is this true? If so,  how often is this practiced at the commercial NPP sites?
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Correction - RSCS lost the contract, DZ was not back-up, they are primary at Comanche now.
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RSCS lost they contract because they were underbid by DZ.  They knew it was a possibility but were trying to keep the wages better.  This is straight from the horse's mouth.  I'm not telling you who the horse is.

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Thanks to both of you. That makes much more sense than what I was hearing in the bottom of this fifteen foot trench.

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I'm hearing that Turkey Point is paying $45/hr, ala Diablo Canyon.

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I'm hearing that Turkey Point is paying $45/hr, ala Diablo Canyon.





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I'm hearing that Turkey Point is paying $45/hr, ala Diablo Canyon.

I wish! It would make staffing a hell of a lot easier.   If that's a true amount it has to be for the Temp. House Techs they bring in on occasion.
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....   If that's a true amount it has to be for the Temp. House Techs they bring in on occasion.
I believe it is... ala Diablo Canyon.
But it still falls into the venue of Traveling Senior Rad Control Tech.

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I believe it is... ala Diablo Canyon.
But it still falls into the venue of Traveling Senior Rad Control Tech.

They are PROBABLY referring to traveling CONTRACTOR Sr Techs.  Not HOUSE.  Two VERY VERY different standards.

Its like apples and mustangs.

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They are PROBABLY referring to traveling CONTRACTOR Sr Techs.  Not HOUSE.  Two VERY VERY different standards.

Its like apples and mustangs.
However, the same personnel fulfill the standards as they move from plant to plant, correct?

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When in doubt. go to the source. There is too much misinformation on the web. Rumors are not truth and speculation is a fools game.

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When I swing meters with people who have gone in and out of DC and now TP, I know that they are the same personnel.
I don't need no stinking internet research.

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I believe it is... ala Diablo Canyon.
But it still falls into the venue of Traveling Senior Rad Control Tech.

That it does, they all come from the same pool of personnel
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