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--- Quote from: Marlin on Aug 20, 2019, 01:41 ---   Wash out rate may be something you may consider. Both were very high long ago, I understand that the Nuke pipeline has lowered it's attrition rate today maybe someone with more current experience can comment.

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Navy Nuke pipeline is now a pump, not a filter,...

BUD/S is still a filter,....

...The six-month course at the Naval Special Warfare Training Center in Coronado, California, has three phases designed to push prospective SEALs to their breaking point. With an attrition rate of 75 to 80%, it’s clearly effective.....

look for an SO contract if they still exist and talk to a recruiter above all else, we're nukes here,....

Well, yeah it is still the Navy. The one we all know/knew and dont/didnt necessarily love. When the going gets tough and the tough get going - kinda like SEAL stuff - you can rest assured that the Navys got your back. Just ask Chief Eddie Gallagher.

I can't speak to NNPTC, but NPTU isn't really a pump, nor is it a filter, it's more like just a pipe (maybe a downhill directed pipe). Most losses when I was TC a few years ago were for medical (psych), although we lost several due to alcohol (underage drinking) right before I left. I think during my four years I had fewer than 5 kicked out due to lack of ability and only a couple for lack of effort.

   I am not sure that a drop in the attrition rate is all bad, yes I am expecting incoming fire but from the perspective of the change in times I think comparisons are apples to oranges. Reading many posts about having to get waivers for some of the entry criteria that did not exist when I went through the pipeline hints of a more stringent filter up front than I experienced. I enlisted when we were in the middle of the Cold War with a 600 ship Navy. The bottom third of my A school class was dropped whether they passed or not. Academic drops in NPS were common but not so much at prototype, I assume at that point the Navy had invested more than they wanted to lose. There was plenty of room for washouts to go to the conventional fleet.

   Now with a less than 300 ship Navy there is not the same need to fill billets so I suspect that if you are through the initial filter the Nuke pipeline may it be a better choice for success. The SEALs still have a large dropout rate and it may not be as glamorous as you imagine (nor is Nuke).


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