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PWHoppe:
Sorry for jumping the gun...mea culpa :-X
please accept my apologies.
Still a good reply to you Mike.
Already Gone:
--- Quote from: Shonkatoys on Mar 14, 2005, 04:06 --- Beercourt those jobs may be gone, But they are now offering 35-40 and hour for another job they just posted with Per Diem. DeNuke you the bomb!! Hey why don't everyone hold out next year and not commit to any outage and see what other companys can give you. DO not commit and you may get more money, There are tech jobs everywhere. Don't be a chump and jump at the first 22 dollars someone throws at you. That is chump change, Hold out everyone. I wonder if enough techs could hold out to influence the market. Maybe we can start a hold out promise forum in Nuke worker!!!. 8)
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Yeah! Finally someone has the idea.
Already Gone:
--- Quote from: Rennhack on Mar 14, 2005, 04:40 ---It's a different job PW, the one we were talking about has been removed.
http://www.nukeworker.com/job/view.php?job_id=1771
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Mike,
This is a dead link. It doesn't work now that the job posting is removed.
Another clarification, if I may. Although I DID understand the work to be a "technician level" as far as qualifications, I meant that it wasn't "technician level" with regard to the type of work. The stuff like outage job coverage, control point, smear-n-clear, etc. at that plant is contracted to Bartlett, and this is not a backup to that. This work is of a particular nature, and they did advertise for both 3.1 and Rad Engineers in the same post without differentiation regarding pay. I'm thinking that they want the First String players only.
This is why I jumped on that statement about them paying "$33/105 for outages". The picture is a lot different. The people on this job will not be warming a chair at a control point, or knitting scarves in the break room for 9 hours a night. For that kind of money, you have to come ready to do the job, the whole job, and nuthin' but the job.
RDTroja:
--- Quote from: Beer Court on Mar 14, 2005, 05:56 ---Yeah! Finally someone has the idea.
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We 'finally' had that idea about 15 years ago. Actually the old phrase "What if they gave an outage and no HPs came?" is about twice that age or more.
As you pointed out Beer Court, some people do not have the confidence that they will have a job if they don't take the one offered to them. I have 'held out' for the job I wanted and have done ok, but that was not because the utilities suddeny were stricken with fear that the contract techs wouldn't show up. The simple fact of the matter is that once the contract is signed, the contract company is obligated to provide techs at a certain price. On rare occasions the utilities have allowed a change based on availability, but that is indeed rare, and by the time it happens, things are generally a mess. At the end very few people would consider it a success.
What would happen? My guess is not much good, in the long run. If the utilities think we are trying to hold them up and threatening their schedules, you can bet that a lot of huge cuts and strong steps will be taken. Three in, three out? Forget that one. Breaks longer than the union minimums? All gone. If you want to act like a union be prepared to be treated like one. If you think things are bad with early layoffs and thin staffing, you ain't seen nothing yet. You may get a few extra dollars in the short run, but the cost will be higher than it is worth. Just my humble opinion, of course. The old adage about biting the hand that feeds you applies even if you don't think you are being fed enough.
Rennhack:
Troy, we are saying the same thing.
(And I knew the link was dead, that was my point.)
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