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RDTroja:
I deleted all the posts (including my own) that strayed into "how little I made on my first job." If someone wants to start that topic, it could be interesting to hear what some of us old farts made back in the days of wooden reactors, but it does not belong here.
Thank you, Mr. Webmaster, for the golden opportunity of deleting one of YOUR posts (the first to stray totally off topic, BTW!) ;D
Already Gone:
--- Quote from: RDTroja on Mar 15, 2005, 11:06 --- This topic started out with a statement that you took exception to due to what you perceived as an inaccurate assesment of dollar numbers and what they meant.
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You see, Roger, this is exactly what I mean. I did not take exception to any such thing. I could give a rat's ass if DeNuke is paying a quarter and a cheeseburger for this job. What I took exception to ( I am repeating this an awful lot) was the broad assertion that they were establishing the rate in question as a "going rate".
My one and only objection in this entire thread is that somebody went off and started a rumor that could be potentially damaging to someone's business interest. The statement that DeNuke was paying "$33/105 for outages" was patently false, and I said so.
As far as the per diem goes, I think I made my point that DeNuke (or any company for that matter) does not establish a single per diem rate for all jobs, that the rate in question, while low for Westchester County NY, is still higher than anyone should expect as a lot of other sites.
When (hopefully soon) DeNuke is actually in direct competition with Bartlett at all staffing levels, nobody has a right to be pissed at them for only paying $22/90 or whatever.
And you are (once again) correct about the holding out issue. Techs need to decide as individuals what is best for them. Sometimes that turns out to be individual action, sometimes it is collective action. Either way, the fate of the techs is in the hands of the techs. Sitting by the phone, hoping that some new company will come in and (defying all business logic ) rescue us from low wages and scanty benefits ain't going to solve our problem. E2, Atlantic, DeNuke, Shonka... et. al. will not be some kind of new Messiah for the oppressed RP techs. THe most that anyone has a right to expect from them is that they will have integrity, treat us fairly, and keep us working. If they can do that, their part is over. The rest is up to us.
If someone is not as confident as you are about getting work, maybe they ought to ask themselves why. If they can't get what you're getting, could it not be because they don't give what you're giving? Holding out is one thing, but it doesn't mean anything unless they miss you when you're gone.
RDTroja:
--- Quote from: Beer Court on Mar 15, 2005, 12:39 ---You see, Roger, this is exactly what I mean. I did not take exception to any such thing. I could give a rat's ass if DeNuke is paying a quarter and a cheeseburger for this job. What I took exception to ( I am repeating this an awful lot) was the broad assertion that they were establishing the rate in question as a "going rate".
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That is the 'assessment' I was referring to... not the numbers, not the job -- the 'inaccurate assessment of dollar numbers' by someone else -- specifically that they represented a sea change in the going rates. And that is what you took exception to. I happen to agree. If people get the impression that it is a going rate for outages, there will be a lot of hate and discontent to follow.
Shonkatoys:
Mike, I am speaking for myself not Shonka or DeNUke, but, I can see how that can be misinterpretted. I really think that standards need to be brought up. Like giving more money for a NRRPT, 22 dollars is ok for a knitter at the control point. Holding out for money can be a choice, Improving yourself to get you out of a tech position is a choice. I make a lot more than a 22 dollar an hour tech, But I have improved myself, got my NRRPT and a Degree. Denuke has worked well with me and I can only compliment them and hope they make a difference by rewarding hard work and competence, not knitters at control points who make the same as job coverage techs at some plants.
radgal:
Just my two cents.... No one should believe that a stated pay rate will always be the same for a contract company who staffs different sites!! You never assume its a given price until you talk to the recruiter yourself about the job specifics and get a quote in writing. I would not take what a guy posts on this site and assume that's the companys minimum pay, EVER! I've seen techs with the same company at the same outage with the same experience make different money. They each got what they agreed to. The techs were once told "If you discuss your pay rate with each other you will be fired." I don't believe it was ever exercised but it was stated. His comment on their pay rate might make me interested enough in that company though to check it out. It aint true till its on paper!
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