Author Topic: Nuclear History (Read 37337 times)

Rain Man · « **on:** Aug 27, 2003, 09:32 »

Thought a thread was needed for nuclear history. Check out the link below. HP's used to be "Gieger Men". I also liked the "Kit List" with condoms for pencil dosimeters and film badges. Now you know where all the US military surplus "raincoats" went after WWII.

http://www.aracnet.com/%7Epdxavets/caldwell.htm

moke · « **Reply #1 on:** Aug 27, 2003, 01:59 »

Hi Rain Man,

I do appreciate your thread since my Dad, Uncles, Friends and other Hawaii locals participated in many similar functions. My Dad was part of Operation Redwing. Similarly to your example, they conducted weapons tests.

I asked my Dad: What type of Anti-C's did the HP's make you wear when you folks inspected structures after various tests? The answer was "Street Clothes." Whew!

I maintain a deep interest is this subject matter ever since I engaged in DOE clean-up Operations abroad.

Thank you,

Moke

St Raphael · « **Reply #2 on:** Aug 27, 2003, 03:14 »

Rain Man

You've done it again! Thanks for =D the great thread. Atomic Veterans rock. We must not forget the good, the bad and the ugly.

Rain Man · « **Reply #3 on:** Aug 28, 2003, 09:24 »

Check link below for a comprehensive list of nuclear weapons tests. Nation, GPS coordinates, yield, type...this has some great info. It's a sh*t load of SNM that went K eff > 1. The madness of those times.

http://nuketesting.enviroweb.org/hew/Library/Catalog

Rain Man · « **Reply #4 on:** Sep 03, 2003, 04:54 »

A good site for Cold War info. Lots of links for weapons tests, fall out maps, I-131 plume tracks, arms treaties, proliferation, biographies, films, etc. Also many photos and great links.

www.nuclearfiles.org

Rain Man · « **Reply #5 on:** Sep 03, 2003, 05:22 »

Information on and for Atomic Veterans:

www.angelfire.com/tx/atomicveteran/

RDTroja · « **Reply #6 on:** Sep 03, 2003, 07:15 »

The man who taught me my first in-depth theory in 1975 was a retired Lieutenant Commander named Armand Nice. He was career navy and told me a couple of wild stories that were very similar to the ones reported in the article. He was on the ship closest to the test area and the dose rates he spoke of were just amazing and he knew that the detection equipment was inadequate to tell the whole story.

I am sorry to say I never kept in touch with him -- he was a great guy and helped me a lot. If he is still with us he has to be well over 90 years old. I think about him and thank him often for giving me the foundation I had to do my job and a few horror stories to make me want to do it well.

Rain Man · « **Reply #7 on:** Sep 03, 2003, 01:01 »

No wonder nuclear energy has a credibility problem:

http://arcticcircle.uconn.edu/VirtualClassroom/Chariot/chariot.html

http://borealis.lib.uconn.edu/SEEJ/part2.html

Rain Man · « **Reply #8 on:** Sep 05, 2003, 01:33 »

One of the more interesting ideas to come out of the fifties:

www.merkle.com/pluto/pluto.html

duke99301 · « **Reply #9 on:** Sep 06, 2003, 12:38 »

ok so this one is off the wall but here it is .
http://www.nonukesnorth.net/

This is not a link to a site regarding nuclear history - it's a political site mostly relating "Star Wars" missile project.

duke99301 · « **Reply #10 on:** Sep 06, 2003, 12:39 »

I like there shirts on this one funny.
http://nukes.hypermart.net/

This is not a link to a site regarding nuclear history - it's a site for a band.

duke99301 · « **Reply #11 on:** Sep 06, 2003, 12:40 »

http://www.wired.com/news/technology/0,1282,57555,00.html
do not forget about NASA

This is not a link about nuclear history - it's an article discussing the possibility of NASA using a nuke powered engine in a probe sent to Jupiter

duke99301 · « **Reply #12 on:** Sep 06, 2003, 12:42 »

Loose Nukes

What are “loose nukes”?
The term originally referred to poorly guarded nuclear weapons in the former Soviet Union that might tempt terrorists or criminals. Today, experts use the term to refer to nuclear weapons, materials, or know-how that could fall into the wrong hands. Areas of particular concern include the black market in uranium and plutonium, as well as the temptation for poorly paid former Soviet nuclear scientists to sell their skills to the highest bidder

duke99301 · « **Reply #13 on:** Sep 06, 2003, 12:43 »

http://www.nukes.org/MAp/godzilla.html
and lets not forget this guy

This is a link pertaining to Godzilla... not nuke history.

duke99301 · « **Reply #14 on:** Sep 06, 2003, 12:45 »

Dr. Louis Slotin had a screwdriver and two pieces of plutonium. He was screwing these two pieces together very slowly, watching the Geiger counter needle rise, and then he would unscrew it. One day he slipped. As a consequence critical mass was attained right in his face ... Slotin lunged forward and grabbed the two hemispheres with his bare hands, ripped them apart and took the full brunt of a nuclear detonation right in his stomach."

duke99301 · « **Reply #15 on:** Sep 06, 2003, 12:46 »

its sad but it did happen.
http://www.nukes.org/MAp/radiumgirls.html

duke99301 · « **Reply #16 on:** Sep 06, 2003, 12:47 »

and its in our food.
http://www.nukes.org/nukefood.html

This is not a site about nuclear history - nor is it about radiating food.

Rain Man · « **Reply #17 on:** Sep 08, 2003, 12:21 »

Nuclear powered bombers. 12 ton crew compartment, 10-12" leaded glass windows.....the old radium dial flight instruments were the least of their concerns.

www.radiationworks.com/flyingreactor.htm

Rain Man · « **Reply #18 on:** Sep 08, 2003, 12:37 »

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Dr. Louis Slotin had a screwdriver and two pieces of plutonium. He was screwing these two pieces together very slowly, watching the Geiger counter needle rise, and then he would unscrew it. One day he slipped. As a consequence critical mass was attained right in his face ... Slotin lunged forward and grabbed the two hemispheres with his bare hands, ripped them apart and took the full brunt of a nuclear detonation right in his stomach."

Hollywood used "artistic license" in "Fat Man and Little Boy" with this incident. It occurred approximately 2 years later than the film would lead one to believe. See the link below for details.

http://www3.sympatico.ca/lavitt/louisslotin/beaver.html

Rain Man · « **Reply #19 on:** Sep 10, 2003, 09:34 »

Anyone ready to trust NASA with nuclear weapons?

www.islandone.org/Propulsion/ProjectOrion.html

www.angelfire.com/stars2/projectorion/

duke99301 · « **Reply #20 on:** Sep 17, 2003, 02:18 »

they are trying to do more out in the handford area take a look.
http://www.tri-cityherald.com/tch/local/story/3934842p-3957059c.html

MercTech · « **Reply #21 on:** Sep 17, 2003, 11:40 »

They must be referring to the "paint can bunker" right outside of WNP2s fence when they balked at the expansion plans.

That thing needs digging up before new construction or Energy Northwest or whomever will inherit some buried nasties. (And very nasty they be.)

MercTech · « **Reply #22 on:** Sep 17, 2003, 11:43 »

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http://www.nukes.org/MAp/godzilla.html
and lets not forget this guy

This is a link pertaining to Godzilla... not nuke history.

Well, if you want to stretch it... Godzilla was done as a protest about nuclear weapon testing. It could be considered nuclear history in a bit of a warped fashion.

Of course, I've always been accused of having a warped sense of humor.

Rain Man · « **Reply #23 on:** Sep 22, 2003, 04:23 »

A big idea in its day....now a big pile of scrap. Note the passenger accomodations just aft of the reactor compartment.

www.radiationworks.com/NSSavannah.htm

The Germans tried it also:

www.radiationworks.com/NSOttoHahn.htm

stirfry · « **Reply #24 on:** Sep 22, 2003, 04:41 »

Hello,
Are there any ex NR-1 nukes out there? I would like to hear from you.

My Father just passed away and was eulogized as the Father of the NR-1.

Any stories would be welcome.

Thanks
in advance

Finni

stirfry · « **Reply #25 on:** Sep 22, 2003, 04:45 »

How bout the crazy things they were doing at Oak Ridge?
trying to find suitable shielding for nuclear Planes.
Look up Tower Shielding Facility.

These people lifted the reactor out of the ground using four tall towers, while the reactor was suspended in air they turned the thing on. and placed numerous configurations of various metals and substances for shielding.

Fun stuff those whacky guys in the early days.
Sounds like they needed 10CFR26 back then.

SloGlo · « **Reply #26 on:** Sep 23, 2003, 07:19 »

here's a link to what stirfry is talking about....
http://www.ornl.gov/%7Ewebworks/cppr/y2001/rpt/61946.pdf

stirfry · « **Reply #27 on:** Sep 23, 2003, 04:46 »

here is a short link:

http://www.ornl.gov/publications/labnotes/may95/tsf.htm

Rain Man · « **Reply #28 on:** Sep 25, 2003, 08:21 »

Interesting talk on Israeli nuclear weapons strategy:

http://freeman.io.com/m_online/nov96/beresi.htm

HydroDave63 · « **Reply #29 on:** Sep 25, 2003, 12:50 »

in other words.... "smoke 'em while you've got them!"

MadameCurie · « **Reply #30 on:** Sep 25, 2003, 01:53 »

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and its in our food.
http://www.nukes.org/nukefood.html

This is not a site about nuclear history - nor is it about radiating food.

haha... i love this quote from this link.

"It is unethical to expose anyone to nuclear radiations without their consent."

maybe i just have a warped sense of humor...
or maybe i'm just bored out of my goard.

in anycase, i'm a noob here and I need more posts under my belt.
[smiley=poke2.gif]

Rain Man · « **Reply #31 on:** Sep 25, 2003, 01:54 »

Interesting information on "broken arrows":

www.wfu.edu/~marttr2/incidents.htm

In-depth of a specific incident:

www.ibiblio.org/bomb/initial.html

Rain Man · « **Reply #32 on:** Oct 06, 2003, 01:28 »

One of the former Soviet Union's more embarassing problems:

www.logtv.com/chelya/cheldis.html

.....and if you want a vacation:

http://all-hotels.ru/chelyabinsk/hotels/index.en.html

Rain Man · « **Reply #33 on:** Oct 15, 2003, 09:57 »

Remember the "football"?? With the demise of the Soviet Bloc is it still used or even necessary?? See:

www.globalsecurity.org/wmd/systems/nuclear-football.htm

Wolfen · « **Reply #34 on:** Oct 17, 2003, 08:12 »

Rain Man,

Good idea on the Nuclear History thing. This stuff needs to be captured before all of us old guys decay off.

berzio · « **Reply #35 on:** Oct 17, 2003, 07:14 »

rain man

link is bad

http://nuketesting.enviroweb.org/hew/Library/Catalog

berzio · « **Reply #36 on:** Oct 17, 2003, 07:36 »

AWEsome history. i've been looking at the links. need more of this before we lose more history.

FFFFRRRRRAAAAANNNNNKKKKK

where are the heavies from sl-1

Wolfen · « **Reply #37 on:** Oct 20, 2003, 08:30 »

A little history - A lot of insight.

http://www.manuelsweb.com/sam_cohen.htm

Rain Man · « **Reply #38 on:** Oct 20, 2003, 09:18 »

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A little history - A lot of insight.

http://www.manuelsweb.com/sam_cohen.htm

Interesting read Wolfen. Thanx. A first strike with nuclear weapons has never been official US policy (although military doctrine dictates preparing for that possibility). Things can change when the heat is on or if you are backed into a corner. That is why we have organizations like the RAND Corp. to "think about the unthinkable". See:

www.rand.org

Please note that much of the work performed by this organization is classified and not available to the general public. They also produced the Pentagon Papers much to the embarassment of the Pentagon and the Nixon administration.

Rain Man · « **Reply #39 on:** Oct 21, 2003, 09:52 »

The first of the reactor accidents:

www.lakestay.co.uk/1957.htm

Rain Man · « **Reply #40 on:** Oct 22, 2003, 07:52 »

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Check link below for a comprehensive list of nuclear weapons tests. Nation, GPS coordinates, yield, type...this has some great info. It's a sh*t load of SNM that went K eff > 1. The madness of those times.

http://nuketesting.enviroweb.org/hew/Library/Catalog

The above listed link has been killed. See the following link for the same information. Not as detailed but still good.

http://www.ga.gov.au/oracle/nukexp_query.html

Rain Man · « **Reply #41 on:** Oct 22, 2003, 07:58 »

"Tsar Bomba"....the largest nuclear weapon ever detonated:

http://nuclearweaponarchive.org/Russia/TsarBomba.html

Rain Man · « **Reply #42 on:** Oct 27, 2003, 10:46 »

Ever wonder how underground nuclear tests are contained? See below link:

www.clw.org/pub/clw/coalition/contain.pdf

Adobe Acrobat reader required.

Rain Man · « **Reply #43 on:** Dec 03, 2003, 11:06 »

The wonders of science education in the mid-70s. From The Journal of Chemical Education:

www.accessexcellence.org/AE/AEC/CC/radio_activity.html

moodusjack · « **Reply #44 on:** Feb 29, 2004, 05:28 »

Driving past the ole SL-1 site dredged up some sobering thoughts.

Author Topic: Nuclear History (Read 37337 times)

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