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Re: Turkey Point
« Reply #75 on: Apr 10, 2006, 11:27 »
$100,000 reward for info? That should get some answers. I would hate to have enemies down there!
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« Reply #76 on: Apr 11, 2006, 08:11 »
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Re: Turkey Point
« Reply #77 on: Apr 11, 2006, 03:22 »
If anyone has information that will assist in this investigation, they are urged to call the FBI at 305-944-9101. The reward will be based on the value of the information, according to FPL.

http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/news/14294853.htm?template=contentModules/printstory.jsp
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Re: Turkey Point
« Reply #78 on: Apr 11, 2006, 05:36 »
ohh yea, not gonna be fun.  never know it may be some brain dead individual drilling the wrong pipe...

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Re: Turkey Point
« Reply #79 on: Apr 14, 2006, 02:19 »
Great people and fun area. Some might disagree but I like the warm winters.
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Re: Turkey Point
« Reply #80 on: Apr 22, 2006, 08:19 »
I didn't see an actual quote from the Diaz, but here is a quote from the article:

NRC Chairman Nils Diaz said that he thinks the hole, found earlier this month in a primary coolant pipe, was most likely made by a disgruntled worker Florida Power and Light employee or a contractor hired to do work during the plant shutdown.

This is very ugly. The news made a big deal that surveillance cameras did not record; that won't continue...


http://www.local10.com/news/8890046/detail.html#
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Re: Turkey Point
« Reply #81 on: Apr 24, 2006, 04:21 »
I recently got a letter from FPL asking if I had any info on the hole drilled in the pipe incedent.I imagine anyone who was at their last outage got the same letter.There was a hotline number for FPL and the FBI.I also understand,from talking to co-workers that worked the outage that they are having a great deal of trouble getting access at other sites now.Some who already had a badge at other sites have had the're access recinded and were told it was due to their being at Turkey Point and the ongoing investigation.What's next?
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Re: Turkey Point
« Reply #82 on: Apr 24, 2006, 05:56 »
I'm at Farley and we had about 10 workers come in from Turkey Point, they have to be escorted at all times. 

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Re: Turkey Point
« Reply #83 on: Apr 24, 2006, 07:23 »
from an outsider perspective as someone not in commercial nuclear power it is amazing that this hasn't been bloodier already.  This is supposition on my part, but had this happened in the navy anywhere it would have been a major incident and then some.  NIS probing bodily orifi etc.
Everyone can make mistakes and then some, even the brightest people are still people, but at this point how can anyone not "know" anything.  someone is not coming forward for one of 2 reasons, fear or they did it deliberate.
I usually tell nubs, that its not the first mistake you make that gets you in trouble but what you do when you or someone realizes a mistake was made that counts.  honesty can cover a lot of stupidity.

I am surprised that we haven't heard about this in the navy nuclear community yet but it wouldn't surprise me to discover administrative controls on metal working (drills, grinders, welding apparatus etc.) appearing in future maintenance periods.
the potential devestation if something like this had happened on a ship or sub would have been horrible.  granted the hole as i understand it wasn't found until the pipe was refilled and that just wouldn't happen on a sub or ship because we dont drain primary piping like that as a routine matter.
either way, it makes me shudder.


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Re: Turkey Point
« Reply #84 on: Apr 25, 2006, 05:56 »
  Not the worker.  He has been told shut-up in public or lose his job.  Further more... the worker is cast into doubt.  Not the employer.  The worker!  And, he can not defend himself.  SOUNDS LIKE THE AIRLINES TO ME!


It is amazing to me as well that no news is coming out from all the people at Turkey Point. I can yip all I want; I wasn't there at the time! But I haven't received a single word from the people there.

I do not have the inside knowledge of airlines, but my friends that have worked both commercial nuclear and commercial aviation claim many similarities.
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Re: Turkey Point
« Reply #85 on: Apr 25, 2006, 06:18 »
Who said I didn't work in both industries? I didn't joing the Navy until I was almost 24. I spent 3 years as an Aircraft mechanic..... My cousin Keith has been a pilot since the mid 70s, his son since the early 80s. My brother worked in avionics for Delta. I have more than a passing knowledge of how the FAA works.

I never claimed to be an expert on the FAA, HOWEVER I do take great exception when it is said the FBI is involved to merely court of affect public opinion. It's not the way it works. FPL would just a soon the FBI not have to be involved. The bottom line is it wasn't their decision to make. No one is trying to spin anything. It's not the way it works in this industry.

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Re: Turkey Point
« Reply #86 on: Apr 26, 2006, 04:44 »
Hey don't sweat it, and don't apologize! It's not necessary!

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Re: Turkey Point
« Reply #87 on: Apr 26, 2006, 06:44 »

And, to many this is going to hurt more (like the employees) until it is resolved.


My understanding is that the people that worked the PTN outage were not allowed to work the outage at my plant. I do know that none of them are here.....

FP&L employees are having to put up with a lot right now, but the travelling outage workers are the ones struggling to feed their families until the fall....
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Re: Turkey Point
« Reply #88 on: Apr 26, 2006, 07:50 »
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Re: Turkey Point
« Reply #89 on: Apr 28, 2006, 05:02 »
Parts of this thread have probably crossed the line over what is acceptable on the open forum. I will be splitting some of the most charged / sensational comments (with their replies) into a separate thread on PolySci.

http://www.nukeworker.com/forum/index.php?topic=7906.0


If you want to be involved in the discussion further, may I suggest PolySci. PolySci is a premium feature; Goldmembers only.

If you are not currently a Goldmember, Rennhack says there are slots available.

http://www.nukeworker.com/forum/index.php?topic=7770.0
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Re: Turkey Point
« Reply #90 on: Aug 22, 2006, 02:50 »
spanky ,

great people  ,fun area? are you kidding?

when where you there last ?1981? it has changed.

low morale w/ house hp/s. union verses mgmt conflict.

high crime rate and expensive lodging (non cockroach type).

if you want warm winters go to palo,stp or san onofre.

 



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Re: Turkey Point
« Reply #91 on: Aug 25, 2006, 08:01 »
Turkey Point is in the news again (at least on the NRC's site)

Power Reactor     Event Number: 42795
Facility: TURKEY POINT
Region: 2 State: FL
Unit: [3] [4] [ ]
RX Type: [3] W-3-LP,[4] W-3-LP
NRC Notified By: PAUL RIEMERS
HQ OPS Officer: BILL GOTT    Notification Date: 08/23/2006
Notification Time: 11:23 [ET]
Event Date: 08/23/2006
Event Time: 09:40 [EDT]
Last Update Date: 08/23/2006
Emergency Class: NON EMERGENCY

Event Text
POTENTIAL NEWS WORTHY EVENT

"On 08/23/06 at 0940, Turkey Point Nuclear Station was informed of a possible news release concerning the activities of a non-supervisor initial operator student. The initiating activities in question occurred prior to the employment of the individual at Florida Power and Light and have resulted in the recent off site arrest of the student on felony charges. Plant access was suspended immediately upon supervisor notification pending further investigation."

Florida Power and Light and Turkey Point were not mentioned in the initial news release.

The licensee notified the NRC Resident Inspector.


Anyone have additional info? I could speculate about charges based on previous experience, but would prefer not to.
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Re: Turkey Point
« Reply #92 on: Aug 25, 2006, 09:17 »
I guess we'll have to wait until it comes on Fox news to get the straight scoop.

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Re: Turkey Point
« Reply #93 on: Aug 29, 2006, 08:52 »
  Turkey Point is very bad. The house hp supervision is awful.  Yes, it is warm weather but other places are also and you have better working conditions. 

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Re: Turkey Point
« Reply #94 on: Aug 30, 2006, 01:14 »
I haven't been there in a while but I still have some dear friends there, so PTP will always be a favorite of mine.
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« Reply #95 on: Oct 26, 2006, 12:16 »
After 8 years straight, I oughts know.  I've been to Burger Kings with better management. There was always a big turnover and and they must have picked the first guy that just got fired from his last job due to in-competency. Un-believeable sometimes.

The 'old gaurd' when I arrived was really cool folks. Living in Key Largo made up for the bs at the plant. There's NO WAY I would live north of the Monroe County line. There are many small aprtments for rent IF you look hard and talk to locals. They don't advertise due to legal issues.

FP&L as a whole can't seem to function well. At both sites, they can't keep good people and they are having the toughest time attracting them. They could turn things around if they tried. I just don't think they're trying. My opinion.
 

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Re: Turkey Point
« Reply #96 on: Oct 30, 2006, 10:39 »
Is the missle still at US 1 and Krome Ave. or was it misplaced also?
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Re: Turkey Point
« Reply #97 on: Oct 31, 2006, 10:22 »
Jason,

I think the company reported this to the NRC to get the FBI to help them arrest this guy.  It's always helpful for the company to spin a situation into a frenzy for political gain.

Please don't get that whole thing started again...ok? ;)

Let's all just respect each others opinions and keep everything on a nice even keel.

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Re: Turkey Point
« Reply #98 on: Nov 06, 2006, 03:42 »
I am in the present NLO class and they paid to relocate everyone of us. So not sure where you are getting your information. 

I think this is the difference between contract techs and permanent hires.
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Re: Turkey Point
« Reply #99 on: Nov 09, 2006, 08:47 »
Turkey Point is in the news again (at least on the NRC's site)

Power Reactor     Event Number: 42795
Facility: TURKEY POINT
Region: 2 State: FL
Unit: [3] [4] [ ]
RX Type: [3] W-3-LP,[4] W-3-LP
NRC Notified By: PAUL RIEMERS
HQ OPS Officer: BILL GOTT    Notification Date: 08/23/2006
Notification Time: 11:23 [ET]
Event Date: 08/23/2006
Event Time: 09:40 [EDT]
Last Update Date: 08/23/2006
Emergency Class: NON EMERGENCY

Event Text
POTENTIAL NEWS WORTHY EVENT

"On 08/23/06 at 0940, Turkey Point Nuclear Station was informed of a possible news release concerning the activities of a non-supervisor initial operator student. The initiating activities in question occurred prior to the employment of the individual at Florida Power and Light and have resulted in the recent off site arrest of the student on felony charges. Plant access was suspended immediately upon supervisor notification pending further investigation."

Florida Power and Light and Turkey Point were not mentioned in the initial news release.

The licensee notified the NRC Resident Inspector.


Anyone have additional info? I could speculate about charges based on previous experience, but would prefer not to.

He was in the latest NLO class. He was formerly a high school teacher and was arrested for having sex with a 16 yo female student.

We also had a Unit Sup get a DUI while visiting INPO in Atlanta.

 


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