Hmmm, it doesn't hurt to look now, but a lot of places won't look at you until you are 90 days from EAOS. >1 year out is defenitely too early to apply. I would start contacting people and floating resumes around 9 months out but at 90 days, start hitting it hard. Also, a 6 and out nuke with no degree is a perfect candidate for an NLO position in ops or as a maintenance tech. That is where I would start if he is interested in commercial nuclear power. Considering he has no degree and this economy, I would focus on finding an NLO job at a commercial plant if I were him.
Good luck.
Justin
Well that can be a difficulty, for sure. He obviously needs to be able to go interview. There are people here that have had to deal with EAOS during a deployment so hopefully they will chime in. Hopefully, the command would support his needs, but he is the only one that can judge that likelyhood.
Justin
See...that's what I was worried about. Plus I know this command won't support it...they only care about trying to get him to stay in. So basically we're screwed? ::) >:(Naw, there are work arounds. Just gotta wait for the people that have had similar experiences to reply.
See...that's what I was worried about. Plus I know this command won't support it...they only care about trying to get him to stay in. So basically we're screwed? ::) >:(
I'm a 6YO (six year out guy). Listen, don't let them scare you. Nukes are in high demand, regardless of degree, time in, whatever. The main point is to start early, within the realm of 5 months. Hit up the major nuclear recruiting firms like Lucas Group, Orion international, Bradley-Morris. They can really help. I can't speak for the surface fleet, but in the sub force its very common for leave/ job hunting/ house hunting/ even terminal leave to be denied, ESPECIALLY for guys who don't reenlist. The main reason is because there's really no one to replace them, which I'm sure is not a problem in the surface fleet. Companies do phone interviews, and have other ways than face to face. Remember that as a 6YO you will most likely take a pay cut the first year, its just going to happen. You will be fine. Unless you are extremely tight on your budget and in debt, you can adjust. Once you prove yourself or qualify you will make more money. Remember that his command will try scare tactics and attempt to tell him that no one survives in the civilian world and everyone lives in a cardboard box. Its just not true, the economy is not that bad. The main point is that your are starting from the bottom again and have to prove yourself. If your husband works hard, he can make the same if not more money within the first year and a half or so. And don't forget about federal jobs! The shipyard(s) pay great and offer nearly the same benefits, and I want to say have about a 90% hire rate for ex military. Plus he'd be getting paid by the hour, imagine that! With overtime! :) Good luck and remember there are people who aren't in the military who survive! It can be done, and with your husbands experience, it will be easy! Don't give up!
in spite of the "great recession" people are still using electricity and it has to be made somewhere. That is why in economic downturns people turn to utility stocks. The jobs are still there
Energy Source Number of Generators Generator Nameplate Capacity Net Summer Capacity Net Winter Capacity Coal[1] 1,470 336,040 312,738 314,944 Petroleum[2] 3,743 62,394 56,068 60,528 Natural Gas[3] 5,439 449,389 392,876 422,184 Other Gases[4] 105 2,663 2,313 2,292 Nuclear 104 105,764 100,266 101,765 Hydroelectric Conventional[5] 3,992 77,644 77,885 77,369 Wind 389 16,596 16,515 16,541 Solar Thermal and Photovoltaic 38 503 502 422 Wood and Wood Derived Fuels[6] 346 7,510 6,704 6,745 Geothermal 224 3,233 2,214 2,362 Other Biomass[7] 1,299 4,834 4,134 4,214 Pumped Storage 151 20,355 21,886 21,799 Other[8] 42 866 788 814 Total 17,342 1,087,791 994,888 1,031,978 |
ex-nuke friends who have lost their jobs in the realestate, mortgage, .... that are now looking for commercial power work.
If I'm still in the industry I'll be glad to help!
When it gets closer to his time contact me. If I'm still in the industry I'll be glad to help!
LOL Dave, I'm working on getting out of the operations end of the industry. I'd much prefer instructing. It's the 40 hour week thing and not having to supervise people.
NukeWife. I'm with TVA.
Well there aren't any nukes close to Seattle.
Well there aren't any nukes close to Seattle. If you want a nuclear career with TVA you won't be in Knoxville or Oak Ridge. Closest you'll get is Spring City (Watts Bar) . Is he qualified anything usefull? QA doesn't mean crap.
Mike
His qualifications are: watch standing qualifications, PBO, SIR, 3M301, QA301. He is working on getting: 3M302 and 303, QA 302 303 304 and 305, and Advanced PBO. He is set to become work center soop once he gets the other QA quals. He has also done over 10 bravo overhauls, over 600 maintenance items in 1 year, and participated in dual media discharge evolution.
His qualifications are: watch standing qualifications, PBO, SIR, 3M301, QA301. He is working on getting: 3M302 and 303, QA 302 303 304 and 305, and Advanced PBO. He is set to become work center soop once he gets the other QA quals. He has also done over 10 bravo overhauls, over 600 maintenance items in 1 year, and participated in dual media discharge evolution.
Perhaps his e-mail combined on-duty accomplishments with post-liberty recuperation drills,... :P
Perhaps his e-mail combined on-duty accomplishments with post-liberty recuperation drills,... :P
Hanford loves navy nukes for HPT work. its in richland about 4 hours from seattle.
A "Dual Media Discharge" refers to a maintenance item that is performed usually once every ~5 years. It involves a lot of training, preparation, setup, and planning (the actual maintenance doesn't take very long, assuming everything goes according to plan). They replace some very highly radioactive portions of the ship's propulsion system, making it a noteworthy accomplishment.
These guys here are joking about your husband and what he might do after spending a little too much time out drinking on liberty. (The "dual media discharge" probably refers to the combination of vomiting and urinating that usually follows excessive drinking)
As far as the acronyms are concerned, here's a quick list:
PBO: Not sure what this is. He probably meant to say "PVO" which stands for "Primary Valve Operator", which is a qualification necessary to operate any valves on the primary reactor coolant system.
3M301: The "3M" stands for "Maintenance Material Management", which is the program that the Navy uses for handling all of its scheduled maintenance. The "301" refers to a particular qualification, in this case "Maintenance Worker", which is necessary to perform maintenance using the 3M system.
QA301: The "QA" stands for "Quality Assurance" and it's another program that the navy uses to ensure that work done on certain vital areas are done correctly, using lots of paperwork, oversight, and careful controls. The "301" also refers to being a maintenance worker, but within the QA program.
Okay....how the heck was I supposed to know what any of these acronyms mean?! I apologize but I've never been in the navy. I'm just giving you what he told me his quals were and he probably figured you would know since you've been in the navy! I really don't appreciate being made fun of either. Do you have any idea how hard it is? I've dealt with 5 years of the navy's BS and I'm tired! I think I at least deserve some respect for dealing with being a nuke spouse and being supportive of him. I'm sorry I put acronyms down....this is what he gave me. We are under enough stress as it is...I don't need people belittling me.
He may have meant BPO--certified waste management and facilities operator???
Nukewife, the quals that he now possesses are the minimum required for anyone who's been a nuke onboard a vessel for 2 years. What I'm saying is, he doesn't stand out. Being at his 5 year point and NOT being qualified 3M 302 (RPPO) and 303 (WCS) is not impressive. All those other quals may help, but as posted on other threads, the extra QA quals won't mean much on the outside world (didn't even make it to my resume). They will, however, give him a solid base of knowledge. Being a work center supervisor will be the best training he gets while in the navy. It takes a lot to perform that job well; the description of that job (on his resume) will cover all of the quals you've mentioned. Fixing a few valves and being a part of a team doing a media discharge is all standard stuff (teamwork-big projects).
I'm not so sure being married correlates to deserving respect... :P
Thank you. But we both really hate Richland. :-\ That part of WA is like a different state. LOL
Nukewife....In todays economy you better be a little more thick skinned and humble...especially if you want your husband to get a job on the outside......or you may be a sailors wife for a lot longer than 5 years.
Even if he doesn't get a job before he get's out...he is still getting out. This is how strong our hatred is for this lifestyle.
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(I actually dislike the uniform but that is beside the point)
Wow O_o
With all that hate for the "lifestyle" (anyone mention that nuclear jobs involve rotating shift work, long work hours or possibly both simultaneously?) and dislike for the uniform.....the following come to my mind:
1. A greater sympathy for the MM getting out, for trying to serve our country without a lot of encouragement and support for the lifestyle (don't think that hearing "I hate your job" at home doesn't wear on someone trying to do that hard job at sea)
2. You ask for nuclear opportunities, yet prop Seattle twice and slag Richland twice. The only openings in the land of emogoths and rain are PSNS and Starbucks. Both would be a waste of the sacrifices the MM made. There are 93 nuclear power plants and a few DOE sites across America you haven't yet considered.
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It seems to me that you have picked a fight with very experienced and helpful people who are willing to provide guidance for you and your man as you transition into the world of post-USN civilian life.
You can continue to battle with the very people you have asked to help, or realize that you are in a hole and stop digging.
It seems to me like the opposite. Like she got some of the usual flack that we normally reserve for the actual sailors/new people to the business. She is just a concerned wife looking for a resource. While I think that she started off great, after Mike's comment, she obviously went defensive.
NukeWIFE, not everyone got out of the Navy before 20 years in this forum. In fact, there are plenty of retirees who loved that lifestyle. All of the reasons that you listed for why you both hate the Navy are valid reasons, and they all get better when you get out (if he can get himself a job). If you guys are really looking for a job in the nuclear industry, check out this link. It lists states with nuclear activities that your husband should be able to find a company based off of and apply.
http://www.eia.doe.gov/cneaf/nuclear/page/at_a_glance/reactors/states.html
Jason
Wow O_oHey hey there now... slow down... there is WAAAAY more in Seattle than just PSNS and Starbucks. No respect... sheesh... /Rodney Dangerfield
The only openings in the land of emogoths and rain are PSNS and Starbucks. Both would be a waste of the sacrifices the MM made. There are 93 nuclear power plants and a few DOE sites across America you haven't yet considered.
[/Dr Phil moment]
She asked about TVA, I'm with TVA and PRIOR to her taking on an attitude was more than willing to lead her through the various traps and minefields that are there when applying to a large government agency. You guys know me very well here, usually I want some proof of competence or willingness to learn before I'll help.
Mike
So I'm a nuke EM qualified SRO with 2 years left of my initial six years and haven't reenlisted. I'm Planning to get a BS in Nuclear Tech from Excelsior and parallel EWS with that. Now when I get out in 2 years and have that stuff done. Should I be hesitant about more experienced workers taking jobs in the economy right now? or should I be more than qualified to get a job somewhere? (I've actually already been looking and I think St. Lucie in FL looks fairly nice)1. The latest interpretation (Direct SRO) is 2 years standing EWS....not just getting your CO's signature the day you separate.