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Facility & Company Information => Region II (South East) => Oconee => Topic started by: Rennhack on Nov 30, 2002, 07:30
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Don't forget to vote. Keep your comments civil.
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usta be the favorite plant of mine to go to!, course, that wuz inna 70s, but it wuz welll, run, lots of different types of affordable housing, enertainment wuz available, 'n the geography is superbe wid lakes 'n hills 'n everything a man could want.... the wimmen wuzn't bad neither ;)
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I really enjoy working with all the Bartlett Core at the other techs at all three Duke sites. Good Group of people and good Bartlett Co-ordinators: Phil Kelley, Rick Smith and Bill Mc Cleod. :) :)
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Oconee is a good place to work an outage... the layout of the facility is easy to remember.. the best thing about the area its located in, is the scenery and the diving ;D ;D i know when i get to oconee i can always look forward to some deep diving in that cold mountain lake water.. jocassee lake. nelson gardner and his people are great to work with too...........
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:o I like working Oconee, expecially when I get to pick on the RP's on the Turbin deck. Everybody is really nice to work with. My motto is SMILE, it makes people wonder what your thinking about!!!!!!!!!!
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Just returned from Oconee last week. I've worked outages there since 1988. I always look forward to returning.
I like working there for several reasons, a contract worker is not looked down on and treated like one of their own.
The area has some type of recreation for everyone.
The rental rates are great and the area has lakes for fishing and boating. Its just a beautifull area.
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nope, never a kmacer..... alwaze a rad man!
Me too. I was there for the core barrel work and other stuff, intermittent 81-83. Neat place. Had Melvin Smith, worth the price of admission. the added plus was Mike Boyle and 15 -20 other really fun people. I loved the area, the lakes and bass, mountains. You could follow the Tiger Paws to a football game. The site was alright when I was there and they treated everyone decent.
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AMEN!!!! Right on Exposed One! Remember....at Duke, Safety is ALWAYS first...unless it MIGHT impact the schedule!!! This whole thing has been a nightmare from a bad movie. Duke would never even have addressed the Chromates if it hadn't been for several work groups refusing to work until they got answers. And those groups would not have demanded answers if it hadn't been for the few of those that understood the true hazards associated with hexavalent chromium and the ability to find credible info on the material. They have tried SO hard to make this issue go away...well guess what..it hasn't. And the chromates are still in the general areas inside the RB! I won't even go into the fiasco with moving the old reactor head outside....mrad/chromates/monsoon. Get the picture? [smiley=poke2.gif] [smiley=poke2.gif] [smiley=poke2.gif]
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ExposedOne and MauiJoe, Haven't been to Oconee in years. Nice to know they haven't changed. G-K to both of you. Back in the early 80s I covered a job in what used to be called the Interim Rad Waste Building. Entered the area with bottled air from tanks that had been filled about 1.5 years previously and then stored o/s of Unit 3 personnel hatch. During operations this location easily went to an ambient temperature of 90-95 degrees F. Air under pressure stored at an elevated temperature breaks down. As the mechanic and myself were passing out the last thing I remember hearing was the engineer yelling to get in there and get the job done. At least this time they had follow up, although it may have been questionable. We didn't get even minimal medical attention and a safety review never made it on the radar screen. That was my cue to bail out and thank God haven't done any Duke plants since.
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Every plant has their ups and downs. All I can say is "Oconee has been berry, berry good to me." Haven't worked there in almost 6 years though. Lots of good people there.
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good god people we had a very good outage on time and under budget. even though there were some mistakes made by all no one got hurt, yes decon got used a little more this outage and it meet some hps had to give a little more.
but in the end we all made major improvements.
I feel an outage with no lost times is very good,
oh buy the way here at this site all workers help build scaffold if needed. to me working here was a blessing after working in the plants up north at least when work was needed all the craft jumped in and helped,
and to have run into Art Flowers agin was very nice!
to see some old faces here. good luck all '!SEE you in
fall here for the SGRP and head replacement. ;D
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At oconee now, about finished with the SGR. Steel going back in. RT still going on with the hot & cold legs. Lay offs have been going on for the past couple of weeks for the crafts. HP's get our big cut the 21st. ;D
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I,m still here....... so much for the 21st of nov. will be leaving the end of this week.. Never heard anything about chromates this outage other than what i read on the bathroon walls inside the RCZ....
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best thing I seen was it in my rear view 12.5 for 12 sometimes endedup 13.5 for 12 and SGT sucked .. never agin .
off to better places. did have good HP's that worked there .
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All my memories of Oconee are good, only worked there once in early 90's, the timing never worked out to go back, but I would.
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I've only been there once in the 90's, but the one time showed me that Oconee (being a Duke Power plant) is one of the few in this industry that is willing to "spend a dime to save a buck" if you can understand what I mean. I think most people in the buisness would agree that this is a very good & rare attitude. ;D
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Great plant to work. Main complaint was Clemson football. I love college football, but all the motels will boot you out for home game weekends. :'(
Phil Kelley is a stand-up guy.
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Just wondering who is going there this spring for the SGRP. I will be going there this spring and want to see if anyone I know will be there. Also, I've never been there.....any advice would be appreciated.
Thanks!
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.....any advice would be appreciated.
Thanks!
take yer fishin gear.
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Like SloGlo said,
Bring the fishing gear. Lake Hartwell, Keowee, Jocassee and a multitude of mountain streams, rivers, creeks nearby. The scenery is enough to make a bad day fishing a pleasure.
Gold prospecting is even an option in the streams around Lake Cherokee near Salem. (I'm makin' myself plum homesick thinking about it all)
Enjoy
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Thanks for the info!! I love to fish, and already started getting my stuff ready.
I have a few questions for people who worked there the last outage.
1. Is that true you gotta work 12.5 for 12???
2. How were the layoffs handled....I was at Kewaunee for their SGRP and 3-4 weeks into it they layed some people off.
3. Who's gonna be there???
4. Does anyone know if Vinnie Samuels will be there? I worked with him at VY, but haven't talked/ seen him since 99.
Thanks for your input!
-Brian
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Oconee is a great place to work, as long as your on the house side and not SGT. Some of their management, one female in particular is a egotistical pain in the rear. If they could get rid of her things would improve tremendously. I'd suggest night shift if your going to be on the SGT side of things.
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ageoldtech I feel your pain.I think we had the same problem from the same ego chick supervisor at calvert.Somebody should wake up.
Sorry I'll be missing you at this one.I still doing that D & D thing.
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Radbastard, hope things are great in the D&D world. Speaking of pain I'm still trying to get the machete out of my back!!!
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I was a little worried about "lonley lady " being confused with me another female turbine tech.............. If she doesn"t say " BITE ME" then she is not Barb :)
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Had an interview for an OPS job at Oconee ... how does Duke treat their people? What's the area like? Saw a little of Clemson & Anderson, seems like a nice place...
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If anyone has a favorite hang out, place to shop, or local information for this area please post it here.
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Charlie T's on the lake. Great food and good people. On wed's they have 5 Cent hot wings.From mild to atomic .
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I hear the Oconee unit 2 SGR is in like "day 44". Anyone got anything to say about the outage or how SGT treated it's RP folks?
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Back at it again... not that bad, if you don't mind a little work.. Worked the same place. Shy on cameras and commo could have been better, but the same can be said for alot of places/outages....
Area is nice. DON'T KNOW ABOUT U/3....NOW, THAT ONES GONNA BE A BEAR !
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Why is the fall 2004 sgrp gonna be a bear? :D
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;D I want to say thanks to Nancy, Doc, and Buddy for the great RP work they did at Oconee. I know that at times things were rough with all the things going on up on the turbine deck, but they really made things a lot easier for us mechanics. No matter how bad things got they still smiled and laughed. Again a great big THANKS. Hope to see you again this fall.
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Hey you little wooden puppet builder what RX bldg have you been in? I think you need to look at your surroundings becacase you must not be at ONS 3 because on the side that I work it has been TERRIBLE you must be one of the chosen ones that does not have to go into the building. Because in case you have not heard the insulation removal has not been going according to "THE PLAN". If you like to spend 10 out of 12 hours in the building in a face pump then I guess that you are having a good Outage but over here on the real side it has not been as rosey as you have painted it to be. BEWARE if you need a job DON'T come to SGT just a word of advise.
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Out of all of the Duke plants Oconne would and should be your first pick.. Great area and at that plant they still treat you like you are a person not a number filling a open slot. Great living areas all around the area ( within 30 mins )... If I had my pick it would be Oconee.
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Fortunatly for Oconee, they have their pick. Which is why ole' Camal toe is not there!
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This is SGT's last woo-rah they could care less about anyone in their organization. If your on the dark side you have my condolences. Been there done that. I'd rather work for less money on the house side than have to put up with those bunch of Bozo's.
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hey things happpen all is not always best but SGT will do the right thing to get plant back on line and take care of there workers. the main thing is everyone go's home and makes money right?
merry xmass
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As a reply to the P mans quote I have to say that "The great Turkey Heist" was a act of aggression towards all of you non believers. As anyone could see that the once infamous Gigarat was caught with his hand up the turkey and his other hand on Hambone (NOT THE HAMBONE) but the hambone that we were going to use for a pot of beans. Can I ask what kind of a man would steal a Thanksgiving Turkey? Let me give you a clue A Gigarat that is who. But on the darker side, that turkey and ham feast that we had at the Pad was some kind of good that night it was had. It was just a shame that ALL OF THE LEFTOVERS were served up that night with only double T there to see. And after this all this being said, and all that has been done They settled in for a long all nighter run... Merry christmas to all and to all a goodnight.
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Things are finally getting back to normal around here. Me and Do-Do bird had a nice long ride and soaked up that perdiem like Gigarat soaks up doble T's turkey gravy!!! All in all it's been fun. I just wanna get back to being the shark in the FishBowl. Y'all have a Merry Christmas and Happy New Year!
P.S. Oconee will be alright in the spring, but by all means stay away from McGuire. That place is for the birds.....do-do birds ;)
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Does anyone have a contact number for the HR department, or the hiring manager for the Learner - Operations position that is advertised on the Duke Energy website?
http://www.dukeenergy.com/careers/search/details.asp?JOBIDNUM=2733
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Regrettably, you cannot "talk" to anyone in HR directly, without them calling you first. Duke Energy has moved to a central repository (if you will) for their recruiting, and it's out of the general office in Charlotte, which then forwards the resume/application to the respective hiring manager, in this case, the Operations Manager at Oconee), who'll doing the hiring. Perhaps someone here at "nukeworker" can give you some insight as to who the Ops Manager at Oconee is?
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Worked there 4 times, had my fun. Raise the pay maybe I'll go back.
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Oconee was my first road job (for 15 straight months!); went back several times in the early eighties and wouldn't hesitate to go back now. It was 3 hours away from home so we had the best of both worlds... per diem and home! I'd give it a 5 star rating. Miss a lot of good friends we made there. Steve Morgan was the best supervisor.
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I had worked at McGuire several times in the past and always enjoyed my times there, but I had heard so many scare stories about Oconnee over the years, I had never desired to go there. Well, I did their last SGRP and I was pleasantly surprised by the plant, the house techs, and that whole little corner of South Carolina. Will I go back again? Most definitely, scheduling permitting. While it wasn't nuclear heaven (I'm not sure what plant(s) would be included in that lofty definition), it wasn't the nuclear hell I heard so much about in the past. That may not sound like much of a recommendation, "pleasant" is a good place to be while on the road.
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Possibly going to work at Oconee as a asbestos abatement tech for Bartlett this outage. Can anybody give me a clue on how it is to work there, what is expected of you, and how you are treated. Where to stay and eat. 8) Any replies will be appreciated.
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Hello all. I'm going up to Oconee next month to interview for a NLO position. Can anyone give me an idea of what to expect? I'm told it will last about 5 hours. If you have been through an interview there, I'd like to hear about it. Any information would be appreciated. Thanks.
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FIVE hours for an NLO interview????????? That has to include the testing because most NLO interviews are done within 30 minutes, 40 tops.
Mike
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Well,
Usually the testing is the first thing. Its a go-no-go to continue on with the rest of the interview process (from my experience).
After you take the test you may just be seated in the HR offices until its graded.
If you pass you move on to the face time stuff.
The best advice I can give you is to speak and act like a "human". Be personable and truely engage your interviewers. Ask real questions. Do some research on Oconee via the NRC and familiarize yourself with current issue, especially if they have had some OPs issues.
Also the 5 hours normally includes testing, a plant tour, and a series of interviews including HR, OPs sups, and possibly some work group leaders, and also lunch.
Don't forget to get business cards/full names from all those that supported your interview and after the interview make sure you send thank you cards.
Good luck.
Jason
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NRC Website For Oconee
http://www.nrc.gov/info-finder/reactor/oco1.html
Mike
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Looking to send my resume to Ops manager anybody got Email address??
Rob
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Hi, I recently left Brunswick with over 4 years of nuclear power plant operations experience as an NLO for a contract postition out west for a couple of years. After this, I would like to move back east and I have both Oconee and Vogtle in mind. If needs be, I would be willing to get some AO experience and then pursue and RO and then an SRO license career path at one of these units. Can anyone tell me what the starting salaries of either of these units are? Also, I do have a BS in Engineering (no interest in being an Engineer though at either of the plants, though). Some other questions I have are as follows: What sort of time frame would be likely for an experienced NLO such as myself? How frequent are the refueling outages? Are they staggered by 8 months a piece? Do operators qualify on all 3 units, or does each unit have it's own set of operators? How much overtime is available during the outages? (since I am likely to take a pay cut, this would help ease things a little during the qual process). Any info that any of you can give me would be appreciated.
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Hi, I recently left Brunswick with over 4 years of nuclear power plant operations experience as an NLO for a contract postition out west for a couple of years. After this, I would like to move back east and I have both Oconee and Vogtle in mind. If needs be, I would be willing to get some AO experience and then pursue and RO and then an SRO license career path at one of these units. Can anyone tell me what the starting salaries of either of these units are? Also, I do have a BS in Engineering (no interest in being an Engineer though at either of the plants, though). Some other questions I have are as follows: What sort of time frame would be likely for an experienced NLO such as myself? How frequent are the refueling outages? Are they staggered by 8 months a piece? Do operators qualify on all 3 units, or does each unit have it's own set of operators? How much overtime is available during the outages? (since I am likely to take a pay cut, this would help ease things a little during the qual process). Any info that any of you can give me would be appreciated.
Hmmm, Looks like BZ slept peacefully through the night. ;)
Up at the top, there is a search feature. All of your questions can be answered by searching through previous posts. Consider this an early part of your training. After you have searched and reviewed information already posted, feel free to followup in those forums for more detail.
Peace,
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Hmmm, Looks like BZ slept peacefully through the night. ;)
He is a busy man these days, being the leader of the pack on shift and hangin out with the heads of state. He needs to get his rest. It's no fun when the SM is on edge ;D
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Actually, I have researched many items, though some of the posts are 2 years or older and I was just trying to get some more recent info if possible. I will try to contact the ops manager at a good time as that is usually informative. In the meantime, I will continue my search as you instructed and see what else I can find out. Thanks.
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Left Oconee about June 6, 2007 been going there since 84..one of the best plants to work for that I have ever been to. Yes, they do have SRO's for each unit but, I think the AO's are all over the plant. They are the greatest bunch of people that you could ever want to meet. Not like some plants that treat you like you are dirt, I won't mention any one plant in particular. I will add this...they have always treated me good.
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Left Oconee about June 6, 2007 been going there since 84..one of the best plants to work for that I have ever been to. Yes, they do have SRO's for each unit but, I think the AO's are all over the plant. They are the greatest bunch of people that you could ever want to meet. Not like some plants that treat you like you are dirt, I won't mention any one plant in particular. I will add this...they have always treated me good.
C'mon G, mention that plant!! :)
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I knew a Harry Pope at Oconee in 85. He was there as a rent-a-tech then went house. Is this the same one?
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Duke Power has extended the Bartlett contract through 2009 at the same pay, per diem and travel. :(. I guess contract R.P does not deserve cost of living adjustment.
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http://www.nrc.gov/reading-rm/doc-collections/event-status/event/en.html#en44483 (http://www.nrc.gov/reading-rm/doc-collections/event-status/event/en.html#en44483)
Two fatalities in the industry reported in one day - Monti was the other. Sad to hear, condolences to the worker's family. :(
Fatality classed as work related - anybody got any more info?
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Duke Power has extended the Bartlett contract through 2009 at the same pay, per diem and travel. :(. I guess contract R.P does not deserve cost of living adjustment.
Are you sure? I was under the impression that Seniors going to Oconee recieved a $3 an hour raise.
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Hello,
Looking for a contact for the contracting company that handles the I&C Techs for Oconee.
Would be interested in making the upcoming outage.
Thanks,
hockeygiant
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Can someone provide me with an RP contact name/email address? Please PM me.
Thanks!!
Lorrie
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DZ Atlantic
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I'm looking for someone that is in-house, not a contracting company....
Thanks!
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Lorrie check your private messages!
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Phil Kelley 864 885-3212
RP Supervisor
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What's going on with the vessel head and potentially damaged fuel at Oconee 1??
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Nothing potential about it. We just got some pictures. Not all the bundles were fully inserted and they put the upper internals in.
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Those pictures were incredible! This is very bad news :-X
Is it bad enough to not recover from?
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Where are the pics, would like to see damage!
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sounds like a long term outage....
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The fuel damage at Trojan during an early 80's RFO was much worse than what I saw in the Oconee pictures and Trojan recovered nicely.
Right, but how will this impact a plant that is already through 25 or 30 years of run time? I haven't worked there before so I don't know the general condition of the plant or its history. Seems like the bill on this might outweigh fixing it.
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Right, but how will this impact a plant that is already through 25 or 30 years of run time? I haven't worked there before so I don't know the general condition of the plant or its history. Seems like the bill on this might outweigh fixing it.
It has 24 years left on it's license and has historically been a good performer. They'll fix it.
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Where are the pics, would like to see damage!
Picture a 14' fuel bundle crammed into a 13'10" space. This did not look like new fuel either.
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Were the damaged assemblies new (unirradiated) fuel or used fuel?? If used fuel, did containment have an airborne excursion when it happened and did alpha contamination increase significantly?
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The one in the picture that mutant posted is glowing. i'm thinking they are not going to make dose goals for a while.
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Any more updates on this "fuel fiasco"?
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By the pictures I have it looks irradiated. I don't know how to post them though.
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By the pictures I have it looks irradiated. I don't know how to post them though.
I'm pretty sure if you go to www.tinypic.com and follow the directions you'd be able to post them here.
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Pictures can be found in the Oconee photos folder: http://www.nukeworker.com/pictures/thumbnails-105.html
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I'd hate to be the guy that initialed off the verification on the move sheet.... :o
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I wonder if GEICO can fix it...
" oh nooo, your fuel assembly is all flat 'n junk..."
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"I wonder if GEICO can fix it..."
" oh nooo, your fuel assembly is all flat 'n junk..."
LOL !!! That just made my whole nightshift reading that.....
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Hey Ya'll, what's the latest scuttlebutt about the goings on with the damaged fuel? Are they recovering well? How many heads have been chopped for this SNAFU?
Just courious.
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Oconee is humming along at 100% They had a little lost generation time due to the incident but recovered well and recovered quickly. The root cause and corrective actions will take some time. BTW-The person that posted the pictures did not have permission and she may want to consider removing them!
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Anyone on the board waiting to hear back from Duke for the NLO positions at Oconee? Just wondering if there are others out there waiting to hear from them. After speaking with one of their staffing folks today it sounds like they are getting close to sending out offers for the April hires/class.
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I applied, but never heard from them. Did you interview?
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I had a brain cramp when I made that last post. I interviewed at Catawba in Oct and am waiting to hear from them. Sorry for the confusion.
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Never Again. I have been a long time Duke Energy contractor and for the most part have enjoyed my stay while working at Oconee but not anymore. They are working the techs to death. They are woefully understaffed and are working the dayshift techs like rented mules. Catawba was equally understaffed but at least their house folks had a clue and prepped for the outage. Lousy leadtechs who take care of the home boys and leave the traveling rent a techs in the building for 10 hours a day. Next spring when McGuire gets done I'll either go home for a couple of weeks or find a fill in job until Catawba comes down for their 50 day outage. Oconee, you lost me
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Lost me also-working with a girl that got a ed alarm after being told not to go in rooms I didn't get an alarm but because of her mistake and entering we both got punished she got to go back to McGuire and I was just sent home why should I be punished over her mistake and not listening to RP and a reminder from me no rooms boy what a bad taste in my mouth!!!
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Glad to see not much has changed at Oconee. I always thought there was good people there and it is a fun area. Low Pay and being lied to about potassium chromate kept me away after 2003.
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Lost me also-working with a girl that got a ed alarm after being told not to go in rooms I didn't get an alarm but because of her mistake and entering we both got punished she got to go back to McGuire and I was just sent home why should I be punished over her mistake and not listening to RP and a reminder from me no rooms boy what a bad taste in my mouth!!!
Were you told not to enter and by the map was it posted do not enter?
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I just wanted to put it out there that Oconee is not that bad of a place to work and the best part of being a contractor is, if it's that bad, pack up your crap and go some where that is better. Duke power has problems and they have alot of good points too. I have been in the Duke system for about 8 years and I have worked many different types of jobs during this time. I have worked for different contractors. Yes, sometimes we have had hard times staffing, but we are always looking for about a 100 techs and we normally get 90. We are doing good if you look at the amount we are trying to get. I have been at other plants that can't even staff 40 people. These Duke plants are good plants with good people who try to do the right thing but sometimes some people are never happy or they want to cry about anything that didn't go their way. What happened to the days where we came and did whatever they asked and didn't cry and whine about the job we are lucky to have? Sorry to unload but ...
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Sir I need to buy you a beer!
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Lost me also-working with a girl that got a ed alarm after being told not to go in rooms I didn't get an alarm but because of her mistake and entering we both got punished she got to go back to McGuire and I was just sent home why should I be punished over her mistake and not listening to RP and a reminder from me no rooms boy what a bad taste in my mouth!!!
I'd say you are living somewhere in the red circled region of the ladder of accountability.
(http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y192/JustinHEMI04/lad-text-outlined-300x450.png)
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(http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y192/JustinHEMI04/lad-text-outlined-300x450.png)
Love the image.
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Lost me also-working with a girl that got a ed alarm after being told not to go in rooms I didn't get an alarm but because of her mistake and entering we both got punished she got to go back to McGuire and I was just sent home why should I be punished over her mistake and not listening to RP and a reminder from me no rooms boy what a bad taste in my mouth!!!
Let me get this straight. You both entered a room you were told not to by RP. She got an alarm. You didn't.
How is this only her mistake and not yours?
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Let me get this straight. You both entered a room you were told not to by RP. She got an alarm. You didn't.
How is this only her mistake and not yours?
Good observation, it think that describes what the ladder was trying to say.
Hover, I think the bottom most wrung in the ladder shouldn't be included, just the 2nd and 3rd.
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By the pictures I have it looks irradiated. I don't know how to post them though.
At the top of the page is a tab labeled pictures, if you move your curser to the tab, a menu opens that has "Upload pictures" as the second option. Follow the prompts, and upload them to the proper area i.e. find the Oconee section. -- Then you pictures will be where they belong, and can me shared in the forum easily.
You can either post a link to the pictures, or you can then embed them with the [ img ] your picture url [ / img ] tag.
I know this post is a year old, but the question needed to be answered. Better late than never.
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Good observation, it think that describes what the ladder was trying to say.
Hover, I think the bottom most wrung in the ladder shouldn't be included, just the 2nd and 3rd.
That is why I suggested they were living "somewhere in the region." ;D It is up to the reader to decide for themselves where they think they fall. :P
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Borntodothis well spoken for a Big Blue supervisor 8) :)
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Borntodothis well spoken for a Big Blue supervisor 8) :)
Yeah!! Anyone who believes someone should go to work and do what they agreed to do MUST be a Bartlett shill!!
If only we had a Union to stop that from happening.
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What happened to the days where we came and did whatever they asked and didn't cry and whine about the job we are lucky to have?
I guess there isn't supposed to be a technician with a questioning attitude or ALARA suggestion at your plant. I remember the old days when it was burn out the contractors, take care of the locals/core techs, don't question how we do things because "it' our way or the highway".
According to the techs working the outage there, they are very short staffed. Guess you get what you pay for (or not).
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Sounds like maybe this could be a TV drama " as Oconee turns" but I would take this over the bread, wellfare and unemploy. line any day. If you can't stand the heat stay out of the kitchen
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The mentality of the Bartlett RPS at Oconee. No one is lucky to have the lowest paying SR RP job in the industry BOBBI !!!!
THEY ARE ARE LUCKY ANYONE CAME AT ALL !!!!
right out of his mouth "What happened to the days where we came and did whatever they asked and didn't cry and whine about the job we are lucky to have? "
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Earning your pay and doing a good job while obeying the rules is considered Pro Management?
I call it work ethic myself.
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Look all I'm saying is that its not that bad. Heaven for bid you have to work for 8hrs out of a 12hr day and come on. I am a Jr RP this is the lowest paying job that I have had in years and I made this choice. So I come to work and i do a good job because i have shelf respect. And like i said this place ain't perfect but it is what it is. And all of the returnees no that. Far as the good old boys they work the crap out of them also. And just so there is no issues this is the Bobby III. And i am just a Jr RP and yes the pay for us is low but we agreed to it. and yes on average i get a 15min break in the morn and a 30 min for lunch when I'm lucky. and sometimes they stick you in the building for 7hr. and for the SR RP out there god help you. You may have to rap your own RO-20. I'm sorry if this upset any of my friends out there but if you have a problem with this place we will be gone really soon. Hope everyone has a great day.
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Wait.....am I hearing this right? No more 3 hours in 9 hours out at Oconee? ::)
"You may have to rap your own RO-20"
Just dont make me sing to my teletector........ ;)
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I think the key thing to remember is this is business not personal. Stay or go based on what you think is valuable. I always came here because I liked the people and the area; those where valuable to me. When those things no longer dominate my experience here, then where I go will become a pure business choice. Translation: all things being equal, I'll choose where to work based on money. It's just business.
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Thats it!!!! we all have a choice in life and if you don't like it here then just go away and find out how those high paying job sites treat you as a person and respect as a contractor. I'll be willing to bet then you would want back here, I worked two of them in the past spring first one I played he-- to get a 10 min lunch everynight the second I could tell you story's about it to but why,it don't solve a thing,me myself I like the respect and confidence they put upon me here in the DUKE system and with that I try to show it in return. Don' Bi---- you could be in the real world working for less
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I don't like outages. It's the reason I spend most of my time doing DOE or other work. I've been at this too long to get worked up about it. When it becomes too much of a pain in the rear end, I opt out. Many of us old timers bailed for other venues in the early 90's. Things are better than back then. I have very few bills and more options then I used to. I haven't decided whether I'll do the Oconee spring outages. I'll do like Duke does and wait until the last minute to really think about it. 8)
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This is for all you folks who think it is okay to overwork someone, no it isn't. This working folks at Oconee with a heavy hand is gonna be proven it is the wrong way to lead, come next season when we have to pick between Oconee and Catawba. Wonder where 90% of the folks will be working? Pretty sure it will be Catawba. And Bobby III just because you are a Junior, does not mean you should be abused, making folks do 12 hour jumps is ridiculous, and you do not deserve to have to jump for 12 hours. This is not like a regular job, 8 hours or even 10 hours, 12 hours is tough on a person, especially after already working an outage, Oconee is going to have to step back and look at the way they are leading, and reevaluate and change it, or they will be short for years to come.....
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Jeez Sun Dog what is it you do? You where dishing the West Valley techs on that thread calling them dirt techs without even knowing what they do there 2 days ago. Now the RP's at Oconee do not have a real job. I have climbed up and down those "D" rings and it gets old quick. I have a friend that is a JR. at Oconee who is exhausted and under 30 years old. The word is Oconee is 20 SR's short.
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Jeez Sun Dog what is it you do? You where dishing the West Valley techs on that thread calling them dirt techs without even knowing what they do there 2 days ago. Now the RP's at Oconee do not have a real job. I have climbed up and down those "D" rings and it gets old quick. I have a friend that is a JR. at Oconee who is exhausted and under 30 years old. The word is Oconee is 20 SR's short.
Check my posts. I never called the West Valley Techs "dirt techs."
Check my posts. I never said the RP's at Oconee did not have a real job.
Get your facts straight before accusing me of crap I did not write.
BTW, try climbing those D-Ring ladders hauling welding leads instead of a RadEye and a pack of smears. Then tell me how tired you are. Get real. Being an HP is not that tough, physically or mentally. You want a physical challenge? Try pulling the trigger on a 90-pound jackhammer or building scaffolds for a 10-hour shift. You want to be mentally exhausted at the end of the day? Try your hand at being a PE or an SRO at a commercial site.
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Nice to hear we are not worth a S--T to you 8)
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Check my posts. I never called the West Valley Techs "dirt techs."
Check my posts. I never said the RP's at Oconee did not have a real job.
Get your facts straight before accusing me of crap I did not write.
BTW, try climbing those D-Ring ladders hauling welding leads instead of a RadEye and a pack of smears. Then tell me how tired you are. Get real. Being an HP is not that tough, physically or mentally. You want a physical challenge? Try pulling the trigger on a 90-pound jackhammer or building scaffolds for a 10-hour shift. You want to be mentally exhausted at the end of the day? Try your hand at being a PE or an SRO at a commercial site.
Maybe it was inferred here:
That would be frightening. A self-described dirt surveyor DOE tech asked to do job coverage and finds out he/she is critical path? And nobody to turn to for help but a handful of fellow dirt surveyors?
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or maybe it was inferred here:
post by spunger
"This is not like a regular job... "
Reply by sundog
"True if by "this" you mean an RP Tech. It is much less taxing (physically and mentally) than most."
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I have sat quietly and read what you are arguing about. I am the other side of the equation here. I am a mechanic. I take RP's with me when we get coverage, they stay as long as I do. 4 to 5 hours on a jump. None of them that I have seen or know have stayed 12 hours in the can. We may have stayed at work 12 hours or a little longer, but it's what you get paid to do. Go to Catwba and enjoy I will be here with the good hard working techs who care and aren't whining about a little work.
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The whole 'dirt surveyor' term would have never entered my lexicon if it were not for a recent post from a DOE 'tech'...
I agree, but it was still inferred by your post. You denied making the inference.
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After further review, you can forget submitting the entry logs as evidence of a 12-hour dive. Most RP techs falsely rack up RCA hours by logging onto an RWP at the start of the shift and not logging off until the end of the shift.
Not here at Oconee. If you stay logged on during breaks and lunch you will be in the RPM's office explaining why! They check and anyone signed in more than six hours straight will be there explaining that also. Its hard to rack up hours by staying logged in here. RP's are no different han any other employee when it comes to putting extra hours on the RWP.
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Thanks for confirming the claims of 12-hour dives are BS.
Maybe I didn't make myself clear here. If you are in the building working for 12 hours then it is ok to remain logged on for 12 hours. However when you exit the RCA it is required that you sign off. If you are called on the carpet then just tell the RPM that you were actually working and it is ok.
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Federal law requires a 30 min lunch break in a 8 hr day. It's unlikely anyone worked more than 6 hours without any break what so ever.
CORRECTION:
Federal law DOES NOT require that employees be given lunch breaks, but many state laws do.
South Carolina DOES NOT have a law requiring lunch breaks.
http://www.dol.gov/whd/state/meal.htm
The states that require lunch breaks at every shift are California, Colorado, Connecticut, Delaware, Illinois, Kentucky, Maine, Massachusetts, Minnesota, Nebraska, Nevada, New Hampshire, New York, North Dakota, Oregon, Rhode Island, Tennessee, Washington and West Virginia. The states that require break periods every several hours are California, Colorado, Illinois, Kentucky, Minnesota, Nevada, Oregon and Washington.
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Federal law requires a 30 min lunch break in a 8 hr day. It's unlikely anyone worked more than 6 hours without any break what so ever.
This is true and I doubt very seriously if anyone actually stayed in the building 12 hours. I know the folks that work for me don't because I won't let them. I will give them a break myself if necessary. I am sure if someone is forgotten about on the other side, all they have to do is call and say "I need a break" and they would get one.
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So, it seems to me what Henry is trying to say is that if an Oconee RP tech produced an RCA entry log showing that they were logged onto an RWP for 12 consecutive hours that they either are violating station policy by not logging out and will be called onto the carpet for it, or they are violating Federal law. Either way, something ain't right.
Back to square one, any claim that RP techs at Oconee are forced to work 12-hours without a pee break is BS.
Nope, what I am trying to say is that if someone was logged on and actually inside the RCA working then it is ok to be logged on for 12 hours. The station policy is that if you are out of the RCA then you have to be logged off. If you are inside the RCA then you have to be logged on and that is ok ,but you will still be asked why you were logged in for more than 6 hours. If your answer is I was in the building working then the matter is closed. If your answer is I forgot to log out then there is a problem. As far as the federal law thats not for me to debate here. I do know that my bladder can't hold it for 12 hours so I would have to get a break in there somehow. However I don't have time to try and keep up with every group here so what someone else is saying could be the truth! I simply don't know for sure what the other depts are doing all the time.
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Sundog there are restrooms inside the RCA at all Duke plants
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Federal law requires a 30 min lunch break in a 8 hr day. It's unlikely anyone worked more than 6 hours without any break what so ever.
Not at Oconee dude!!
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Not at Oconee dude!!
I just Googled it, and found out that I was wrong. Here is my correction:
Federal law does not require that employees be given lunch breaks, but many state laws do.
South Carolina DOES NOT have a law requiring lunch breaks.
The states that require lunch breaks at every shift are California, Colorado, Connecticut, Delaware, Illinois, Kentucky, Maine, Massachusetts, Minnesota, Nebraska, Nevada, New Hampshire, New York, North Dakota, Oregon, Rhode Island, Tennessee, Washington and West Virginia. The states that require break periods every several hours are California, Colorado, Illinois, Kentucky, Minnesota, Nevada, Oregon and Washington.
http://www.dol.gov/whd/state/meal.htm
I was wrong, and I am sorry. I DID learn something today.
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Now that it has been established that RCA logs at Oconee reflect actual hours spent inside the RCA, perhaps a copy of a recent RCA entry/exit log can be posted (with all personal info blacked out of course) to confirm the insinuation that Oconee is a slave labor camp.
So... What you didn't learn was to let it go. Perhaps it was a slight exaggeration. Who died and appointed you 'perfectness czar'?
Hmmm, I seem to remember reading something about that some where...
4. Please learn to be respectful, tolerate and support each other. NukeWorker.com's goal is to help others, not see how many people we can annoy. Do not initiate arguments or tension. This will only cause the triggering of other members and make this site less professional.
See what you did? You 'triggered' me with your argument initiation.
http://www.nukeworker.com/forum/index.php/topic,4700.0.html
SEE - I don't have a problem with Marlin. I have a problem with people that correct others, when it doesn't really help. Try being helpful, and not such a prick.
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You were most forthcoming when you said:
[stir] I'm the Troll your mother warned you about, feed me.
That's the difference between you and me. I know I'm being a jackass. You think you are 'helping', or being clever. In reality, your just a jackass too.
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I love it !!!! The bunny's back. :)
:) ;) :D ;D 8) :P
Thank you for setting this straight 8)
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man this thread took on some life :) Word on the street is the home office is telling folks you can't work another plant like say Susquehanna and then come into CNS. Bartlett is trying to bundle all three Duke Nukes. Problem is there is too much overlap between Oconee and Catawba. Almost 2-3 weeks! Seems like the smart thing to do is let the techs make up their minds and work McGuire and choose where they want to work afterwords. Take a couple weeks off and go to Catawba or roll right into Oconee. If it comes down to me being forced to go to Oconee and then Catawba just as they go into no mode then I'll pass on Duke all together. Too many other outages next year to choose from. Let the techs choose where they work.
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If everyone would let the bartlett home office call them for this spring, and don't answer the phone then maybe the pay and diem would increase?
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man this thread took on some life :) Word on the street is the home office is telling folks you can't work another plant like say Susquehanna and then come into CNS. Bartlett is trying to bundle all three Duke Nukes. Problem is there is too much overlap between Oconee and Catawba.
While there is an overlap between ONS and CNS, there has not been any decision at this time how staffing is going to be directed between the Duke Fleet. Discussions on the options available to the technicians and the affected sites will start in earnest soon.Officially, issues have been identified over one call.Basically it was a preliminary meeting to get ready for more. No doubt, this will be a big group effort.
Over the years BNI has met the Duke Customer request with a superb quality R.P work force returnee ratio. Given the amount of energy that is expanded each year by the company's management, recruiters and technicians for our customers, I see nothing but a banner year in 2011. As technicians, we have to have the best data available to make good decisions. Lets please keep rumors and innuendoes to a minimum and only on the bathroom walls ;-)
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While there is an overlap between ONS and CNS, there has not been any decision at this time how staffing is going to be directed between the Duke Fleet. Discussions on the options available to the technicians and the affected sites will start in earnest soon.Officially, issues have been identified over one call.Basically it was a preliminary meeting to get ready for more. No doubt, this will be a big group effort.
Over the years BNI has met the Duke Customer request with a superb quality R.P work force returnee ratio. Given the amount of energy that is expanded each year by the company's management, recruiters and technicians for our customers, I see nothing but a banner year in 2011. As technicians, we have to have the best data available to make good decisions. Lets please keep rumors and innuendoes to a minimum and only on the bathroom walls ;-)
If we want your opinion we'll ask Bobby
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If we want your opinion we'll ask Bobby
That is rude, and uncalled for.
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That is rude, and uncalled for.
Rude? Maybe. Uncalled for? Perhaps. Off topic? Definitely!
However, two [or three, or four, or...] wrongs do not make a right.
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While there is an overlap between ONS and CNS, there has not been any decision at this time how staffing is going to be directed between the Duke Fleet. Discussions on the options available to the technicians and the affected sites will start in earnest soon.Officially, issues have been identified over one call.Basically it was a preliminary meeting to get ready for more. No doubt, this will be a big group effort.
Over the years BNI has met the Duke Customer request with a superb quality R.P work force returnee ratio. Given the amount of energy that is expanded each year by the company's management, recruiters and technicians for our customers, I see nothing but a banner year in 2011. As technicians, we have to have the best data available to make good decisions. Lets please keep rumors and innuendoes to a minimum and only on the bathroom walls ;-)
Am I missing something? Where has that superb quality workforce been hiding? We all know that Duke has been and continues to be a dumping ground for BNI.
Maybe your ability to recognize or accept that is a reason you will remain a Cheerleader on the losing side! I don't know, just thinking out loud!
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Yes u are missing something! I resent that remark!! I have worked for Duke now for 4 years now throught BNI. Love the system. I give 110% plus. Only thing they have against them is the GOOD OLE BOY CLUB! If you don't belong you don't work on projects.
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Dued that was sarcasm, I'm not missing a thing. Hoser on the other hand tends to let things sail over his head so I thought I'd have a little fun with it. The "workforce" as a whole leaves something to be desired, there are and always have been some of the best the industry has to offer supporting the Duke sites. I just wish they would do a better job of culling the outage staff. If you infact "love the system" and give 110% and more I'm sure your efforts are well recognized and appreciated.
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Am I missing something? Where has that superb quality workforce been hiding? We all know that Duke has been and continues to be a dumping ground for BNI.
Maybe your ability to recognize or accept that is a reason you will remain a Cheerleader on the losing side! I don't know, just thinking out loud!
Being a cheerleader for the system comes with Hosers position. I respect him and was merely tweaking him. maybe a smiley face would have been appropriate and Renhack wouldn't have felt compelled to speak up.
A good majority of the work force at Duke are great, hardworking techs but like other utilities you'll get a few that are either long of tooth and physically can't do some of the work anymore or have been a check point junior who is now "qualified" to be a senior RP. This makes being a lead tech a little challenging I would think.
Back on topic, Oconee is OK to work but IMO has slid down in a good number of peoples eyes. I have most every outage down there for 10+ years but am hoping the home office "allows me" to pick and choose where I work after McGuire. I don't want to work all three Duke Nukes in the spring. I would prefer to work MNS then CNS. We'll see how many people get to do this as well. Listening to break room banter at ONS I am not alone.
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Also wondering why there is no where to "vote" on the Oconee board did I miss it?
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Anyone know who does security at the Oconee Nuke Plant? I've worked at a gated community for two years and could be moving to Seneca soon.
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Anybody work non-outage at Oconee? I just did my interview and POSS and both went really well. Looking to potentially move to the area.