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Facility & Company Information => Region IV (Western) => Trojan => Topic started by: Rennhack on Dec 22, 2003, 06:17

Title: Trojan
Post by: Rennhack on Dec 22, 2003, 06:17
Talk About: Trojan
Title: Re: Talk About: Trojan
Post by: UncaBuffalo on Dec 22, 2003, 08:37
Oh...someone asked about Trojan pay rate on another topic...I haven't been there in a while, but am fairly sure it's still high twenties per hour/no diem?  Hope that helps.
Title: Re: Talk About: Trojan
Post by: Atomic_Punk on Dec 22, 2003, 08:49
Actually, the pay rates are as follows.
Non-Local:  $20.35 hr, $80.00 a day per-diem.
Local: $32.OO hr.

SFP D&D has just finished and characterization surveys
are in progress.  Final Survey is on going in the aux bldg at this time.  Unc Buf, we miss ya here dude.
Title: Re: Talk About: Trojan
Post by: ex-turbine_cowboy on Dec 23, 2003, 04:25
I really miss Trojan---I remember how we would all play basket ball in the plant---Then during lunch it was frisbee in the park and after work it was softball.  Trojan was truly a country club of the North West.  Met my first wife there. Saw Mt St Helens erupt on May 18th 1980,  Still have my copy of the Portland Newspaper with all the photos.  My Folks still live at the top of a mountain on the other side of the river. Dad retired from Trojan a couple of years ago.
Memories 8) :'(
Title: Re: Talk About: Trojan
Post by: Atomic_Punk on Dec 24, 2003, 05:06
Hey TC, if you're refering to Big Bad Bill Whatley, he's one hell of a good guy.  I've got nothing but respect the
man.  He is missed at the site.
Title: Re: Talk About: Trojan
Post by: ex-turbine_cowboy on Dec 25, 2003, 07:06
The One and The Same - Havent heard that title since I ran into a couple of his buds from NAM - They had the same feelings.  Merry Christmas to you
Title: Re: Talk About: Trojan
Post by: UncaBuffalo on Jan 04, 2004, 11:46
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Unc Buf, we miss ya here dude.


Thanks, PunkinHead...I miss you guys, too.  Trojan definitely is on my Top Three List for good nuke plant memories.
Title: Re: Trojan
Post by: CraigT on Feb 06, 2004, 07:08
Hi nukies,

Everything is going well at Trojan. We are cleaning up a few of the remaining areas in the plant that could not be remediaited until the SFP was emptied and deconned. Final surveys of most of the Aux. and Fuel Buildings are still needed to be worked on. We have also been final surveying the remainder of the embedded piping throughout the plant and are about 50% done with that. The schedule has us being completed this Fall or early Winter.

It has been a great place to work over the years and a ton of very good people have come and gone through this plant. I wish the best for all my old friends!  
Title: Trojan
Post by: UncaBuffalo on Apr 20, 2004, 03:43
Only a few more months to treat Portland, OR as a work location, but thought the info might come in handy for people travelling the I-5 corridor...or easy striking distance from Columbia & Hanford...



Best concert venue (possibly my favorite in the world) is the amphitheatre at the Zoo...they run free/cheap concerts all summer and you can take the family, so...


Good live music all year long at The Alladdin and Berbati's gets its fair share of fun acts, too.  The Crystal Ballroom is a great place to dance when they have the right band, but the seating is almost non-existent, so only go for bands you are willing to stand for.

I love the Laurelthirst for a beer...AND they have the best early evening music, so...
Title: Re: Trojan
Post by: incrediblehulk on Mar 10, 2006, 12:53
It was in the local papers yesterday here in Portland that on May 21st they're going to implode the Trojan cooling tower. Same company that took down the Kingdome in Seattle. It's supposed to be the first time that anything so securely built will be imploded. The police are going to block off the roads to discourage "looky-loos", but there's supposed to be TV coverage. I'll provide a link as soon as one becomes available.
Title: Re: Trojan
Post by: HydroDave63 on Mar 10, 2006, 05:42
It's interesting to see how S/G plugging problems led to an early shutdown, which weakened PGE finances to make the Enron merger possible, which led to the California energy situation that raised rates throughout the western US, and caused a LOT of changes in FERC, NERC and the electric industry.

Brings new meaning to the importance of secondary chemistry and S/G work, yes?  ;)
Title: Re: Trojan
Post by: UncaBuffalo on Sep 17, 2008, 06:24
Stuck up a few pix from now...a few from D&D...and a few from the sleeving outage...

http://www.nukeworker.com/pictures/thumbnails-153.html
Title: Re: Trojan
Post by: tolleshaug on Nov 01, 2008, 05:17
Thanks for posting the Trojan pictures. They brought back good memories of faces that I have not seen for awhile.Craig Tolleshaug
Title: Re: Trojan
Post by: dagiffy on Dec 07, 2008, 05:28
Is Trojan an operating plant? Anyone know the story about this facility?
Title: Re: Trojan
Post by: vikingfan on Dec 07, 2008, 05:46
No its not operating and hasn't operated in a number of years but you would have known that if you had read the threads about this site.
Title: Re: Trojan
Post by: dagiffy on Dec 08, 2008, 12:05
there's more than the two under "Trojan"? I actually googled it and couldn't find my info, so I came here.
Title: Re: Trojan
Post by: HydroDave63 on Dec 08, 2008, 12:51
The prior 5 years of posts in this thread might have been the first indicator....
Title: Re: Trojan
Post by: Rennhack on Dec 08, 2008, 09:16
This video might help explain the status:

Title: Re: Trojan
Post by: dagiffy on Dec 08, 2008, 03:16
lol ok ok I get it, I'm feeling the love.

This is the greatest web site ever created. Ever.
Title: Re: Trojan
Post by: HydroDave63 on Dec 08, 2008, 08:18
lol ok ok I get it, I'm feeling the love.


Actually what are you are feeling is us rubbing mayonnaise into the burns from prior smites....lol

+K to ya  ;)
Title: Re: Trojan
Post by: peteshonkwiler on Dec 13, 2008, 02:41
While it existed, it was a very good plant to go to for an outage.  I have always been sorry that I was only there one time.  However, that one time was in the top 5 of my All Time Favorite Outages List. 
Title: Re: Trojan
Post by: alphadude on Dec 14, 2008, 06:07
me too... way back in 79
Title: Re: Trojan
Post by: UncaBuffalo on Dec 22, 2008, 09:21
Guess they got containment demolished this fall.  All that's left in the old protected area are a few outbuildings & the ISFSI pad...

http://www.tdn.com/articles/2008/11/25/top_story/doc492b9b8c7cf16893724531.txt

Title: Re: Trojan
Post by: jjack50 on Dec 23, 2008, 03:37
I suppose it has already been discussed here but I don't think it was the chemistry problem that lead to the closure and then the sale of PGE.

The explosive sleeving went very well except for the one tube that was not annealed and then failed. The removal of most of the tube plugs and the sleeving those tubes added substantial capability back to the life of the plant. After the tube rupture that caused the "final shutdown" it seems that PGE management found the reason they were looking for to close the plant.
And why would they want to?  My guess is the manoeuvrings were already going on to sell the utility to Enron and Enron didn't want an operating nuke. There was no other credible reason for not operating the plant following the investigation after the tube rupture... They had the OK from the NRC to restart and they had to OK from ODOE as well.  How do I know? A man from ODOE told me as much on the bridge over the SFP.

Companies do what they want to and makeup the reasons to fit what they want to do..

I missed the place as an operating plant and refused to go back for  decomissioning..


Have my TOJAN 1993 Defueling Team Member "Will Work For Food" mug on my desk...
Title: Re: Trojan
Post by: matthew.b on Mar 21, 2009, 09:08
My guess is the manoeuvrings were already going on to sell the utility to Enron and Enron didn't want an operating nuke.

Yes, Enron wouldn't want an operating plant.  It would have been hard to fabricate a west coast power shortage to radically raise rates if that 1120 MW was still operating.

Did you ever hear rumors of the plant being sold to an independent operator?
Title: Re: Trojan
Post by: jjack50 on Mar 25, 2009, 07:42
As a matter of fact I did. The rumor I heard was that Westinghouse offered to buy and run the plant for PGE. Of course they had to say NO to that otherwise it would have put the lie to their reason for closing it.
Title: Re: Trojan
Post by: KKsPaPa on Mar 25, 2009, 08:44
When I was at Trojan from 1991 through 2000 it was rumored that the then President of PGE, Ken Harrison, had made a mid-night deal with the then State Governor, Barbara Roberts, who was an anti-nuke.  The deal, as rumored, was that if the President agreed to shut-down Trojan the State would agree to grant PGE breaks on certain rate deals.  It was also rumored that when Harrison became President and CEO of PGE he had made a public statement indicating that before he left the position he would rid PGE of the so-called financially disabling Trojan Plant.  So after many ballot measures, and many ballot measure defeats he decided that it was an opportune time, to the benefit of PGE, to shut the Plant down.  Fact or Fiction who knows?
Title: Re: Trojan
Post by: UncaBuffalo on Jan 04, 2011, 11:55
Open letter to Atomic_Punk:

Hey!  I ate at Muchas Gracias 6 times when I was home over Thanksgiving & Christmas!  NEENER!  ;)





Note to everyone else:

I talked to one of the guards from the good ol' days...he is still sitting there watching the ISFSI pad.
Title: Re: Trojan
Post by: Atomic_Punk on Jan 04, 2011, 12:06
Open letter to Atomic_Punk:

Hey!  I ate at Muchas Gracias 6 times when I was home over Thanksgiving & Christmas!  NEENER!  ;)


Rub it in....rub it in....
Title: Re: Trojan
Post by: UncaBuffalo on Jan 04, 2011, 05:26
What a gig,... a job with a 500 year half-life,..... :P :) ;) ;D 8)

The boredom inherent in that scenario makes your head go numb, doesn't it!   ;)
Title: Re: Trojan
Post by: jjack50 on Jan 05, 2011, 06:02
The boredom inherent in that scenario makes your head go numb, doesn't it!   ;)

Watch the ships sail up and down the Columbia...
That's about it.
 [nuke]  zzz  [hypno]
Title: Re: Trojan
Post by: SloGlo on Jan 27, 2014, 07:58
only did Trojan once. aye remember that plastic n it bean on a roll. eye due knot remember it having any special characteristics. Probably any red transparent will subtract  the photon energies which result in the fading of r.a.m. tags.