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Reference, Questions and Help => Polls => Topic started by: RADBASTARD on Nov 18, 2002, 04:43
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which plant is the most hated to work at by hp and decon?
for treatment,money,or house techs?
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how about cr-3
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This sucks. All of comed is a number of plants and all the other choices are single plant sites.
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What about all the other dastardly plants? Surry? Robinson? Oyster Creek? What is Pilgram?
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I never though I would see CR#3 on the most disliked list by Hp/RP techs and deconners. WHAT HAS HAPPENED TO PLACE THEM THERE???????? Does it have any thing to do with the change from Numanco to Bartlett?????
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mrmoney... sorry, but i never had a housemouse treat me more bad than i treated them.... 'n the places that treated me well got better in return. obviously, you 'n i never crossed paths twice.
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Wow!!! mRmoney sounds like a real nice person - the kind that resides in the quaint abode known as HELL. I pity this persons sorry existance - then again, mrmoney is the reason that plants bring us in - becuase people like mrmoney can't cut it on the job and plants need Pro's like us to ensure that the job is done right! A smite on mrmoney
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Sorry I couldn't add more for you guy's to chose from but the poll would only let me do 4.I could have added
cr-3,beaver now a day's not from before 95,robinson,perry,oyster creek,as far as comed being lumped together we are treated about the same by all the house techs reguardless.Some are a little better the others.Once I heard a house tech tell everybody in the daily meeting he wanted the air sampled by safety if he had to breathe the same air as the contractors.He was affraid of catching something from contactors.Brunswick the deconners are treated like slaves go go go,These are one's that have a history from the past.Actually I had a good time at pilgram when I was there.If the are more chim in. :'( >:( ??? :o
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cef call the office you will understand
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Wow!!! mRmoney sounds like a real nice person - the kind that resides in the quaint abode known as HELL. I pity this persons sorry existance - then again, mrmoney is the reason that plants bring us in - becuase people like mrmoney can't cut it on the job and plants need Pro's like us to ensure that the job is done right! A smite on mrmoney
Did I miss something? Who is mRmoney? Did they delete his post.
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::) Now let's not forget those "hum-dinger" DOE plants...
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Quad Shities is one plant that really sux and the house people can't stand us.
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An old, faded outage nuclear roadwhore shirt I had had Pilgrim under one armpit and IP2 under the other arm pit. We'll I spent ten years and change at Pilgrim. I spent the same time equivalent in 9 months at IP2 in 84'.
Relativity favors IP2 as my vote.
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Yes, radbitch, somone deleted his post. It was pretty rude, even for the Bathroom Wall. Another idiot showing his IQ (or lack thereof). I was going to reply to him, but he wasn't worth the effort. Pity that some people are so angry that it ruins their lives. If you want to imagine his post, think of Herr Reich Marshall with a filthy mouth, a low IQ, and much less tolerence of other people.
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pity... i wuz jest beginnin to know mrmoney......
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I dont understand how Brunswick got on this list?!?!? (Unless it was from the "old days") I dont think I have heard any negative feedback from at least the last 5 years. It has to be one of the best plants that I have worked!! (y) (y)
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Back in the late 70's when I started I remember being advised to stay away from Dresden, Peach, IP, Browns Ferry, and Brunswick. Only because of the rad conditions. How we were treated? I never saw a house tech and only a few supervisors. I think I was on my forth outage before I even knew there was such a thing as a house tech.
If you came to in the rad trailer with a plane ticket in your pocket it must be time to go to the next one. Of course back then six months was the standard outage so there was little pressure and everyone was a little more mellow. [smiley=sleep.gif]
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I recall in the old days, a common HP phrase was,
"I don't worry, I don't hurry, and I don't do Surrey".
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I once heard a guy tell the head of dresden he would sooner blow a heard of goats then to come back to this plant. :'(
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Radbastard:that goat thing, was that to get his self respect back?
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:'( Yes, PSL and PTN should be on the list.
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I added a few more for your viewing pleasure and by popular demand!
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Dresden may not be the best place to work but it's not all bad. I worked with 3 house techs there a few years ago, Larry, Larry & Calvin. They were a pleasure to work with!
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Quad Shities is one plant that really sux and the house people can't stand us.
LOL I for one am soooo glad there were road techs at quad this year...it took a house tech 2 hours to smear out an 6x6x10 scaffold. *he is union i guess*, would have taken the roadies about 20 minutes.
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Let us not forget that sometimes people post things...and then realize that it wasnt in good taste...or maybe they sober up
:P dont always assume a "moderator" done the deed.
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Quad Shities is one plant that really sux and the house people can't stand us.
I thought QC had gotten a little bit better but I guess they're still the same sorry bunch of chicken farmers they were 10 years ago. I walked unknowingly into that plant on the night shift, reported to the house supervision and was greeted with, "The scabs are here". Just a few short days later I told the house super to call security 'cause I was sure as hell going up one of his techs' ass. Somehow I made it through that outage without being canned or having charges pressed against me.
Out of the business now but enjoy seeing some of the old names and memories.
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I agree with bhatton! :-[ I find it hard to believe that Brunswick is even on the list! :o But it also got 4 votes so far! The only other plant on the list that I've been to is Robinson, so I can hardly fairly express my opinion here. Some noteable exceptions to the list might be:Perry, TMI, STP. I'm sure everyone has their own dislikes, and all for many different reasons. To be fair, and objective all of the plants need to be listed. Maybe Mike can do it. You know all of nuclear power seem to be very interested in "benchmarking" Lets see how your plant rates! ;)
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As a former ComEd employee, I assure you that you'll receive the same fine treatment at any of the Exelon sites.
It's sort of like "Southern Hospitality", only it's more appropriately called "Northern Hostility".
I swear I had a red laser dot shining on my forehead the whole time I worked there.
It was a real motivator for me.
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Just a reminder ComEd(y) is now (Un)Exelon and also includes Clinton in Illinois
Peach Bottom in Pa
Limerick in Pa
TMI in Pa
Oyster Creek in NJ.
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I thought I would switch out robinson for beaver valley.There wasn't much action on robinson.I guess robinson didn't suck that much?
Seems ip2 and communist edison are running strong.
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8) 8)I worked IP2 IN '87 '. IT WAS OK ,SEEMS TO ME MOST PEOPLE FEARED PEEKSKILL. ::) ::) ::) ::)
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Cooper Station--hmmmm---I really liked my stay at Cooper. I liked the house techs (many I haven't seen since Ark.). The area was great (you have to be a country boy though). I will definately go back IF I am allowed to. Excellent food and the cost of living is VERY reasonable.
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Of course, IP2. They are in the 80's, 1880's. They care nothing for safety or procedures. They even tried to cover up an OSHA injury. One supervisor, Bob, is so totally incompetant that he is going to be let go. Good ridance.
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In 1988 I was out at in caly , at Nuclear paridise! it was great!but I was in the site cords office and he was on the phone to the home office PSESI, and Frank was shouting over the phone I would not take that tech if he was the last tech in the world! hold on Send him to Dresden thats a good place for him. after being there in 92 as a tech I seen why.
doing gennys with Numanco I thought Briadwood was great.
I worked dresden a few years ago with GE its not so bad now but I am out of the HERD. ;D
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I once heard a guy... and he was a house mouse... say if he was on the express elevator to hell and the only stop was at Robinson he would tell em to keep going! (ev)
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Which Bob? There are about 10 of them.
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:o What happened to CR3? lol Well the staff became pathological after they were on the watch list. They believed what management told them, and people that knew and worked and had fun together for 20 years became isolated and fearful or each other. Its sad to say, but its true. Most of those people are "home-grown" so they have a fear of not being able to do anything else or having to change their lives. Lots of good people there, but too bad they became the victim of corporate manipulation-so that their VPs could retire at $1000/day. (That alone is immoral!)
alphadude
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Plants I hate most are the ones that have me barred. At the top of that list are the ones that have escorted me out by gun point. (TMI -twice!). You bastards!
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Never thought I would see the day when PSL would make this list. PSL used to be such a nice place to work. My guess is Seabrook is next.
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I hear ********* says Mcguire really sucks.
Reason for edit: Removed name
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Worst: current
Best: Last
Next Best: Next
(Standard contractor answers!)
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Indian Point plants by far. I like most of the house techs, but management has no *****.
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Plants and the people you have to work for are what you make of it, if you have a poor attitude or work ethic then more then likely,you won't like the plant or the people you have to work for.
But if I had to name a plant it would have to be Perry, but I did what was right for me instead of sitting there and hating it, I quit.
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Can anybody say "DUKE"
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I voted all of Comed. The reasons if listed would probably get me blacklisted, which might not be a bad thing after all.
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Since i just returned from doing a sgrp/head change at ANO i would have to say this is byfar the WORST !!!!!!!!!! plant i have ever been at !! please if i ever decide to return someone stop me please !
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Haven't worked ANO myself, but I have noticed something. Every plant that SGT has, or has had a contract at, seems to S__K. Well, at least until they leave.
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Kind of funny... in late 2001 I was heading out on the road after several years of decommissioning, and so had to take whatever Bartlett had open...which was Crystal River and Monticello.
I had always wanted to work Monticello, as I heard it was a friendly, easy-going place. I had avoided Crystal for years. I heard some things about the plant and the area that made me sure I didn't ever want to be there.
As it turned out, Crystal River was one of the best places I'd ever worked. Friendly people who acted professionally and treated you the same. Monticello, however was the outage from hell. I've never been treated worse.
...Just shows ta go ya...you never really know a place until you've actually been there.
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Monticello is an NMC plant now. Things are different. As long as NMC is there - don't expect it to be like the good old days. You could say that about any NMC plant now. :'(
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Having not yet visited any on the list I am a loss to say which one I hate. I do know that I will most likely NEVER go to any plant in Illinois,,, no matter how much money they promise me. :D
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As I was told by the house tech's before I went, friends don't let friends go to Crystal River. This is a Hot PWR and the place could have used a coat of paint years ago. Management is very disorganized and most of the house techs don't have a clue about conditions in their own plant. 2 good things their Traning Instructor was top notch for the R.P.'s and the house techs that work the shared resources were Great!!! I hope I never need a job that bad to have to go back!!!!!
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the choices for picking should be revised to all the EXELON plants...really there is no difference in the way they are, from Clinton on up to Ex-Com ED, over to TMI, Peach all the way to the Jersey Shore & up to Cripple Creek!
They all SUCK!!!!!!
In all fairness though...Oyster Creek has sucked from 14 years ago & Peach Bottom is the f-ing bottom OF a scuzzy, human waste barrel!!!!
:P
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Having only worked brunswick and beaver valley from the list I cannot rate the other ones. but will grade brunswick and beaver somewhere around a 4 to a 6. I will say from my visit to brunswick last spring that things have improved there alot since i was last there in 92-93 when they cut up a start up source without knowing what it was ! but as always still room from improvement. as for beaver not really thrilled about hp program there. would like to add ANO to the list so i can grade it a negative 5 on my sliding scale.
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the choices for picking should be revised to all the EXELON plants...
I will set up a separate poll for each Multi-site operator. Give me a little bit of time.
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cool
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OK,
if you want to rate a whole company, here is the link:
http://www.nukeworker.com/forum/index.php/topic,7857.0.html (http://www.nukeworker.com/forum/index.php/topic,7857.0.html)
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humm good ones here.
I once heard a guy tell the head of dresden he would sooner blow a heard of goats then to come back to this plant.
I was out at songs in 88 witht he Ex wife ,( should have listen to John Goss about wifes he was right) and I was in the site cords. office and he was on the phone with the home office telling someone I would not take that Tech if he was the last tech on earth.Send him to Dresden thats a good place for him.
oh I was at dresden 2 times once as an HP the other times with GE the later was better.
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Having been out of the plants for years it's interesting to see the list of hated. Back in the late 70's me and Gordon Dalby worked December night shift at Pilgrim because all house techs were barred from the protected area due to dose. It's the only plant I was ever at where you could pick up dose just sitting the HP Supervisors office and you knew that radwaste was moving resin drums on the turbine floor when the portal monitors at the guard shack alarmed. Oh for the good old days....
Of all the plants I worked I would have had to vote for ANY Comed site as the absolute worst. The plants were nice and clean but the staff treated you like crap. Only place I worked where they had walkways taped on the floor and contract techs had to stay within the walkway. Our breakroom was at the end of a dead end hall.
Best place ever was Turkey Point but I shifted to house tech during my stay there so I'm somewhat prejudiced.
Guess I should say that I've been out of the HP business for the last time since the early 90's and am now a Senior Executive with an Airline in Las Vegas. Would love to hear from the guys I used to work with or who remember me; good, bad, or indifferent.
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who are ya?
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I started as a deconner at Brunswick back in 92. we were treated like slaves and if we didn't like it they could get someone off the street. all in all a great experience, because when i went on the road starting with Vogtle where i was treated like gold (even after pissing off the asst. plant manager), i decided the road was the place for me.
i've heard from many friends that Brunswick has done a total turn around and that its their favorite place. since my home is three miles from the plant, i may have to try it again sometime.
My worst place was Dresden, mainly because of the strong anti contractor attitude (tires were being slashed). it quickly replaced Brunswick as my "never going back to unless i have to" plant
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my fav dislyked plant aint listed. point beach. bin a long time since i wuz there, but the plant attitude totally sukt. they had a couple werkers get flash burnt by using acetone to clean sum parts when the trouble light they were using for illumination fell, broke, sparked, and ignited the cleaner. did they go to an agent with more applicable flammable limit? nope. they changed to florescent trouble light. don't know iffen they had enny more burn accidents like this, as i put the plant in my rearview mirror.
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Hands down.........it would have to be Braidwood........ the number one arm pit, they do call it the mother ship, oh by the way how many hundreds of rail cars are they going to need when they start to excavate the dirt around the leaky pipes?
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"No one is as good as they think they are and no one is as bad as we think they are."
No need to say whose quote it is, it stands on it's own merit.
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By far when Gulf States Utilities owned RiverBend YOUOVER, and D.C. Cook. Some of the house people were just plain rude, and the parking lot cop.
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I was at HB Robinson many years ago. I remember the contractor break trailer was between a stinkin' mountain of garbage bags and the honey-huts. We couldn't eat in the cafeteria or use the break rooms or the indoor plumbing. The tables in our trailer were covered in dirt and one of my buddy's got canned by a House Supervisor that caught him after he picked up a newspaper and absent-mindedly began reading it. I've heard that it's changed and also heard that it hasn't change much at all, but I've got no reason to ever go back.
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I remember at QUAD CITIES when the hp's in the union would file grievences on us for using the copy machine to make copies of our surveys.They said hey you are taking our work so we said ok,and bombarded them with surveys to make copies of.
Well that change real quick.
Yeah we were taking their work only,but when it came time to doing the work they didn't want to do it.
The other time in the 90's we were going to start pulling crd's right at shift change with no pre job brief,like that never happens.
Maintanence shows up we did all our surveys/air samples and the job went on,the night shift came on after.
The next day the head maint. guy wanted us all fired because he said it was all rush and his men could have been hurt or killed,killed mined you?
Well first it was their fault for doing the rush job because they jack around all morning and did nothing till the last minute.
Then he kept going on about how his men could of been killed doing this work,because it was so rush.
So we said killed huh?
He said yes killed!
Then we said if you knew they could have been killed why did you send them into do the job if there was a safety concern,risking your mens lives? just to get the job done!
well we didnt get fired,and he got days off for risking his mens lives with this killed garbage.
Thats what he got for helping his union brothers at contact time,by being an idiot.