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Career Path => Nuclear Operator => Topic started by: lionhart on Jan 08, 2009, 09:55
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I'm familiar with the pay for NLO, the plant I'm speaking with starts NLO's at $27 per hour. I was wondering if anyone had any input on what one could expect to make down the road as an RO, SRO and possibly some management and leadership roles.
I've searched, I've found that SRO's are usually salary..... but I've had no luck in finding any figures.
Thanks for you input.
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That is because they are wildly different depending on a lot of factors including your experience and your plants location, etc. ROs at my plant top out at 49/hr right now. SROs start at 90k+ license bonus (20K). Licensed on shift SROs clear around 150K-160K depending on their annual performance bonus. The sky is the limit after that.
Justin
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ROs make I think 45/hr... SRO vary depending on the individual, but from what I have heard the base pay is at least the 85-100k+ plus 20k license bonus + performance bonus (up to 20-35% of base salary). I am sure some people on the forum may have more detailed numbers than I do. The key is the ability to move up post license. I have also heard that some unions have a set increase in pay to go out of union to management (if anyone can confirm this that would be great... I was told 30%)
I know of a few SROs that were promoted to EM or Mechanical manager, the best part is they still want them to have the SRO license current, so they have to keep that up but get the nice bonuses. It is a LOT of work, but so is an SRO. The best part is no more rotating shift work.
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ROs make I think 45/hr... SRO vary depending on the individual, but from what I have heard the base pay is at least the 85-100k+ plus 20k license bonus + performance bonus (up to 20-35% of base salary). I am sure some people on the forum may have more detailed numbers than I do. The key is the ability to move up post license. I have also heard that some unions have a set increase in pay to go out of union to management (if anyone can confirm this that would be great... I was told 30%)
I know of a few SROs that were promoted to EM or Mechanical manager, the best part is they still want them to have the SRO license current, so they have to keep that up but get the nice bonuses. It is a LOT of work, but so is an SRO. The best part is no more rotating shift work.
Get in the industry first then post about salaries. Your entire last paragraph is incorrect as is what you said about Union Increases to management positions. Most ROs make around 40 per hour plus bonuses of course.
Mike
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Mike,
I interned in nuke plants through my college career and understand I do not know everything. But I have gained more information than the average college student on the matter. I have talked extensively with everyone from NEOs through Ops director to the company C.O.O. talking to me about salaries types of positions etc etc. I have the union contract book in front of me with union salaries (In this case RO).
As I said, I know for a fact an EM manager that is still maintaining his license since they want him to maintain it. Both the SOS and the individual told me he still gets to keep that bonus since he still has an active SRO license. This may be a very unusual practice but I know it is being done. As for the % raise of a union to management, I stated it was something I had heard and was asking the forum if people could maybe confirm this.
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2008 numbers at my plant...
Average RO = 160k
Average SRO = 180k
RO's work a heck of a lot of overtime. Again this is average. There were some RO's that made 225k (2300 equivalent OT hours).
Average RO hours were around 1300 equivalent hours worked.
Average SRO hours were around 1050 equivalent hours worked.
Crazy if you ask me.
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I work at Palo Verde Nuclear Generating Station in Phoenix, Arizona. I was the highest pait Reactor Operator on site in 2008 with 2289 Hours of equivalent overtime. Time & a half and double time hours. I made 226,000$ with all of my bonus's, etc. Get out of the Navy ASAP. An average RO will make about 120,000$ per year at most plants!
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WOW that is a lot of overtime! LOL worth it?
Justin
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"WOW that is a lot of overtime! LOL worth it?"
Even with all that OT, we still get to go home and see our families every day. So I'd say yes.
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"WOW that is a lot of overtime! LOL worth it?"
Even with all that OT, we still get to go home and see our families every day. So I'd say yes.
Ya to each their own, as it goes! For me, actually having a life is more important than a super fat pay check. Guys just need to be careful that they don't raise their standard of living up to their over time level. What if something would happen that didn't allow you to do all that over time anymore? You would be screwed. There are a few guys at my plant like that... they HAVE to work a ton of overtime. Not good, IMO.
Justin
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Actually Justin, you bring up a good point. Brunswick did a massive hiring campaign last year and hired (me, the bottom of the barrel!) a lot of AO's and SRO's. The SRO's are ecstatic right now because they don't get FORCED to work a couple of days when they are supposed to be off because there actually enough guys to cover all of the shift slots now. However, the AO's are really scrambling to find some overtime because we now have enough AO's that only one or two actually get any overtime each week. These guys are freaking-out because they're looking at a pretty substantial pay cut this year because we actually are meeting our staffing goals!
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I work at Palo Verde Nuclear Generating Station in Phoenix, Arizona. I was the highest pait Reactor Operator on site in 2008 with 2289 Hours of equivalent overtime. Time & a half and double time hours. I made 226,000$ with all of my bonus's, etc. Get out of the Navy ASAP. An average RO will make about 120,000$ per year at most plants!
"Equivalent hours" - Is this straight time plus the straight time equivalent of all OT, or actual hours worked in total? Or something else entirely?
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"Equivalent hours" - Is this straight time plus the straight time equivalent of all OT, or actual hours worked in total? Or something else entirely?
I believe it's the straight time equivalent of the OT.
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"Equivalent hours" - Is this straight time plus the straight time equivalent of all OT, or actual hours worked in total? Or something else entirely?
Equivalent hours: If you work 10 hours at time-and-a-half that is 15 equivalent hours. At double time that would be 20 equivalent hours. So, 72 hours in a week is 40 + (1.5*32) = 88 equivalent hours assuming no double time.
Clear as mud?
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When does double-time typically kick in? And for the folks in that $225k/year range - man, that is alot of OT!! Is working that much usually a personal choice or an expectation? Life would be better if my dogs didn't attack and my kid's "Stranger Danger" training wasn't triggered upon entering the door.
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shipoffools are you in the Navy?
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In the industry then?
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When does double-time typically kick in? And for the folks in that $225k/year range - man, that is alot of OT!! Is working that much usually a personal choice or an expectation? Life would be better if my dogs didn't attack and my kid's "Stranger Danger" training wasn't triggered upon entering the door.
It can vary by location, contract or not, etc. At some locations OT is 1.5X, with 2X on Sundays, others might be 1.75X or 2X or even 1.8X. Management might, for example get paid 1.5X with a cap that might be less than actual 1.5X. (e.g.-Normal pay is $20/hr, 1.5X is then $30/hr but the cap is $28.50/hr so that's what they get paid. And yes, those figures are intentionally wrong, just giving an example)
In other words, your mileage may will vary by location.
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Equivalent hours: If you work 10 hours at time-and-a-half that is 15 equivalent hours. At double time that would be 20 equivalent hours. So, 72 hours in a week is 40 + (1.5*32) = 88 equivalent hours assuming no double time.
Clear as mud?
48 equivalent hours not 88.
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I think he meant 40 + 48 = 88 ;D
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200k is a pretty good pay for an RO or SRO.
I worked like a dog (on my shoulder) my last year on shift (1997) and made 108k on a $27 an hour union scale. So it makes sense with the 13 years of wage hikes factored in. That's about 3% per year.
(I'm STILL glad I moved on...)
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48 equivalent hours not 88.
No, 88 equivalent hours worked. Are you going to give the first 40 away?
The overtime is 48 equivalent. The week is 88 equivalent, as shown in the equation 40 + (1.5*32) = 88... which is why I put the equation there, so people might read the whole thing and understand. I guess I expect a lot.
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No, 88 equivalent hours worked. Are you going to give the first 40 away?
The overtime is 48 equivalent. The week is 88 equivalent, as shown in the equation 40 + (1.5*32) = 88... which is why I put the equation there, so people might read the whole thing and understand. I guess I expect a lot.
OP that posted making 226k quoted 2289 equivalent hours ot.... hence your example depicts 48 hours equivalent OT. There is no need to add 40 hours to the equivalent total since the first 40 is straight time and therefore does not need to be converted to an equivalency quotient. I work at the same plant the OP does and know what he is talking about. Just trying correct previous miss-statements by you and others. BTW... OP made 260k in 2009 with ONLY 1600 hours of equivalent OT.
You need to expect a lot more from yourself.
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OP that posted making 226k quoted 2289 equivalent hours ot.... hence your example depicts 48 hours equivalent OT. There is no need to add 40 hours to the equivalent total since the first 40 is straight time and therefore does not need to be converted to an equivalency quotient. I work at the same plant the OP does and know what he is talking about. Just trying correct previous miss-statements by you and others. BTW... OP made 260k in 2009 with ONLY 1600 hours of equivalent OT.
You need to expect a lot more from yourself.
How many years of experience of SRO is this based on?
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How many years of experience of SRO is this based on?
More than you have. There is no realistic expectation of making that amount of money with any amount of experience as strictly an SRO.
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More than you have. There is no realistic expectation of making that amount of money with any amount of experience as strictly an SRO.
He stated that he's an RO
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He stated that he's an RO
Yet your question was about SRO.
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Yet your question was about SRO.
ah ok, typo, how many years of RO experience*
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ah ok, typo, how many years of RO experience*
Regardless, 200K+ is not a reasonable expectation, especially considering the new work hour rules that were implemented since those guys were pulling in that kind of cash. To be clear, they are the exception, not the rule.
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Great reading this. I tell you though that just seeing those numbers as a remote possibility was pretty amazing. I gotta get my 2 year Applied Science degree and start searching for a job in earnest!