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Career Path => Radiation Safety => Topic started by: SloGlo on Dec 27, 2017, 08:19
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gist wondering watt companies are paying outage r.p. tex to take this training. home plant pay, i.e. know diem, outage pay, wit oar wit out diem, separate training pay rate, hire oar lower than a work rate?
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Mr. Glo,
Please explain for my benefit what you think Gap Training is.
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I believe he is referring to part of the "Nuclear Promise" at power plants, for contract RP technicians. - Which promises to reduce the testing, and verification resources needed by the utilities (by shifting it to the contractors).
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I believe he is referring to part of the "Nuclear Promise" at power plants, for contract RP technicians. - Which promises to reduce the testing, and verification resources needed by the utilities (by shifting it to the contractors).
watt he sayed.
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d&z is two pay $27/hr, max at ate ours, four taking the test after won completes on-line training. this is there training pay rate, witch is knot as much aze they're pay rate.
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BHI is $28/h for 8 hours after passing proctored exams at utility. You should have hired on with a better company. Jest sayin' sluggo
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Do I hear $30/hr for ten hrs taking a proctored test at a Sylvan test center?
The NUF is going away and there are Sr. techs that cannot read a meter.
I'm waiting for the massive contamination event caused by the 'nuclear promise' - cheaper is better.
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Do I hear $30/hr for ten hrs taking a proctored test at a Sylvan test center?
The NUF is going away and there are Sr. techs that cannot read a meter.
I'm waiting for the massive contamination event caused by the 'nuclear promise' - cheaper is better.
butt it will bee according to procedure.
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Beta Ant you are exactly correct. But you get what you pay for. And not an erg more. The commercial nuclear world seems to need a bunch of PCM monitors who can not climb ladders, can not go into dark, high, tight spaces, and require a guaranteed 2 on / 2 off schedule. Isn't it odd that they earn the pay same rate (based on industry time) as technicians who actually can support high-risk radiological work?
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Beta Ant you are exactly correct. But you get what you pay for. And not an erg more. The commercial nuclear world seems to need a bunch of PCM monitors who can not climb ladders, can not go into dark, high, tight spaces, and require a guaranteed 2 on / 2 off schedule. Isn't it odd that they earn the pay same rate (based on industry time) as technicians who actually can support high-risk radiological work?
sew, watt quals wood yew put in place two git what her asking four?
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sew, watt quals wood yew put in place two git what her asking four?
Quals won't help in the case of an aging workforce or unmotivated individuals. As long as no major incidents happen RPMs will still get a chubby proclaiming "We're 100% staffed", no matter the caliber of technicians.
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eye kin remember 100% staffed outages, butt knot this millenium.
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In my experience (all from this century, and all as a house tech) the 100% staffed line has been a joke. We repeatedly get damn close to or hit 100% staffed, but with a fair portion of the technicians having the qualities previously described. Also I feel that a lot of motivated Jrs aren't being afforded the experience of working side by side with the remaining strong Srs. Too many people working SOPs to 3.1.
But more on topic...At my site we're in the process of doing our NISP "familiarization training" which consists of read and signs. Basically "here's our massively overhauled new NISP procedures, all the old ones are out".
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Too many people working SOPs to 3.1.
Been a problem as long as I can remember. But is it the responsibility of the facilities to to train contract non ANSI techs?
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I don't know the right answer to that. I know it's in the best interest of the facilities for Jrs. to gain the experience. I think most would agree that classroom training only goes so far, and the only way to get real OJT or experience is at the utilities. I have a very limited range of experience (all at one site), but from what I gather on this site and from morning beers at the river is that outages are getting sh**tier. I know as a Lead I try to ensure a comfortable rotation can happen but sometimes there's no getting around it. I implore the Jrs. to get their routines done ASAP so they can actually gain real experience in between SOP duties
Modified for language
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.... I know it's in the best interest of the facilities for Jrs. to gain the experience....
no, not really,....
house techs can fill the "youth gap" during outage season,...
SOP wardens cost less than fully capable 18.1 or 3.1 types,...
there are no new plants coming on-line anytime soon,...
at least 5 of the current plants will be going off the grid in the next five years,....
juniors who go to DnD and get involved in pool to pad plus major component removal and segmentation will get the prerequisite "real job" experience they need to transition into the operating plants at about the same time that the biggest wave of "aging workforce" 3.1s just flatout fallout of the employment eligibility pool,...
the current operating nukes are pretty much all "bridge" base load units between where we are today and the "new green technology" base load units which are just somewhere over the fantasy horizon,...
as those one a year for the next five years plants go off line the remaining plants will have all the experienced RP Dept. candidates they can handle,...
plus, the USN and the shipyards are still cranking 'em out every year, year after year,...
there may not be a glut of talent but, properly managed, there is enough,...
oh yeah, almost forgot,... (sic) 4 beercourt,.... [beer]
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oh yeah, almost forgot,... (sic) 4 beercourt,.... [beer]
know probs wit yer post, butt gaught lost hear....
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know probs wit yer post, butt gaught lost hear....
back in the day, 'court made mention of my thread grammar, diction, sentence structure, and punctuation vis a vis the queen's rules of english,...
I was not to be deterred,...
it became a topic of banter for a few posts,...
afterwards, and nowadays much less often, I would deign acknowledgment of 'court's attention to propriety,...
and my "pert' much don't give a dam it bugs him" sentiment on the topic,... :P ;) :) 8)
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glw,
wow! personalized coaching bye the beercourt! dew knot think eye ever received that level of attention... they're was a time witch he kneaded two translate icy lite beer four an unknowledgeable respondent too my actual meaning of i.c. light beer, an iron city brewery product, butt aye bee leave that's the closest eye gaught two counselling 😁🍻
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back in the day, 'court made mention of my thread grammar, diction, sentence structure, and punctuation vis a vis the queen's rules of english,...
a paradigm shift no doubt
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BHI is $28/h for 8 hours after passing proctored exams at utility. You should have hired on with a better company. Jest sayin' sluggo
d&z has gap training and test on line inn the comfort of yore home.
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Is this "RP Gap" training a standardized training class or is it up to each utility to create its own program?
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standardized
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What happened to Beercourt?
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What happened to Beercourt?
Off topic.
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BHI is $28/h for 8 hours after passing proctored exams at utility. You should have hired on with a better company. Jest sayin' sluggo
whale, my prob wit d$z payment fore this training/test is it's knot there rate four work, butt 86% of traveler rate n 72% of home plant rate. sew, aye yam thinking eye wood like yore company's pay rate lessen than i due d$z. gist saying...😎
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I have been hearing rumors that the CIRP and Gap Training isn't working so well, that the NUF is making a come back.
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I have been hearing rumors that the CIRP and Gap Training isn't working so well, that the NUF is making a come back.
Well, some companies dropped out of NEI when it came out. -- So they might not be too keen to do it the new way.
The new way may be painful at first, but it really is a better method. Harder, yes. But better.
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I really did not think the Gap training was very adequate. How much more can they dummy this down?
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I really did not think the Gap training was very adequate. How much more can they dummy this down?
The Gap training is garbage, but if you have to do it from scratch, then its a good program.