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Title: Nuclear Plants Closing
Post by: Rennhack on Feb 20, 2016, 08:59
Indian Point 3 4/1/2021
Indian Point 2
4/1/2020
Oyster Creek 12/31/2019
Pilgrim 5/31/2019
Palisades 10/1/2018
Quad Cities  6/1/2018
Clinton  6/1/2017
FitzPatrick 1/27/2017

Fort Calhoun
10/24/16
Vermont Yankee  12/29/14  DECON in Progress
San Onofre 2   6/7/2013   SAFSTOR
San Onofre 3   6/7/2013   SAFSTOR
Kewaunee   5/7/2013   SAFSTOR
Crystal River 3   2/20/2013   SAFSTOR
Millstone 1   7/21/1998   SAFSTOR
Big Rock Point   8/29/1997   DECON Completed
Zion 1   2/21/1997   DECON in Progress
Maine Yankee   12/6/1996   DECON Completed
Haddam Neck   12/5/1996   DECON Completed
Zion 2   9/19/1996   DECON in Progress
San Onofre 1   11/30/1992   DECON in Progress
Trojan   11/9/1992   DECON Completed
Yankee Rowe   10/1/1991   DECON Completed
Fort St. Vrain   8/18/1989   DECON Completed
Shoreham   6/28/1989   DECON Completed
Rancho Seco   6/7/1989   DECON Completed
LaCrosse   4/30/1987   SAFSTOR - License transferred to EnergySolutions for D&D
Shippingport   1/1/1982   DECON Completed
Three Mile Island 2   3/28/1979   SAFSTOR to be D&D when unit 1 shuts down.
Dresden 1   10/31/1978   SAFSTOR
Humboldt Bay 3   7/2/1976   DECON in Progress
Indian Point 1   10/31/1974   SAFSTOR
Peach Bottom 1   10/31/1974   SAFSTOR
Fermi 1   9/22/1972   DECON
Saxton   5/1/1972   DECON Completed
NS Savannah   11/1/1970   SAFSTOR
Bonus*   6/1/1968   ENTOMB
Elk River*   2/1/1968   DECON Completed
Pathfinder   9/16/1967   DECON Completed
CVTR***   1/1/1967   DECON Completed
Piqua*   1/1/1966   ENTOMB
Hallam*   9/1/1964   ENTOMB
GE VBWR   12/9/1963   SAFSTOR
Title: Re: FitzPatrick joins Pilgrim and VY
Post by: GLW on Feb 20, 2016, 09:23
You forgot Santa Susana and Pathfinder.

N-reactor can count as N-Reactor supplied the grid, NS Savannah did not as far as I have ever known.

I say this as the most common factor for the greatest number of reactors listed is that they supplied the grid.
Title: Re: FitzPatrick joins Pilgrim and VY
Post by: hamsamich on Feb 20, 2016, 09:32
Nice list.  I was told Humbolt is pretty much done.  Can't be sure though.
Title: Re: FitzPatrick joins Pilgrim and VY
Post by: GLW on Feb 20, 2016, 09:34
Nice list.  I was told Humbolt is pretty much done.  Can't be sure though.

several more years to go,...

perhaps you heard the funding is pretty much done,... :-\
Title: Re: FitzPatrick joins Pilgrim and VY
Post by: Radwraith on Feb 20, 2016, 09:35
Take note: VY, Fitz and Pilgrim...All Entergy. All shut down before their time! I think this says as much about the Utility as it does anything! What is wrong with Entergy that they can't keep the northern plants running?
Title: Re: FitzPatrick joins Pilgrim and VY
Post by: Rerun on Feb 20, 2016, 09:35
Dang
Title: Re: FitzPatrick joins Pilgrim and VY
Post by: Rerun on Feb 20, 2016, 09:37
Has nothing to do with Entergy has everything to do with these being small single unit plants in a non friendly environment.
Title: Re: FitzPatrick joins Pilgrim and VY
Post by: GLW on Feb 20, 2016, 09:41
Take note: VY, Fitz and Pilgrim...All Entergy. All shut down before their time! I think this says as much about the Utility as it does anything! What is wrong with Entergy that they can't keep the northern plants running?

Why build FLEX buildings that have a 1 in 10,000 chance of ever being needed?!?!?!?

Come to think of it, why build them even if they are needed, there are other more frugal and smarter ways of getting the same result for less investment,....

Nothing is wrong with Entergy,...

the 3 boilers make little economic sense all things considered,...

they could make better sense,...

but those circumstances are not happening,.... [coffee]
Title: Re: FitzPatrick joins Pilgrim and VY
Post by: Rennhack on Feb 20, 2016, 11:09
Has nothing to do with Entergy has everything to do with these being small single unit plants in a non friendly environment.

Mr Rerun is correct.  IPEC (IP2&3) are also in an unfriendly environment, but there are 2 of them....  Palisades is a single unit, but it has a contract to sell its electricity to 2022.

If it were an 'Entergy' issue, then Kewaunee and SONGS and a few others wouldn't be on the list.  What you do see though, is when Entergy bought those units, it made $ sense with $4.50/gal gas, and now it doesn't with $1.70/gal gas.

So many of us non-liberals like to say 'let the market speak'... well, it has spoken.

I'm conflicted between wanting low energy prices, and wanting them to be high enough for nuclear to make $ sense.
Title: Re: FitzPatrick joins Pilgrim and VY
Post by: Bonds 25 on Feb 20, 2016, 11:16
Why spend 70 million on "Fukushima Mods" that really don't decrease your core damage risk much? Especially when you're 3 1/2 hours from the coast.......

Oh wait, because the NRC says you have to  ;D
Title: Re: FitzPatrick joins Pilgrim and VY
Post by: SloGlo on Feb 21, 2016, 12:06
Why spend 70 million on "Fukushima Mods" that really don't decrease your core damage risk much? Especially when you're 3 1/2 hours from the coast.......

Oh wait, because the NRC says you have to  ;D
yins got a lake eerie oar michigan sew nammy yule sea why.
Title: Re: FitzPatrick joins Pilgrim and VY
Post by: GLW on Feb 21, 2016, 06:24
pretty much on schedule:

"Renaissance in Reverse: Competition Pushes Aging U.S. Nuclear Reactors to the Brink of Economic Abandonment,"

....a review of the remaining U.S. fleet reveals that 38 reactors in 23 states are at risk of early retirement, with 12 facing the greatest risk of being shutdown, according to a major new analysis by Mark Cooper, senior fellow for economic analysis, Institute for Energy and the Environment, Vermont Law School.....


....The 12 reactors (in alphabetical order) were found to be at greatest risk of early retirement and their risk
factors are Clinton (selling into a tough market), Davis-Besse (large number of risk factors), Fitzpatrick (high cost but offset by high market clearing price), Fort Calhoun (outage, poor performance), Ginna (single unit with negative margin, existing contract), Indian Point (license extension, state opposition), Millstone (tax issues), Nine Mile Point (site size saves it, existing contract), Oyster Creek (already set to retire early), Palisades (repair impending, local opposition) Pilgrim (large number of risk factors, local opposition), and Vermont Yankee (tax issue and state opposition).


http://216.30.191.148/atriskreactors.html

to be objective the author does have an agenda and it is not favorable to making electricity via nuclear fission,...

the author would like to claim 38% of the current on-line reactors are at risk and settles on 12% being essentially "imminent",...

I might go with 6% in the next six years,...

but really, they should have gone anyhow, there is some concern, even on my part, about extending some of these old dogs out twenty or more years,...

it would be nice to actually see a new construction plant come on line in the next six years,...

but historically, we are way too far behind on the sustainability curve,...

woo hoo some more,.... :-\


three years ago we had about 100 plants on line,...

since then we've lost VY, Kewaunee & CR3,...

by 2019 we also lose Pilgrim and Fitz and IIRC Oyster Creek goes away too,...


I might go with 6% in the next six years,...


I'm right on schedule,...

and the apologists are wrong, still wrong, six years later:

As the Second Coming spoke and delivered his prophecy, the true believers admired his vision, while the negative minded nukeworker bloggers prepared their ridicule.

This post is one prime example. He takes a positive step toward enhancing nuclear power and all we get on this blog is negativity. All I can say is TYPICAL.....

not happening before January 2017,....not happening at all,...
Title: Re: FitzPatrick joins Pilgrim and VY
Post by: Rerun on Feb 21, 2016, 11:52
Dont do it and you have no nuke plants at all
Title: Re: FitzPatrick joins Pilgrim and VY
Post by: GLW on Feb 21, 2016, 12:04
Dont do it and you have no nuke plants at all

don't do what?!?!?

we've covered a few points of contention on this thread,...
Title: Re: FitzPatrick joins Pilgrim and VY
Post by: Rerun on Feb 21, 2016, 02:16
Fukushima items
Title: Re: FitzPatrick joins Pilgrim and VY
Post by: GLW on Feb 21, 2016, 04:05
Fukushima items

as I understand it the licensee has no choice to not build unless they choose to shutdown,....

which comes back to the current paradigm where the regulators and their bosses in the current administration talk an okay nuclear game but don't walk the talk, they shut down Yucca so there is no final repository, they demand Fukushima and security upgrades which push the smaller margin sites into being untenable, and they reassure with talk about "future, safe, nuclear" but in the last eight years there is no new nuclear, and as illustrated before a couple of ways, once the market gets below a certain percentage, nuclear just drops off the radar screen,....

when nuclear loses it's economy of scale, it no longer makes sense as a commercial business venture,...

perhaps some viability if run as a public benefit corporation,...

but, there you go,... [coffee]
Title: Re: FitzPatrick joins Pilgrim and VY
Post by: Bonds 25 on Feb 21, 2016, 04:38
There are literally no legit reasons to......

1. Have Security as the largest department at a Nuclear Power Plant.....its INSANITY

2. Require already established Nuclear Power Plants to spend MILLIONS on beyond design basis upgrades (no matter where they are located) because Mother Nature decided to be a huge bitch 5 years ago and the Japanese decided it was better to blow up their reactor buildings than vent.
Title: Re: FitzPatrick joins Pilgrim and VY
Post by: Rennhack on Feb 21, 2016, 06:58
There are literally no legit reasons to......
1. Have Security as the largest department at a Nuclear Power Plant.....its INSANITY

At the site I currently work at, security is 25% of the total work force.  That is a lot.  I had no idea it was that large.
Title: Re: FitzPatrick joins Pilgrim and VY
Post by: Bonds 25 on Feb 21, 2016, 07:16
BTW, your NUF cram notes were a perfect refresher for somebody who hasn't taken it in 10 years. Thanks for the effort!! I got a 94, and that was from just reading it once.
Title: Re: FitzPatrick joins Pilgrim and VY
Post by: Rennhack on Feb 21, 2016, 08:39
BTW, your NUF cram notes were a perfect refresher for somebody who hasn't taken it in 10 years. Thanks for the effort!! I got a 94, and that was from just reading it once.

Thank you, please post a review: http://amzn.to/1QaFjMS

Only 5 reviews so far  [SadPanda]
Title: Re: FitzPatrick joins Pilgrim and VY
Post by: Bonds 25 on Feb 21, 2016, 11:56
Done  :)
Title: Re: FitzPatrick joins Pilgrim and VY
Post by: tolstoy on Feb 22, 2016, 07:53
Take note: VY, Fitz and Pilgrim...All Entergy. All shut down before their time! I think this says as much about the Utility as it does anything! What is wrong with Entergy that they can't keep the northern plants running?

Single unit plants in an unregulated market.
Title: Re: FitzPatrick joins Pilgrim and VY
Post by: GLW on Feb 22, 2016, 09:50
Single unit plants in an unregulated market.

how many times over can we paraphrase this?!?! :P ;) :) 8)
Title: Re: FitzPatrick joins Pilgrim and VY
Post by: Rennhack on Feb 22, 2016, 07:42
Done  :)

Thanks
Title: Re: FitzPatrick joins Pilgrim and VY
Post by: chuckdhuff on Feb 24, 2016, 09:25
Take note: VY, Fitz and Pilgrim...All Entergy. All shut down before their time! I think this says as much about the Utility as it does anything! What is wrong with Entergy that they can't keep the northern plants running?
I tend to agree with your reasoning.

Nothing is wrong with Entergy,...
Really.... well tell me which plants are in Column 4? Who are the owners? I haven't been impressed with the Entergy Model in recent years, just my opinion.

Mr Rerun is correct.  IPEC (IP2&3) are also in an unfriendly environment, but there are 2 of them....  Palisades is a single unit, but it has a contract to sell its electricity to 2022.

If it were an 'Entergy' issue, then Kewaunee and SONGS and a few others wouldn't be on the list.  What you do see though, is when Entergy bought those units, it made $ sense with $4.50/gal gas, and now it doesn't with $1.70/gal gas.

So many of us non-liberals like to say 'let the market speak'... well, it has spoken.

I'm conflicted between wanting low energy prices, and wanting them to be high enough for nuclear to make $ sense.

I agree, the only thing keeping IP open for business is the second unit. I'm not sure how much longer that will save their skin. I'd bet that Palisades is on the short list and won't be surprised when the news release comes out on it's shutdown date.

Kewaunee is the only odd one. It is obvious why SONGS shut down and has been discussed multiple times and falls in that same group as the debacle that was/is Crystal River.
Title: Re: FitzPatrick joins Pilgrim and VY
Post by: OldHP on Feb 26, 2016, 01:03
  At the site I currently work at, security is 25% of the total work force.  That is a lot.  I had no idea it was that large. 

My first venture into a NPP (NY/NE joint chapter HPS at IP-1) in the 60's, security was about 8 people (one on shift at all times), Ops was biggest (generally a SRO an, RO and 2 Ops per shift), thus 20 to 24).  In the early 70's security wasn't many more (built to two a shift).  Mid - Late 70's airport type security, but still less than 10%.

Post TMI the explosion in number of Techs needed for operations and outages (thanks INPO).  In the 80's I'd have 120 on site during an outage (partly because of the OT limit).

Then - 9/11 happens - and someone said, "what if they had targeted a Nuclear Power Plant", (OMG - INPO, NRC, etc.).  Currently, 25 to 30 percent of an operating plant staff just happens to be security!  What have we come to?  OH is eating plants alive!

  JMHO [SadPanda] :old:
Title: Re: FitzPatrick joins Pilgrim and VY
Post by: Bonds 25 on Feb 26, 2016, 09:00

Then - 9/11 happens - and someone said, "what if they had targeted a Nuclear Power Plant", (OMG - INPO, NRC, etc.)

  JMHO [SadPanda] :old:

Then it would have saved thousands of lives!! Also, how can massively increasing your Security headcount at a Nuke Plant stop madmen from hijacking a plane and smashing it into containment? Terrorists are much smarter than that......which is why they chose Skyscrapers. Are there ridiculous amounts of razor ribbon and hundreds of Security Guards at all these Skyscrapers now?

Security now being the largest department at a Nuclear Power Plant because of 9/11 is......how can I say this.....pretty G***amn dumb.

Modified for language
Title: Re: FitzPatrick joins Pilgrim and VY
Post by: OldHP on Feb 27, 2016, 01:18
1. Then it would have saved thousands of lives!!
2. Also, how can massively increasing your Security headcount at a Nuke Plant stop madmen from hijacking a plane and smashing it into containment?
3. Are there ridiculous amounts of razor ribbon and hundreds of Security Guards at all these Skyscrapers now?
4. Security now being the largest department at a Nuclear Power Plant because of 9/11 is......how can I say this.....pretty G***amn dumb.
Modified for language 

Totally Agree:
1. All the lives in NY and on the planes!
2. Tell Me, oh INPO and NRC how this happens!
3. Probably less, because the owners/operators understand ground security couldn't have prevented it!
4. True, but I'd probably call it pretty F*****G dumb, a word I don't like and don't use very often.

 :old: [beer] [pillow]

Title: Re: FitzPatrick joins Pilgrim and VY
Post by: Rennhack on Apr 14, 2016, 06:34
Fitz gets it firm date. Pilgrim will get its date soon. 
Pilgrim "No Later than June 1, 2019"

Pilgrim May 31, 2019

nuclearstreet.com/nuclear_power_industry_news/b/nuclear_power_news/archive/2016/04/14/entergy-says-it-will-refuel-pilgrim-npp-once-more-041401
Title: Re: Nuclear Plant's Closing
Post by: Rennhack on Jun 05, 2016, 03:14
I changed the title of this thread, and added the latest closures to the original post.
Title: Re: Nuclear Plants Closing
Post by: Brett LaVigne on Jun 09, 2016, 04:38
several more years to go,...

perhaps you heard the funding is pretty much done,... :-\
All of the significantly contaminated systems are gone. There will be work there for years to come, but mostly for the local hires. Twas the best job I ever had...
Title: Re: Nuclear Plants Closing
Post by: chuckdhuff on Jun 21, 2016, 01:37
Looks like it's time to add Diablo Canyon to the list for 2025.
Title: Re: Nuclear Plants Closing
Post by: doctorbill on Jun 26, 2016, 10:24
Fermi 1 is back in SAFSTOR
Title: Re: Nuclear Plants Closing
Post by: GLW on Jul 20, 2016, 10:58

......when nuclear loses it's economy of scale, it no longer makes sense as a commercial business venture,...

perhaps some viability if run as a public benefit corporation,...

but, there you go,... [coffee]

New York (six months later),...

once upon a time in the "business" of operating nukes under the NYPA as public benefit corporations,...

divested to the private sector a dozen plus years ago to shed the "nuclear liabilities" from the backs of the New York taxpayer:

http://www.world-nuclear.org/information-library/country-profiles/countries-t-z/appendices/nuclear-power-in-the-usa-appendix-2-power-plant-pu.aspx (http://www.world-nuclear.org/information-library/country-profiles/countries-t-z/appendices/nuclear-power-in-the-usa-appendix-2-power-plant-pu.aspx)

Power Plant Purchases

In mid-1999, the 670 MWe Pilgrim plant was sold to Entergy by Boston Edison for $14 million plus $67 million for fuel.AmerGen, the joint venture of British Energy and PECO Energy (now Exelon), completed its purchase of the 930 MWe Clinton nuclear plant and the 790 MWe Three Mile Island plant at the end of 1999. However, its plan to acquire control of the two-unit Nine Mile Point nuclear power station (614 & 1140 MWe) was derailed by a minor shareholder exercising its veto. Constellation later bid successfully for the units.In 1999, AmerGen won the Boldest Successful Investment Decision award from the Financial Times. AmerGen was cited as "a huge success ... with expected strong financial returns" and "a bold investment which has created new confidence in the US nuclear industry."In March 2000, Entergy Corporation reached agreement to buy the New York Power Authority's (NYPA) Indian Point 3 (965 MWe) and Fitzpatrick (778 MWe) nuclear power plants for $967 million, topping a bid by Dominion Resources. The complexity of the transaction is indicated by the terms that included $636 million for the two mid-1970s units, nearly $171 million for the fuel, $92 million to reduce NYPA's decommissioning obligation, and other amounts related to power purchase. There are also provisions for further payments if licences for the 25 year old plants are extended. NYPA retains the $630 million decommissioning funds and pay them when required, while Entergy accepts the $250 million risk of any adverse tax ruling on these. Up to 500 MWe of the combined output is available to NYPA at 2.9 cents/kWh, the remainder at 3.2 or 3.6 cents/kWh. The sale closed in November 2000......

_____________________________ _____________________________ _____________________________ _____________

what was old is new again, welcome to the rebirth of the public benefit nuclear power plant paradigm:

Cuomo nuclear plan blunts criticism by combining with renewables

http://www.politico.com/states/new-york/albany/story/2016/07/cuomo-nuclear-plan-blunts-criticism-by-combining-it-with-renewables-103962 (http://www.politico.com/states/new-york/albany/story/2016/07/cuomo-nuclear-plan-blunts-criticism-by-combining-it-with-renewables-103962)

....As a political maneuver, the plan yielded little public criticism because it combined two different energy sources and an upstate job protection program. There was mostly public support for the plan even though monthly utility bills will now increase by about $2 a month as residents across the state pay energy giant Exelon above-market rates for the nuclear energy produced at the four upstate reactors.
Billions of dollars, perhaps more than $8 billion, will go to nuclear reactors, according to some estimates. Major environmental groups that worked to close California’s last nuclear reactor a few weeks ago were silent, including some that told POLITICO New York on background that they could not oppose a plan that gave unprecedented support to clean energy. The deal means New York is among the first states to put a price on carbon, to enact a policy that recognizes the social cost of fossil fuels, such as their role in creating climate change. It also recognizes nuclear as a power source that should be propped up by the state if it can’t survive on the open market. Nuclear facilities across the country are struggling to compete against cheap natural gas, which has driven down power prices.Under the plan, the four reactors in upstate New York will receive $1 billion in ratepayer subsidies in the next two years, and billions more after that.....
Title: Re: Nuclear Plants Closing
Post by: GLW on Jul 20, 2016, 11:06

....I haven't been impressed with the Entergy Model in recent years, just my opinion.


It makes money and sheds money pits, seems to be a pretty capable business model,...
Title: Re: Nuclear Plants Closing
Post by: chuckdhuff on Jul 20, 2016, 12:21
It makes money and sheds money pits, seems to be a pretty capable business model,...



Current Plants in Regulatory Column 4
Pilgram
ANO1
ANO2


Rest of the Entergy Fleet:
Fitz
IP - Unit 3 in Column 2
Palisades
Grand Gulf
River Bend - Column 2
Waterford
Cooper


45% having issues, 27% in Column 4


Just saying.....

http://www.nrc.gov/NRR/OVERSIGHT/ASSESS/actionmatrix_summary.html#topofpage (http://www.nrc.gov/NRR/OVERSIGHT/ASSESS/actionmatrix_summary.html#topofpage)
Title: Re: Nuclear Plants Closing
Post by: GLW on Jul 20, 2016, 01:57

Current Plants in Regulatory Column 4
Pilgram
ANO1
ANO2


Rest of the Entergy Fleet:
Fitz
IP - Unit 3 in Column 2
Palisades
Grand Gulf
River Bend - Column 2
Waterford
Cooper


45% having issues, 27% in Column 4


Just saying.....

http://www.nrc.gov/NRR/OVERSIGHT/ASSESS/actionmatrix_summary.html#topofpage (http://www.nrc.gov/NRR/OVERSIGHT/ASSESS/actionmatrix_summary.html#topofpage)

we're parsing,...

you're focused on exemplary regulatory ratings,...

the regulatory ratings are sufficient to stay in business,...

the "business" is turning a profit where a profit can be made, and shedding losses where losses are projected or are being realized,...

the "company" is not a nuclear power plant company, it is a company which owns some nuclear power plants,...

the company is doing okay to fine, the nuke plants not so much, by the regulatory metric you reference... 8)
Title: Re: Nuclear Plants Closing
Post by: chuckdhuff on Jul 20, 2016, 02:59
we're parsing,...

you're focused on exemplary regulatory ratings,...

the regulatory ratings are sufficient to stay in business,...

the "business" is turning a profit where a profit can be made, and shedding losses where losses are projected or are being realized,...

the "company" is not a nuclear power plant company, it is a company which owns some nuclear power plants,...

the company is doing okay to fine, the nuke plants not so much, by the regulatory metric you reference... 8)


I can agree with those statements. My original post which you partially quoted was in reference to my humble opinion of how the plants appear to be ran. If I was buying stock in an energy company, they would definitely be in the conversation based on current share values and dividend yields. 


Of course, not all that long ago there was talk of how great NRG was doing and look at it now....
Title: Re: Nuclear Plants Closing
Post by: GLW on Jul 20, 2016, 03:46

I can agree with those statements....



also keeping in mind that the plants you listed are also divided between multiple concerns within Entergy....

Entergy Utility Owned:

ANO 1 &2
Grand Gulf
River Bend
Waterford 3


Entergy Wholesale Commodities Owned:

Fitz
Pilgrim
IP
Palisades


Entergy Wholesale Commodities Management Services:


Cooper

plus the offline outlier,

ENVY:


VY





there's a lot more than a soundbite involved with all this stuff,.... :-\
Title: Re: Nuclear Plants Closing
Post by: chuckdhuff on Jan 10, 2017, 02:23
I changed the title of this thread, and added the latest closures to the original post.


After the stay of execution's that have been passed in NY and IL, probably time to pull Fitz, QC, and Clinton off the list in the OP?
Title: Re: Nuclear Plants Closing
Post by: Red Gold on Jan 11, 2017, 12:09
I note that every plant in GLW's list owned by Entergy Wholesale Commodities has either been sold or is slated for closure.
Title: Re: Nuclear Plants Closing
Post by: chuckdhuff on Jan 11, 2017, 09:20
That is correct. They must have decided they are done with the Yanks.
Title: Re: Nuclear Plants Closing
Post by: GLW on Jan 11, 2017, 11:01
That is correct. They must have decided they are done with the Yanks.

seems that way,.....


............................. .......

plus, it's Entergy, and the loozeeanna boys seem predisposed to play hardball when it comes to Yankeez, IIRC, the company is structured to facilitate that disposition towards things west of the Pecos and north of the M-D line,...

now, the zero emissions credits are a bit of a surprise, too late for Kewaunee and VY, perhaps not too late for Ft. Calhoun as they are not past the point of no return just yet,....

yup, pert much,.........
Title: Re: Nuclear Plants Closing
Post by: scotoma on Jan 12, 2017, 04:28
Get out of the nuclear wholesale market any way you can. The power purchase agreements are only a stopgap.
Title: Re: Nuclear Plants Closing
Post by: SloGlo on Jan 12, 2017, 10:51
woo sayed the war between the states was over..  👀
Title: Re: Nuclear Plants Closing
Post by: Rennhack on Jan 15, 2017, 05:30
After the stay of execution's that have been passed in NY and IL, probably time to pull Fitz, QC, and Clinton off the list in the OP?

Done.