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Title: Virgin Lead Count Room Shields
Post by: Redrock809 on Jul 15, 2015, 08:57
I have the 6 original detector shields from Shoreham Nuclear Plant in storage in Texas. Each weighing approximately 2000 lbs.

Can anyone direct me to an interested purchaser and/or idea of their current value?

Thanks
Title: Re: Virgin Lead Count Room Shields
Post by: GLW on Jul 15, 2015, 09:41
approx. 6k,...

you need pedigree for more than scrap value,...
Title: Re: Virgin Lead Count Room Shields
Post by: Marlin on Jul 16, 2015, 12:07
I have the 6 original detector shields from Shoreham Nuclear Plant in storage in Texas. Each weighing approximately 2000 lbs.

Can anyone direct me to an interested purchaser and/or idea of their current value?

Thanks
approx. 6k,...

you need pedigree for more than scrap value,...

Very True I had ten tons of battleship pre WWII steel but could not find the paper path. Made it just plain scrap metal even though it had been used as walls of a body count vault at a DOE site for many years.
Title: Re: Virgin Lead Count Room Shields
Post by: Marlin on Jul 16, 2015, 12:10
I have the 6 original detector shields from Shoreham Nuclear Plant in storage in Texas. Each weighing approximately 2000 lbs.

Can anyone direct me to an interested purchaser and/or idea of their current value?

Thanks

Copper, cadmium, lead?
Title: Re: Virgin Lead Count Room Shields
Post by: GLW on Jul 16, 2015, 05:37
Copper, cadmium, lead?

if it ain't "pure", i.e. laminated, mixture, alloy, et al,...

6K is the best price,... the OP will probably get less,...

hopefully the OP has not been paying storage fees since 1993,... :P ;) :) 8)

(http://alpinestorage.com/clients/17242/images/self-storage-coupon-code.jpg)

Title: Re: Virgin Lead Count Room Shields
Post by: Marlin on Jul 16, 2015, 11:08
if it ain't "pure", i.e. laminated, mixture, alloy, et al,...

6K is the best price,... the OP will probably get less,...

hopefully the OP has not been paying storage fees since 1993,... :P ;) :) 8)

(http://alpinestorage.com/clients/17242/images/self-storage-coupon-code.jpg)

Was thinking in terms of a detector shields for gamma spec. Each layer would be clean not that lead would bring much with declining scrap demand from the Pacific rim.
Title: Re: Virgin Lead Count Room Shields
Post by: GLW on Jul 16, 2015, 11:17
Was thinking in terms of a detector shields for gamma spec. Each layer would be clean not that lead would bring much with declining scrap demand from the Pacific rim.

lead brings between 0.40 and 0.50 per pound, scrappers define pure as lead only, if the. lead is out here in the general public the assumption is it is rad clean,....

so, in most places outside our language arena, contaminated lead would be lead with any other materials embedded or laminated within or glued to it OR lead alloy at some percentage percentage,....

processing takes time, time is money,....

the meme of the day it would seem,..... 8)
Title: Re: Virgin Lead Count Room Shields
Post by: Marlin on Jul 16, 2015, 11:29
lead brings between 0.40 and 0.50 per pound, scrappers define pure as lead only, if the. lead is out here in the general public the assumption is it is rad clean,....

so, in most places outside our language arena, contaminated lead would be lead with any other materials embedded or laminated within or glued to it OR lead alloy at some percentage percentage,....

processing takes time, time is money,....

the meme of the day it would seem,..... 8)

   Quote sounds right I did a little research on this for a submarine battery recently. Lead was 0.50 and the brass bus bar 2.50. Reuse looked like the best bet after removal in the yard.  Finding a buyer for reuse would not be an easy option for the OP even if the shields are intact, scrap is the probable avenue.
Title: Re: Virgin Lead Count Room Shields
Post by: SloGlo on Jul 17, 2015, 04:09

processing takes time, time is money,....

process into bullets two maximize profit.  ;)
Title: Re: Virgin Lead Count Room Shields
Post by: Marlin on Jul 17, 2015, 05:32
process into bullets two maximize profit.  ;)

 ;)

   I have seen salvage lead disappear a few times for just that purpose. I did not mind so much when I knew it was radiologically cleared and I knew where it went. I had one pallet disappear overnight on one site with no clue where it went. The customer did not seem to mind so neither did I as it was inside the PIDAS and would need survey for release from site.
Title: Re: Virgin Lead Count Room Shields
Post by: Rennhack on Jul 17, 2015, 06:08
   I have seen salvage lead disappear a few times for just that purpose. I did not mind so much when I knew it was radiologically cleared and I knew where it went. I had one pallet disappear overnight on one site with no clue where it went. The customer did not seem to mind so neither did I as it was inside the PIDAS and would need survey for release from site.

The next day, a laborer came to work with one arm longer than the other, and a broken handle on his lunch box.
Title: Re: Virgin Lead Count Room Shields
Post by: Marlin on Jul 17, 2015, 06:17
The next day, a laborer came to work with one arm longer than the other, and a broken handle on his lunch box.


So you figure he got a pallet of lead into a lunch box.

 [sarcasm]
Title: Re: Virgin Lead Count Room Shields
Post by: GLW on Jul 17, 2015, 07:39

So you figure he got a pallet of lead into a lunch box.

 [sarcasm]

"Why yes!!, that IS my lunch box, I am a diabetic and I must eat many small meals through the day, why do you ask?,... I am feeling uncomfortable and oppressed officer."

                                     (http://i21.geccdn.net/site/images/n-picgroup/60002.jpg)
Title: Re: Virgin Lead Count Room Shields
Post by: HydroDave63 on Jul 17, 2015, 08:51
Or (theoretically) bring a small melting pot, and recast into buckshot on the night shift...

(http://www.barlowstackle.com/Assets/ProductImages/Molds/453016.jpg)
Title: Re: Virgin Lead Count Room Shields
Post by: Marlin on Jul 17, 2015, 08:54
Or (theoretically) bring a small melting pot, and recast into buckshot on the night shift...

(http://www.barlowstackle.com/Assets/ProductImages/Molds/453016.jpg)

I suspect on many DOE sites this can be found on the grounds. The Fred Flinstone lunch box would not be required.  ;)
Title: Re: Virgin Lead Count Room Shields
Post by: SloGlo on Jul 20, 2015, 09:42
Or (theoretically) bring a small melting pot, and recast into buckshot on the night shift...

freaking buckshot? weigh two much time n labor.... pour fore 7.92, 223 etc.
Title: Re: Virgin Lead Count Room Shields
Post by: Rennhack on Jul 20, 2015, 06:14
freaking buckshot? weigh two much time n labor.... pour fore 7.92, 223 etc.

They get paid by the hour...
Title: Re: Virgin Lead Count Room Shields
Post by: SloGlo on Jul 20, 2015, 09:43
They get paid by the hour...
sew, iffen the time n labor are the same fore the pore, eye yam betting a pound of 7.92, 223, .30, .45, .50 bring moor bucks than an el bee of buckshot. hail, aye think split shot sinkers are worth north of buckshot.
Title: Re: Virgin Lead Count Room Shields
Post by: HydroDave63 on Jul 20, 2015, 10:50
sew, iffen the time n labor are the same fore the pore, eye yam betting a pound of 7.92, 223, .30, .45, .50 bring moor bucks than an el bee of buckshot. hail, aye think split shot sinkers are worth north of buckshot.

1) Virtually no one nowadays shoots those loads in a cast lead hardball due to fouling. Shoot 50 BMG with non-jacketed lead slugs, you'd be scrubbing the barrel for days.

2) Trimming the bullets, lubing the molds, etc...time consuming.

3) You can cast 18 #00s in less time than a dual pistol bullet mold.

(https://images.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fts4.mm.bing.net%2Fth%3Fid%3DJN.zS0V7oLGqbTaXIijfJhyWw%26pid%3D15.1&f=1)
Title: Re: Virgin Lead Count Room Shields
Post by: Rennhack on Jul 21, 2015, 12:31
1) Virtually no one nowadays shoots those loads in a cast lead hardball due to fouling. Shoot 50 BMG with non-jacketed lead slugs, you'd be scrubbing the barrel for days.

2) Trimming the bullets, lubing the molds, etc...time consuming.

3) You can cast 18 #00s in less time than a dual pistol bullet mold.

(https://images.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fts4.mm.bing.net%2Fth%3Fid%3DJN.zS0V7oLGqbTaXIijfJhyWw%26pid%3D15.1&f=1)

When the zombies come, I want you on my side.
Title: Re: Virgin Lead Count Room Shields
Post by: SloGlo on Jul 21, 2015, 04:55
1) Virtually no one nowadays shoots those loads in a cast lead hardball due to fouling. Shoot 50 BMG with non-jacketed lead slugs, you'd be scrubbing the barrel for days.

2) Trimming the bullets, lubing the molds, etc...time consuming.

3) You can cast 18 #00s in less time than a dual pistol bullet mold.

re:
#1... use high test gas two clean the barrel n sell the by product to muscle car buffs wanting leaded fuel
#2&3... refer two reply #16.