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Title: Nuke Test Help
Post by: gman82 on Feb 11, 2008, 11:42
For those of you out there that recently took the nuke test, can you offer any advice on study material or what I can expect? I'm curious as to how long it is, what kind of questions, if it's similar to to ASVAB? Thanks for your input... ;D
Title: Re: Nuke Test Help
Post by: taterhead on Feb 12, 2008, 08:44
Man, I am glad that question wasn't on my nuke test...

Maybe it was on the POSS, though... :P
Title: Re: Nuke Test Help
Post by: Turtleberry on Feb 12, 2008, 10:03
I dont suppose that is a real sample question?

Certainly gravity acts the same on both bullets, but that question isn't a matter of the force of gravity, but if the bullet fired from the gun has a horizontal force, they wouldn't hit the ground at the same time.  ???
Title: Re: Nuke Test Help
Post by: ddklbl on Feb 12, 2008, 10:27
Quote from: Turtleberry on Feb 12, 2008, 10:03
I dont suppose that is a real sample question?

Certainly gravity acts the same on both bullets, but that question isn't a matter of the force of gravity, but if the bullet fired from the gun has a horizontal force, they wouldn't hit the ground at the same time.  ???

Yes.  Yes they would. 

From what I remember of that test, it was a lot of general HS physics type questions like HC's example.  A series of cogs: if cog A rotates clockwise, which direction do cogs C, D, E rotate?  Camshaft and cams of different shapes, which would lift it's valve first. Just simple spacial/mechanical concepts that shouldn't be too dificult.  Of course, I may be mindmashing the ASVAB.
Title: Re: Nuke Test Help
Post by: taterhead on Feb 12, 2008, 10:48
Yeah, I think you are.  That sounds just like the ASVAB.

The NFQT is more Algebra/Physics/Chem I think. 

Short answer to the initial poster...get in touch with the Nuke Recruiter and ask him.
Title: Re: Nuke Test Help
Post by: Moonquille on Feb 13, 2008, 06:37
QuoteQ.1  A bullet is fired from a gun at the same moment a bullet (of exact weight) is dropped from muzzle height.  Which bullet hits the ground first?

A.1 
a)  The bullet fired from the gun.
b)  The bullet dropped from muzzle height.
c)  Both impact the ground at the same time.

Gonna have to respectfully disagree that the answer is C.

The answer C assumes a lot.

It assumes that the conditions were in a vacuum, that the shot was fired horizontizally, that the ground does not dip for rise.

On second thought, the test probably says choose the best answer, not choose the right answer.  Guess I'll have to withdraw my disagreement.  (but leave my answer up there to show how intelligent I am)

McBride, are you sending me flowers for V-Day?
Title: Re: Nuke Test Help
Post by: Wanna Know Mom on Feb 13, 2008, 08:35
The answer is....the one traveling faster is gonna hurt more.......See you all at captain's mast for discussing top secret info on a public forum! LOL.  Brings me to a tangential thought. My son (in Nuke school) says a student went to captains mast for text messaging in the Rickover building (now, that was stupid!) and was discharged from the Navy. ...Wouldn't he just have been denuked and sent to the fleet?  Perhaps they were all told he was discharged to set an example???
Title: Re: Nuke Test Help
Post by: Wanna Know Mom on Feb 13, 2008, 09:09
yes, my mistake.....removed from the pipeline, not denuked. :)
Title: Re: Nuke Test Help
Post by: McBride on Feb 13, 2008, 10:02
Quote from: Moonquille on Feb 13, 2008, 06:37
McBride, are you sending me flowers for V-Day?

But of course, my love!

(http://affordable-flowers.com/catalog/images/Resize%20of%2012%20red%20roses%20medium%20stems.jpg)
Title: Re: Nuke Test Help
Post by: McBride on Feb 13, 2008, 12:34
You like that?  Nice to know.  I actually drew this one myself and scanned it..  I call it 'Who Nuked My Cheese?'  After all, I am about to become a House Mouse, so . . . .
Title: Re: Nuke Test Help
Post by: gman82 on Feb 19, 2008, 11:18
Thanks for your help guys and gals, I scored a 73...whatever that means   ;)
Title: Re: Nuke Test Help
Post by: dewf on Feb 20, 2008, 08:09
Quote from: HoneyComb on Feb 20, 2008, 11:28
Congrats.

I think they use a combo system these days.  Combo ASVAB (you might not have to take the NFQT in today's system) with NFQT scores.  If the Combo of scores makes the grade your in like Flynn.

Your Recruiter will tell you if your RAW Numbers/Scores are competitive.

i aced the asvab and didn't have to take the nfqt. if your nuclear line score (y) is higher than the minimum to qualify for nuke (x) you don't have to take the nfqt (banana)     

     y > x != banana. :-D


Quote from: Moonquille on Feb 13, 2008, 06:37
Gonna have to respectfully disagree that the answer is C.

The answer C assumes a lot.

the answer C is straight out of high school physics. gravity reacts on every object equally. wind resistance doesn't count.
Title: Re: Nuke Test Help
Post by: McBride on Feb 21, 2008, 09:36
Quote from: dewf on Feb 20, 2008, 08:09
wind resistance doesn't count.

Correction:
Wind resistance is negligible in most cases.  If it were not, then parachutes would be worthless.

On Apollo 15, Commander Scott demonstrated this by dropping a tool and a feather at the same time.  They hit the moon's surface together, because there was no wind Resistance.  On earth, it would have been completely different.

The correct answer to the question is:

E.  I can't swim in pancake batter on Easter Sunday.
Title: Re: Nuke Test Help
Post by: dewf on Feb 21, 2008, 11:50
Quote from: McBride on Feb 21, 2008, 09:36
Correction:
Wind resistance is negligible in most cases.  If it were not, then parachutes would be worthless.

On Apollo 15, Commander Scott demonstrated this by dropping a tool and a feather at the same time.  They hit the moon's surface together, because there was no wind Resistance.  On earth, it would have been completely different.

The correct answer to the question is:

E.  I can't swim in pancake batter on Easter Sunday.

for all practical applications of asvab/nfqts... would it be safe to agree that unless specified to (or pertaining to pancake batter or parachutes), wind resistance should not be considered?


AND! I CAN swim in pancake batter on Easter Sunday... so...


F. bananas are sometimes delicious and i have a bellybutton.
Title: Re: Nuke Test Help
Post by: Loffy Muffin on Feb 21, 2008, 05:06
Making allot of assumptions to answer a simple question?  That is part of the test.  Whether you can gage what is needed to answer the question is a skill.  I mean, they didn't tell the air density, surface finish, and muzzle velocity.  What about the topography?  The gravitational pull over water is different then over land, right?  the bullet could go from land to over water.  Lunar cycle?  Need the Reynolds number to calculate the possible lift.  What if the muzzle velocity puts the bullet in geosynchronous orbit?  It would never land!  What if the bullet approached the speed of light and time slowed?  What about the initial velocities of both bullets?  Assume it is zero? 
Geeeez nukes. 
Here is a secret.  That test is only there to make you feel special because you took (or got waived) a special test.  That supports the recruiting scam of playing to suckers sense of specialness. A special person takes a special test. 

If they really wanted to see how good of a nuke you would be they would put you in a room and see if you could find the "hidden dirt" to clean up.
Title: Re: Nuke Test Help
Post by: taterhead on Feb 21, 2008, 05:20
Quote from: Loffy Muffin on Feb 21, 2008, 05:06


If they really wanted to see how good of a nuke you would be they would put you in a room and see if you could find the "hidden dirt" to clean up.


realness.  I never got close to anything as complicated as that word problem starting up a turbine generator.
Title: Re: Nuke Test Help
Post by: mlslstephens on Feb 21, 2008, 06:04
Quote from: Loffy Muffin on Feb 21, 2008, 05:06
Making allot of assumptions to answer a simple question?  That is part of the test.  Whether you can gage what is needed to answer the question is a skill. 

LM,
You are right on the mark with this comment.  So with that, I will ask the forum one of the questions asked of me at my Nuclear Officer interview.  Here is the question? 

How much force is necessary of a tractor beam from the Starship Enterprise to stop Luke Skywalker's X-wing fighter?
Title: Re: Nuke Test Help
Post by: taterhead on Feb 21, 2008, 06:45
Quote from: NaVLI4 on Feb 21, 2008, 06:04


How much force is necessary of a tractor beam from the Starship Enterprise to stop Luke Skywalker's X-wing fighter?

That sounds a bit like asking whether or not Barney Fife will ever catch those Duke boys!
Title: Re: Nuke Test Help
Post by: sfrederick on Feb 22, 2008, 02:51
Quote from: Squirrel Master on Feb 11, 2008, 11:42
For those of you out there that recently took the nuke test, can you offer any advice on study material or what I can expect? I'm curious as to how long it is, what kind of questions, if it's similar to to ASVAB? Thanks for your input... ;D

Easy test.  The mathematics are no more complicated than being able to solve for X, perform multiplication and division without a calculator.  There are a few science questions.  One that I recall are two beakers of water, one upside down, with a dot in each one, and deciding which point is experiencing higher pressure.
I studied, though it didn't help me because it was easier than I expected, and got a 75/80.  This was in August/07.