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Career Path => Radiation Safety => Topic started by: tntplayer on Oct 11, 2010, 10:44

Title: Response Checks for Portable Instruments
Post by: tntplayer on Oct 11, 2010, 10:44
Is there an ANSI standard, reg guide, etc. that delineates the standard practice for performing routine response checks on portable radiation detection instrumentation?  Specifically, what are the rules regarding checking the instrument on various scales?
Title: Re: Response Checks for Portable Instruments
Post by: etm on Oct 11, 2010, 01:37
Haven't read the document in a while, but I would start with ANSI N323 -- "Radiation Protection Instrumentation Test and Calibration."

Know there has been a lot of resistance to adopt ANSI N42.17A, "Performance Specifications for Health Physics Instrumentation - Portable Instruments for Use in Normal Environmental Conditions," American National Standards Institute,
1989.  Not sure if this addresses calibration and instrument operability checks.
Title: Re: Response Checks for Portable Instruments
Post by: Jonesmp on Oct 14, 2011, 01:02
at Kansas State University we recently dealt with this.  We calibrated with Cs-135, but Kansas regulations changed to require Tc-99 and another isotope I am drawing a blank on right now, as well as energy error in calibration.  We quit doing detector calibrations because the extra requirements weren't worth what we charged.  As far as a "response check" by definition, all you need is a response, not a quantitative value.  If you have a source for an instrument, it's safe to assume it's calibrated with that source (generally CS-135) so if you know what the source is, you can figure the dose pretty quick. 

Internal sources are kind of hit and miss.  If the instrument has cal based on the check source reading, It's only calibrated to that isotope.  If the detector reads in REM, it has to be calibrated to at least 3 sources of different energies. 

Generally for portable units with pancake probes, you don't give "much of a concern" when it comes to energy, you're looking for total counts.  "friskers" don't care what energy it is, if it clicks, it's there.  CS-135 is used because it's a relativly mid range energy decay for a long half life isotope.  Friskers only tell you if there is something there, not what it is.  If you're frisking trash and you get high counts on everything you don't know if it's natural radon or real contamination unless you scan each item individually.  If something is "hot" you don't know what it is with a pancake probe. 

The way we scan trash at K-State is a "rough" frisk with a pancake probe.  It's time consuming because we scan everything in a trash can.  if it's over 100 over background we don't pass it.  after that, we use a germanium detector to ensure the isotopes we release are below the limits.  At our facility we do not release anything less than 1/10 the limit. 
Title: Re: Response Checks for Portable Instruments
Post by: spikeree on Dec 01, 2011, 12:36
Quote from: etm on Oct 11, 2010, 01:37
Haven't read the document in a while, but I would start with ANSI N323 -- "Radiation Protection Instrumentation Test and Calibration."

Know there has been a lot of resistance to adopt ANSI N42.17A, "Performance Specifications for Health Physics Instrumentation - Portable Instruments for Use in Normal Environmental Conditions," American National Standards Institute,
1989.  Not sure if this addresses calibration and instrument operability checks.