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Title: Obama Takes on Coal With First-Ever Carbon Limits
Post by: Ksheed on Sep 20, 2013, 02:11
"Linking global warming to public health, disease and extreme weather, the Obama administration pressed ahead Friday with tough requirements to limit carbon pollution from new power plants, despite protests from industry and from Republicans that it would mean a dim future for coal."

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory/obama-takes-coal-carbon-limits-20313553 (http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory/obama-takes-coal-carbon-limits-20313553)
Title: Re: Obama Takes on Coal With First-Ever Carbon Limits
Post by: Marlin on Sep 20, 2013, 03:51
Quote from: ksheed12 on Sep 20, 2013, 02:11
"Linking global warming to public health, disease and extreme weather, the Obama administration pressed ahead Friday with tough requirements to limit carbon pollution from new power plants, despite protests from industry and from Republicans that it would mean a dim future for coal."

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory/obama-takes-coal-carbon-limits-20313553 (http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory/obama-takes-coal-carbon-limits-20313553)

   The good green EPA versus the evil energy industry and their elected government lap dogs.  ::) The discussion may change after the 27th when the IPCC publishes their newest report. I am sure the song will be the same but the data will not support them and hopefully we will really get a dialogue about CO2 and it's affect on temperature rise. I believe that from what I am hearing they will have to admit that the models they have used are wrong.
Title: Re: Obama Takes on Coal With First-Ever Carbon Limits
Post by: Marlin on Sep 20, 2013, 04:15
   MSM and progressives (but I repeat myself) still tout their climate change beliefs. This writer puts it in Real Clear terms. (Pun Intended)

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2013/09/19/climate_change_ice-capped_119998.html
Title: Re: Obama Takes on Coal With First-Ever Carbon Limits
Post by: Ksheed on Sep 20, 2013, 04:34
Quote from: Marlin on Sep 20, 2013, 03:51
   The good green EPA versus the evil energy industry and their elected government lap dogs.  ::) The discussion may change after the 27th when the IPCC publishes their newest report. I am sure the song will be the same but the data will not support them and hopefully we will really get a dialogue about CO2 and it's affect on temperature rise. I believe that from what I am hearing they will have to admit that the models they have used are wrong.

Perhaps that is why they are turning to the supposed health risks associated with coal plants as their reasoning for shutting down the industry.  [2cents]

As always no solution to energy needs, just more about what we need to stop using. It's like quitting your job before you have a new one lined out.
Title: Re: Obama Takes on Coal With First-Ever Carbon Limits
Post by: Marlin on Sep 20, 2013, 05:33
Quote from: ksheed12 on Sep 20, 2013, 04:34
Perhaps that is why they are turning to the supposed health risks associated with coal plants as their reasoning for shutting down the industry.  [2cents]

Coal plants are not without risk they are the largest contributor of mercury emissions in the US. Most of it is from a fraction of older plants. We don't build new coal plants because of a very debatable hazard of CO2 while older mercury spewing plants are left on line to maintain power to the grid that solar and wind are not capable of providing.

[bad mood]


[coffee]
Title: Re: Obama Takes on Coal With First-Ever Carbon Limits
Post by: SloGlo on Sep 23, 2013, 09:47
Quote from: Marlin on Sep 20, 2013, 05:33
Coal plants are not without risk they are the largest contributor of mercury emissions in the US. Most of it is from a fraction of older plants. We don't build new coal plants because of a very debatable hazard of CO2 while older mercury spewing plants are left on line to maintain power to the grid that solar and wind are not capable of providing.
life is not without risk. why wood the feds take a sizeable portion of the power grid offline without first enticing new power production to replace it it the current demand market and in two morrows grater demand market place?   
Title: Re: Obama Takes on Coal With First-Ever Carbon Limits
Post by: Marlin on Sep 23, 2013, 11:40
Quote from: SloGlo on Sep 23, 2013, 09:47
life is not without risk. why wood the feds take a sizeable portion of the power grid offline without first enticing new power production to replace it it the current demand market and in two morrows grater demand market place?   

They are taking new power off the grid with meaningless CO2 regulations.
Title: Re: Obama Takes on Coal With First-Ever Carbon Limits
Post by: GLW on Sep 23, 2013, 12:19
Quote from: Marlin on Sep 23, 2013, 11:40
They are taking new power off the grid with meaningless CO2 regulations.

Quote from: SloGlo on Sep 23, 2013, 09:47
life is not without risk. why wood the feds take a sizeable portion of the power grid offline without first enticing new power production to replace it it the current demand market and in two morrows grater demand market place?   

Quote from: ksheed12 on Sep 20, 2013, 04:34
Perhaps that is why they are turning to the supposed health risks associated with coal plants as their reasoning for shutting down the industry.  [2cents]

As always no solution to energy needs, just more about what we need to stop using. It's like quitting your job before you have a new one lined out.

It's not like the country was not warned:



Imagine that, a candidate for POTUS who tells you up front he is gonna bone ya,...

and then he does,....

reckon that makes him a promise keeper, or is that bone keeper?!?!?!?  [coffee]
Title: Re: Obama Takes on Coal With First-Ever Carbon Limits
Post by: SloGlo on Sep 24, 2013, 05:00
Quote from: GLW on Sep 23, 2013, 12:19
It's not like the country was not warned:



Imagine that, a candidate for POTUS who tells you up front he is gonna bone ya,...

and then he does,....

reckon that makes him a promise keeper, or is that bone keeper?!?!?!?  [coffee]
makes hymn a bone if eyed keeper.  ;)