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Title: Higgs no longer top boson?
Post by: Marlin on Mar 12, 2016, 06:05
Higgs no longer top boson? Good thing it was a theory not a rule  [devious]

Who ordered that?
An unexpected data signal that could change everything has particle physicists salivating.

http://www.nature.com/news/who-ordered-that-1.19514
Title: Re: Higgs no longer top boson?
Post by: Higgs on Mar 12, 2016, 07:51
Yes I am.
Title: Re: Higgs no longer top boson?
Post by: SloGlo on Mar 13, 2016, 11:04
Quote from: Higgs on Mar 12, 2016, 07:51
Yes I am.
;D
Title: Re: Higgs no longer top boson?
Post by: GLW on Mar 13, 2016, 03:15
Interesting article , not a paradigm shifter for how the vast majority of us make a living,... 8)

And yet, from the same series of journals, an unexpected warning could shift the paradigms of how many of us make a living (with a capital P):

http://www.nature.com/news/statisticians-issue-warning-over-misuse-of-p-values-1.19503?WT.mc_id=SFB_NNEWS_1508_RHBox

Statisticians issue warning over misuse of P values

Policy statement aims to halt missteps in the quest for certainty.

http://www.nature.com/news/statistics-p-values-are-just-the-tip-of-the-iceberg-1.17412

Statistics: P values are just the tip of the iceberg

...The last of these steps is the calculation of an inferential statistic such as a P value, and the application of a 'decision rule' to it (for example, P < 0.05). In practice, decisions that are made earlier in data analysis have a much greater impact on results — from experimental design to batch effects, lack of adjustment for confounding factors, or simple measurement error. Arbitrary levels of statistical significance can be achieved by changing the ways in which data are cleaned, summarized or modelled....

Title: Re: Higgs no longer top boson?
Post by: Marlin on Mar 13, 2016, 03:26
Quote from: GLW on Mar 13, 2016, 03:15
Interesting article , not a paradigm shifter for how the vast majority of us make a living,... 8)

And yet, from the same series of journals, an unexpected warning could shift the paradigms of how many of us make a living (with a capital P):

http://www.nature.com/news/statisticians-issue-warning-over-misuse-of-p-values-1.19503?WT.mc_id=SFB_NNEWS_1508_RHBox

Statisticians issue warning over misuse of P values

Policy statement aims to halt missteps in the quest for certainty.

http://www.nature.com/news/statistics-p-values-are-just-the-tip-of-the-iceberg-1.17412

Statistics: P values are just the tip of the iceberg

...The last of these steps is the calculation of an inferential statistic such as a P value, and the application of a 'decision rule' to it (for example, P < 0.05). In practice, decisions that are made earlier in data analysis have a much greater impact on results — from experimental design to batch effects, lack of adjustment for confounding factors, or simple measurement error. Arbitrary levels of statistical significance can be achieved by changing the ways in which data are cleaned, summarized or modelled....



(http://memecrunch.com/meme/1ERNE/spongebob-buzzkill/image.jpg)
Title: Re: Higgs no longer top boson?
Post by: GLW on Mar 13, 2016, 08:17
Quote from: Marlin on Mar 13, 2016, 03:26
(http://memecrunch.com/meme/1ERNE/spongebob-buzzkill/image.jpg)

because sometimes that back 40 keeps me up at night,... :P ;) :) 8)

(http://monstergirl.files.wordpress.com/2012/10/the-devil-and-daniel-webster-2.jpg?w=490&h=347)
[sarcasm]
Title: Re: Higgs no longer top boson?
Post by: Marlin on Mar 13, 2016, 08:28
Quote from: GLW on Mar 13, 2016, 08:17
because sometimes that back 40 keeps me up at night,... :P ;) :) 8)

(http://monstergirl.files.wordpress.com/2012/10/the-devil-and-daniel-webster-2.jpg?w=490&h=347)
[sarcasm]

The devil is in the details, not enough emoji's.

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