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Title: Making renewable power more viable for the grid
Post by: Marlin on Oct 12, 2017, 01:02

Making renewable power more viable for the grid


http://news.mit.edu/2017/air-breathing-battery-making-renewable-power-more-viable-grid-1011
Title: Re: Making renewable power more viable for the grid
Post by: TVA on Oct 12, 2017, 01:07
Can't be. Ever.
Title: Re: Making renewable power more viable for the grid
Post by: Chimera on Oct 13, 2017, 01:09
One thing that never seems to be brought up in discussions of these supposedly "green" projects is the long-term consequences of the waste products produced - during manufacture, operation, and, eventually, decommissioning.  Fly ash is just as big a problem, long term, as spent fuel.  What do you do with it?  The same questions need to be applied to the byproducts of solar and wind manufacturing, use, and disposal.
Title: Re: Making renewable power more viable for the grid
Post by: Marlin on Oct 13, 2017, 01:35
Quote from: Chimera on Oct 13, 2017, 01:09
One thing that never seems to be brought up in discussions of these supposedly "green" projects is the long-term consequences of the waste products produced - during manufacture, operation, and, eventually, decommissioning.  Fly ash is just as big a problem, long term, as spent fuel.  What do you do with it?  The same questions need to be applied to the byproducts of solar and wind manufacturing, use, and disposal.

+K

I've read a number of articles on this and it may or may not be solvable. Heavy metals in our environment to a large degree come from discarded electronics even with current recycling efforts.
Title: Re: Making renewable power more viable for the grid
Post by: GLW on Oct 13, 2017, 01:39
Quote from: Chimera on Oct 13, 2017, 01:09
One thing that never seems to be brought up in discussions of these supposedly "green" projects is the long-term consequences of the waste products produced - during manufacture, operation, and, eventually, decommissioning.  Fly ash is just as big a problem, long term, as spent fuel.  What do you do with it?  The same questions need to be applied to the byproducts of solar and wind manufacturing, use, and disposal.

There are several all inclusive comparisons, google the appropriate key words and start reading,...

the results are inconvenient truths, and so the green cheerleaders adopt a position that eventually these downsides will work themselves out,...

kinda like the spent fuel "challenges" from 30 years ago,...