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Title: Budding marijuana sector brings big load growth, efficiency challenges
Post by: Marlin on Nov 02, 2017, 11:39
This is not nuclear related specifically but does impact the grid and raises questions in my mind about Fitness for duty in the future. Most states allow medical marijuana and a few recreational. When it is legal what is impairment? My opinion is that alcohol limits are already lower than they should be for impairment. There will be more states legalizing it and perhaps the Federal laws revised as well. You could be fueling the marijuana industry and not allowed to partake.  8)

"That's just my opinion I could be wrong." Dennis Miller

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Budding marijuana sector brings big load growth, efficiency challenges for utilities


https://www.utilitydive.com/news/budding-marijuana-sector-brings-big-load-growth-efficiency-challenges-for/508267/
Title: Re: Budding marijuana sector brings big load growth, efficiency challenges
Post by: SloGlo on Nov 04, 2017, 10:50
their must bee a threshold for impairment consideration. know threshold, any measurable concentration represents impairment.
butt, aye fool many industries inn witch eye due knot consciously partake.
Title: Re: Budding marijuana sector brings big load growth, efficiency challenges
Post by: Atombob on Nov 08, 2017, 12:34
There is no measurable threshold for impairment. Different people react differently to the 100's of different cannabinoids and terpenes in cannabis. There is no real test for impairment either. Drug tests merely indicate the presence of THC metabolites, not THC itself. THC binds to fat and therefore is detectable weeks after use. It is very sad that something as beneficial as cannabis and that has never killed anyone is demonized.
CANNABIS CURES CANCER!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Budding marijuana sector brings big load growth, efficiency challenges
Post by: Marlin on Nov 08, 2017, 02:20
Quote from: Atombob on Nov 08, 2017, 12:34
CANNABIS CURES CANCER!!!!!!!!!

It may be to early to say that. The FDA disagrees.

FDA cracks down on bogus marijuana "cures" for cancer

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/fda-marijuana-cannabidiol-cancer-health-claims-crackdown/
Title: Re: Budding marijuana sector brings big load growth, efficiency challenges
Post by: Marlin on Nov 08, 2017, 02:44
Quote from: Atombob on Nov 08, 2017, 12:34
It is very sad that something as beneficial as cannabis and that has never killed anyone is demonized.

Title: Re: Budding marijuana sector brings big load growth, efficiency challenges
Post by: Marlin on Nov 08, 2017, 05:19
 [OT] but salient to the general conversation.

Serendipity strikes, I just got this article on one of my news feeds.

Against the Demonization of Drugs

http://quillette.com/2017/11/07/against-the-demonization-of-drugs/ (http://quillette.com/2017/11/07/against-the-demonization-of-drugs/)
Title: Re: Budding marijuana sector brings big load growth, efficiency challenges
Post by: SloGlo on Nov 08, 2017, 08:09
Quote from: Atombob on Nov 08, 2017, 12:34
There is no measurable threshold for impairment. Different people react differently to the 100's of different cannabinoids and terpenes in cannabis. There is no real test for impairment either. Drug tests merely indicate the presence of THC metabolites, not THC itself. THC binds to fat and therefore is detectable weeks after use. I
if a substance kin caws impairment n yew can't draw a threshold fore dose resultant too impairment, then any measurable quantity must and will bee considered as resulting in impairment. udder wise the legal liabilities are astronomical.
Title: Re: Budding marijuana sector brings big load growth, efficiency challenges
Post by: atomicarcheologist on Nov 15, 2017, 07:58
There is the capacity to determine if you have consumed cannabis. Now it's up to the industry to follow law enforcement into this new area of fitness.

https://www.today.com/money/meet-drugalyzer-can-it-tell-if-you-re-driving-while-t118251

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-31683571
Title: Re: Budding marijuana sector brings big load growth, efficiency challenges
Post by: Marlin on Nov 15, 2017, 08:30
Quote from: Atomic Archeologist on Nov 15, 2017, 07:58
There is the capacity to determine if you have consumed cannabis. Now it's up to the industry to follow law enforcement into this new area of fitness.

https://www.today.com/money/meet-drugalyzer-can-it-tell-if-you-re-driving-while-t118251

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-31683571

Removes another barrier to legalized recreational use but complications for work related impairment remain.

https://www.verywell.com/how-long-does-marijuana-stay-in-the-system-67791
Title: Re: Budding marijuana sector brings big load growth, efficiency challenges
Post by: atomicarcheologist on Nov 15, 2017, 06:56
The first sentence in your article addresses the impairment time frame. The Drugalyzer seems to have gotten on the same plane as law enforcement for this, using a five hour period for intake as detectable.
Title: Re: Budding marijuana sector brings big load growth, efficiency challenges
Post by: Marlin on Nov 15, 2017, 08:52
Quote from: Atomic Archeologist on Nov 15, 2017, 06:56
The first sentence in your article addresses the impairment time frame. The Drugalyzer seems to have gotten on the same plane as law enforcement for this, using a five hour period for intake as detectable.

That is for THC the active ingredient other tests not specific to THC will still have long detectable time frames.
Title: Re: Budding marijuana sector brings big load growth, efficiency challenges
Post by: atomicarcheologist on Nov 15, 2017, 09:47
I thought we were discussing marijuana and how it is referenced in FFD. Delta 9 is the impairing cannabinoid. That would be what the instrument is reading, at least that is my understanding.
Title: Re: Budding marijuana sector brings big load growth, efficiency challenges
Post by: Marlin on Nov 15, 2017, 10:09
Quote from: Atomic Archeologist on Nov 15, 2017, 09:47
I thought we were discussing marijuana and how it is referenced in FFD. Delta 9 is the impairing cannabinoid. That would be what the instrument is reading, at least that is my understanding.

    Yes but as it stands tests for marijuana in the workplace are not specific to the active ingredients. Any detection is considered impairment. The metabolites analyzed for in the drug tests are not the active components of marijuana that cause impairment and are detectable for a long period of time. Regulations and testing will have to change but nothing dictates that any facility is or would be required to.
Title: Re: Budding marijuana sector brings big load growth, efficiency challenges
Post by: Atombob on Nov 17, 2017, 12:18
Keep drinking that reefer madness kool-aid Marlin. That video is so full of it!


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-ksheed
Title: Re: Budding marijuana sector brings big load growth, efficiency challenges
Post by: Marlin on Nov 19, 2017, 10:07
Quote from: Atombob on Nov 17, 2017, 12:18
Keep drinking that reefer madness kool-aid Marlin. That video is so full of it!


Modified for language per Forum Rules.
-ksheed

NIH Drugs facts  ::)

https://www.drugabuse.gov/publications/drugfacts/marijuana (https://www.drugabuse.gov/publications/drugfacts/marijuana)
Title: Re: Budding marijuana sector brings big load growth, efficiency challenges
Post by: atomicarcheologist on Nov 20, 2017, 10:20
Quote from: Marlin on Nov 19, 2017, 10:07
NIH Drugs facts  ::)

https://www.drugabuse.gov/publications/drugfacts/marijuana (https://www.drugabuse.gov/publications/drugfacts/marijuana)
I am unsure of what you're referencing here.
In the venue of impairment:
Biological half-life
1.6–59 h,[3] 25–36 h (orally administered dronabinol)
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tetrahydrocannabinol

In the venue of detection:

11-COOH-THC is not psychoactive itself, but has a long half-life in the body of up to several days (or even weeks in very heavy users),[4][5][6] making it the main metabolite tested for blood or urine testing for cannabis use.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/11-Nor-9-carboxy-THC
Title: Re: Budding marijuana sector brings big load growth, efficiency challenges
Post by: GLW on Nov 20, 2017, 11:30
sorry snowflakes but,....NO!!! you cannot have it all,....

IF you want to work nuclear THEN you'll just have to deal without cannabis being a part of your lifestyle,...

there's always Starbucks, Apple, Microsoft, Facebook, Google, Chipotle, et al,...



Title: Re: Budding marijuana sector brings big load growth, efficiency challenges
Post by: atomicarcheologist on Nov 20, 2017, 02:03
Quote from: GLW on Nov 20, 2017, 11:30
sorry snowflakes but,....NO!!! you cannot have it all,....

IF you want to work nuclear THEN you'll just have to deal without cannabis being a part of your lifestyle,...

there's always Starbucks, Apple, Microsoft, Facebook, Google, Chipotle, et al,...

I don't want it all. I just want intelligent enforcement in lieu of the current 'wink, wink, nod, nod' "we can catch them"  style.
Title: Re: Budding marijuana sector brings big load growth, efficiency challenges
Post by: Marlin on Nov 20, 2017, 02:36
Quote from: Atomic Archeologist on Nov 20, 2017, 10:20
I am unsure of what you're referencing here.
In the venue of impairment:
Biological half-life
1.6–59 h,[3] 25–36 h (orally administered dronabinol)
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tetrahydrocannabinol

In the venue of detection:

11-COOH-THC is not psychoactive itself, but has a long half-life in the body of up to several days (or even weeks in very heavy users),[4][5][6] making it the main metabolite tested for blood or urine testing for cannabis use.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/11-Nor-9-carboxy-THC

I was responding to Atombob