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Title: Closing Indian Point nuclear plant will not hurt reliability, New York ISO says
Post by: Marlin on Dec 15, 2017, 10:46

Closing Indian Point nuclear plant will not hurt reliability, New York ISO says


https://www.utilitydive.com/news/closing-indian-point-nuclear-plant-will-not-hurt-reliability-new-york-iso/513093/
Title: Re: Closing Indian Point nuclear plant will not hurt reliability, New York ISO says
Post by: Chimera on Dec 16, 2017, 02:12
Quote from: Marlin on Dec 15, 2017, 10:46
Closing Indian Point nuclear plant will not hurt reliability, New York ISO says


https://www.utilitydive.com/news/closing-indian-point-nuclear-plant-will-not-hurt-reliability-new-york-iso/513093/

A question out of my own ignorance:  Would these new natural gas plants be fed straight from a pipeline of is gas storage involved?  If gas storage is involved, how much gas and what kind of impact would that have in this world of modern-day terrorism who seem to love to pick on big cities?
Title: Re: Closing Indian Point nuclear plant will not hurt reliability, New York ISO says
Post by: Marlin on Dec 16, 2017, 02:36
Quote from: Chimera on Dec 16, 2017, 02:12
A question out of my own ignorance:  Would these new natural gas plants be fed straight from a pipeline of is gas storage involved?  If gas storage is involved, how much gas and what kind of impact would that have in this world of modern-day terrorism who seem to love to pick on big cities?

   Would love an answer to those questions myself. I would think there would have to be new pipelines to supply them but there is no new traffic I can find on the web. As to the terminals a rupture to a large tank and an ignition of the gas cloud would be a civilian MOAB. The Port Ambrose Terminal off the coast of New York and New Jersey is still off the table as far as I know.
Title: Re: Closing Indian Point nuclear plant will not hurt reliability, New York ISO says
Post by: GLW on Dec 16, 2017, 02:46
Quote from: Marlin on Dec 16, 2017, 02:36
   Would love an answer to those questions myself. I would think there would have to be new pipelines to supply them but there is no new traffic I can find on the web. As to the terminals a rupture to a large tank and an ignition of the gas cloud would be a civilian MOAB. The Port Ambrose Terminal off the coast of New York and New Jersey is still off the table as far as I know.

beat this to 'ell a long time ago

https://www.nukeworker.com/forum/index.php/topic,27996.msg198204.html (https://www.nukeworker.com/forum/index.php/topic,27996.msg198204.html#msg198204)

https://www.nukeworker.com/forum/index.php/topic,41771.msg195542.html (https://www.nukeworker.com/forum/index.php/topic,41771.msg195542.html#msg195542)
Title: Re: Closing Indian Point nuclear plant will not hurt reliability, New York ISO says
Post by: Marlin on Dec 17, 2017, 12:32
Quote from: GLW on Dec 16, 2017, 02:46
beat this to 'ell a long time ago

https://www.nukeworker.com/forum/index.php/topic,27996.msg198204.html (https://www.nukeworker.com/forum/index.php/topic,27996.msg198204.html#msg198204)

https://www.nukeworker.com/forum/index.php/topic,41771.msg195542.html (https://www.nukeworker.com/forum/index.php/topic,41771.msg195542.html#msg195542)

A bit passe when they plan to build new gas power plants.
Title: Re: Closing Indian Point nuclear plant will not hurt reliability, New York ISO says
Post by: SloGlo on Dec 17, 2017, 03:44
Quote from: Marlin on Dec 16, 2017, 02:36
   Would love an answer to those questions myself.
knot having searched pipeline construction, butt idly reeding has lead me two the conclusion that l.p.g. plants have storage wile gas  run from pipeline supply.
Title: Re: Closing Indian Point nuclear plant will not hurt reliability, New York ISO says
Post by: TVA on Dec 17, 2017, 03:47
Exactly lots of it.
Title: Re: Closing Indian Point nuclear plant will not hurt reliability, New York ISO says
Post by: Marlin on Dec 17, 2017, 04:45
Quote from: SloGlo on Dec 17, 2017, 03:44
knot having searched pipeline construction, butt idly reeding has lead me two the conclusion that l.p.g. plants have storage wile gas  run from pipeline supply.

Yes that is the issue new pipelines have been blocked so far and there is a shortage of them for New York.

ConEd Cites Need for NatGas Pipelines as New York Demand Grows

http://www.naturalgasintel.com/articles/111958-coned-cites-need-for-natgas-pipelines-as-new-york-demand-grows
Title: Re: Closing Indian Point nuclear plant will not hurt reliability, New York ISO says
Post by: GLW on Dec 18, 2017, 02:25
Quote from: Marlin on Dec 17, 2017, 04:45
Yes that is the issue new pipelines have been blocked so far and there is a shortage of them for New York.

ConEd Cites Need for NatGas Pipelines as New York Demand Grows

http://www.naturalgasintel.com/articles/111958-coned-cites-need-for-natgas-pipelines-as-new-york-demand-grows

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Title: Re: Closing Indian Point nuclear plant will not hurt reliability, New York ISO says
Post by: Chimera on Dec 19, 2017, 01:48
Consolidated Edison = ConEd . . . . not ComEd.  That would be Illinois.
Title: Re: Closing Indian Point nuclear plant will not hurt reliability, New York ISO says
Post by: GLW on Dec 19, 2017, 05:01
Quote from: Chimera on Dec 19, 2017, 01:48
Consolidated Edison = ConEd . . . . not ComEd.  That would be Illinois.

that would make you correct and me incorrect:




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