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Title: The future of nuclear power in the US is bleak
Post by: Marlin on Jun 25, 2018, 11:59
The future of nuclear power in the US is bleak


http://thehill.com/opinion/energy-environment/393717-the-future-of-nuclear-power-in-the-us-is-bleak
Title: Re: The future of nuclear power in the US is bleak
Post by: TVA on Jun 25, 2018, 07:10
Gee havent I been saying this for months?
Title: Re: The future of nuclear power in the US is bleak
Post by: hamsamich on Jun 25, 2018, 07:44
Yeah thank goodness for your informative prognosis.  Right again!
Title: Re: The future of nuclear power in the US is bleak
Post by: SloGlo on Jun 26, 2018, 12:32
Quote from: TVA on Jun 25, 2018, 07:10
Gee havent I been saying this for months?
sum peeps bin saying it four thirty years...
Title: Re: The future of nuclear power in the US is bleak
Post by: Marlin on Jun 26, 2018, 09:31
Quote from: TVA on Jun 25, 2018, 07:10
Gee havent I been saying this for months?

   It is news and an opinion from one side of a discussion part of a debate not everyone agrees with you or M. V. Ramana. Many people and companies are investing money in addition to subsidies provided by the DOE. Fluor is invested and partnered with NuScale. Bechtel and Energy Solutions have worked with them for SMRs in particular the one for Idaho. I suspect you did not get by the Title nor engaged in any intellectual effort beyond that of a Troll in evaluating the article and your response is terse and void of substance as usual. The article is more negative than most nuclear news and flies in the face of the construction and development of nuclear power around the world. Sorry your little part of the nuclear industry is declining but there is a big world outside your little pond.

:old:

[coffee]
Title: Re: The future of nuclear power in the US is bleak
Post by: RDTroja on Jun 26, 2018, 11:10
Marlin, you are very close to violating your second rule... be careful.
Title: Re: The future of nuclear power in the US is bleak
Post by: fiveeleven on Jun 26, 2018, 11:44
QuoteGee havent I been saying this for months?
The only entity even approaching this mans continued level of knowledge and expertise is ... you guessed it - the inventor of the WABAC machine. Condescension was purposely left out of the descriptive string due to our perception of Mr. Peabody not inclusive of this pervasive trait. If only he and Sherman were aware of this being, things may be different. He, along with the should have been modification of the WABAC machine could perhaps have influenced the current state of affairs in US nuclear power. After 34.3 years as a 3.1 Sr. RPT, and a 6 and out Navy ELT, my career comes to a close this Thursday at the Kewaunee Fuel Storage facility. I depart with these words: It often times does not matter how radiation interacts with matter, but when it does matter, it matters a lot. MM2/ELT USS NIMITZ CVN-68 1980-1984. BOHICA.
Title: Re: The future of nuclear power in the US is bleak
Post by: Marlin on Jun 26, 2018, 12:06
Quote from: RDTroja on Jun 26, 2018, 11:10
Marlin, you are very close to violating your second rule... be careful.

Noted, I will endeavour to comply but, the  [devious] and  :old: seem to win out more often than they should  ;D .


[coffee]
Title: Re: The future of nuclear power in the US is bleak
Post by: Marlin on Jun 26, 2018, 12:16
Quote from: fiveeleven on Jun 26, 2018, 11:44
my career comes to a close this Thursday at the Kewaunee Fuel Storage facility. I depart with these words: It often times does not matter how radiation interacts with matter, but when it does matter, it matters a lot. MM2/ELT USS NIMITZ CVN-68 1980-1984. BOHICA.

   Congrats and enjoy, but I have found that I am busier and do more work retired (semi-retired) and BossLady is trying to make a farmer out of me. So far just chickens but she is trying to sell me on a couple of beef cows, a few pigs, and goats.


   Retirement is just a new job where you and family are the boss.  8)




Title: Re: The future of nuclear power in the US is bleak
Post by: GLW on Jun 26, 2018, 01:44
Quote from: fiveeleven on Jun 26, 2018, 11:44
....After 34.3 years as a 3.1 Sr. RPT, and a 6 and out Navy ELT, my career comes to a close this Thursday at the Kewaunee Fuel Storage facility....

does 3.1 matter at Kewaunee?

it's just a number,...
Title: Re: The future of nuclear power in the US is bleak
Post by: fiveeleven on Jun 26, 2018, 03:20
Currently not too much in general matters at Kewaunee. 3.1 appears to still matter in the 1987 version. There were RP matters at Kewaunee in which the 3.1 mattered: solo free release, solo HRA coverage and most matters pertaining to radiographic metal testing come to mind. As of Thursday, 28Jun18 - it sure as heck wont matter to me. Fair winds and following seas to all that matter.
Title: Re: The future of nuclear power in the US is bleak
Post by: SloGlo on Jun 26, 2018, 03:45
3.1 future is bleak, c.i.r.p. is now the title de jour.
Title: Re: The future of nuclear power in the US is bleak
Post by: Marlin on Jun 26, 2018, 04:37
Quote from: SloGlo on Jun 26, 2018, 03:45
c.i.r.p.

???
Title: Re: The future of nuclear power in the US is bleak
Post by: retired nuke on Jun 27, 2018, 06:42
 [coffee]
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Quote from: fiveeleven on Jun 26, 2018, 11:44
After 34.3 years as a 3.1 Sr. RPT, and a 6 and out Navy ELT, my career comes to a close this Thursday at the Kewaunee Fuel Storage facility. I depart with these words: It often times does not matter how radiation interacts with matter, but when it does matter, it matters a lot. MM2/ELT USS NIMITZ CVN-68 1980-1984. BOHICA.

I am (hopefully) 120 days behind you. 1st generator jump - 11/79. Scheduled to end 10/18.
Hillary isn't President
Pot is legal
I'm gonna be fine ;-)

Title: Re: The future of nuclear power in the US is bleak
Post by: SloGlo on Jun 27, 2018, 09:59
Quote from: Marlin on Jun 26, 2018, 04:37
???
common industry radiation protection
http://www.bhienergy.com/eb-17-01/
Title: Re: The future of nuclear power in the US is bleak
Post by: SloGlo on Jun 27, 2018, 10:04
Quote from: fiveeleven on Jun 26, 2018, 11:44
After 34.3 years as a 3.1 Sr. RPT, and a 6 and out Navy ELT,...

yins due any junior thyme, oar roll strait from u.s.n. two 3.1?
Title: Re: The future of nuclear power in the US is bleak
Post by: Marlin on Jun 27, 2018, 10:31
Quote from: SloGlo on Jun 27, 2018, 09:59
common industry radiation protection
http://www.bhienergy.com/eb-17-01/

Thanx
Title: Re: The future of nuclear power in the US is bleak
Post by: hamsamich on Jun 27, 2018, 11:04
http://thehill.com/opinion/campaign/393968-dont-let-coal-country-voters-overshadow-nuclear-voters


rural voters anyone?
Title: Re: The future of nuclear power in the US is bleak
Post by: fiveeleven on Jun 27, 2018, 11:29
Quote from: SloGlo on Jun 27, 2018, 10:04
yins due any junior thyme, oar roll strait from u.s.n. two 3.1?
I was never: a guard, a deconner, an intern, a junior, an 18.1. As stated and well beknownst to many over the years that sailed the NW seas - standing fast to the right of the admiral - was an ELT.
Title: Re: The future of nuclear power in the US is bleak
Post by: SloGlo on Jun 27, 2018, 06:33
Quote from: fiveeleven on Jun 27, 2018, 11:29
I was never: a guard, a deconner, an intern, a junior, an 18.1. As stated and well beknownst to many over the years that sailed the NW seas - standing fast to the right of the admiral - was an ELT.
under stood. even an admiral kneads a... handwarmer now n then.
Title: Re: The future of nuclear power in the US is bleak
Post by: GLW on Jun 27, 2018, 08:30
Quote from: fiveeleven on Jun 27, 2018, 11:29
I was never: a guard, a deconner, an intern, a junior, an 18.1. As stated and well beknownst to many over the years that sailed the NW seas - standing fast to the right of the admiral - was an ELT.

well, technically, anywhere that required you to be an 18.1 to work, you were an 18.1,....

18.1 is not an RP qual step,....

it's an ANSI standard,....

primarily based on hours worked,...

a bunch of 0288 Art. 108 qualified techs with 400 hours of deckplate time are really dam good techs who most likely will not meet the 18.1 standard,...

too many 18.1 techs pert much suck,...


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Title: Re: The future of nuclear power in the US is bleak
Post by: hamsamich on Jun 27, 2018, 11:32
Sheeeeeeeat when i was an ELT I licked many a bilge clean....for like 3 bucks an hour.
Title: Re: The future of nuclear power in the US is bleak
Post by: RDTroja on Jun 28, 2018, 06:35
Quote from: GLW on Jun 27, 2018, 08:30
well, technically, anywhere that required you to be an 18.1 to work, you were an 18.1,....

18.1 is not an RP qual step,....

it's an ANSI standard,....

primarily based on hours worked,...

a bunch of 0288 Art. 108 qualified techs with 400 hours of deckplate time are really dam good techs who most likely will not meet the 18.1 standard,...

too many 18.1 techs pert much suck,...

Well, if you really want to get technical, ANSI (American National Standards Institute)  N18.1 was superceded by ANSI/ANS (American Nuclear Society) 3.1 and therefore is no longer a standard at all. Some plants never adopted the new standard and never changed their requirements. I would guess the new standard was written patially because it was determined that the requirements were not sufficient to ensure the techs didn't "pert much suck." How well did that work?
Title: Re: The future of nuclear power in the US is bleak
Post by: GLW on Jun 28, 2018, 07:06
Quote from: RDTroja on Jun 28, 2018, 06:35
Well, if you really want to get technical, ANSI (American National Standards Institute)  N18.1 was superceded by ANSI/ANS (American Nuclear Society) 3.1 and therefore is no longer a standard at all. Some plants never adopted the new standard and never changed their requirements. I would guess the new standard was written patially because it was determined that the requirements were not sufficient to ensure the techs didn't "pert much suck." How well did that work?

these is nothing there I could legitimately disagree with,...

so,.............worked well,.... :P ;) :) 8)
Title: Re: The future of nuclear power in the US is bleak
Post by: SloGlo on Jul 01, 2018, 11:51
it awl started two suck when a.n.s.i. dropped the wording describing 24 months spent at an operating nuke power plant from the standards description. imho, that is.