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Loffy Muffin:
Gee, ask a simple question....which is better ogang/egang for commercial power?  this thread is comical.  Reminds me of that commercial where someone is choking and you have 10 knuckleheads discusing the different ways to clear the throat and one guy does it while you have 10 people bickering.

Straight up, the LT with an engineer degree and 5 years in the Navy is going to be hired over an E-5/6 getting out at the 6year point but....There should be jobs for the 6 and splitters.....so:

...its not worth the extra commitment required to get the paid for degree and come back to uncle sam for the payback as an officer. You'll have 12 long years invested for that degree.  Six and split, if you are alright with commercial ops. This assumes, and it is a safe assumption, that the demand for commercial operators will continue in the future and will be there in 2012 when you get out.  They should just be building plants by then and need people to train to operate them.  You should be set up nice.  You can go to the interview and ask them why you should consider taking their training and 6 figure salary when you have so many others that are demanding your services.   Or you can go officer and just be getting out of engineering school (at best) and looking at 5 more years in the Navy at ensign pay. 

Is the freaking horse dead yet?

Gamecock:

--- Quote from: Loffy Muffin on Mar 02, 2008, 07:32 ---Gee, ask a simple question....which is better ogang/egang for commercial power?  this thread is comical.  Reminds me of that commercial where someone is choking and you have 10 knuckleheads discusing the different ways to clear the throat and one guy does it while you have 10 people bickering.

Straight up, the LT with an engineer degree and 5 years in the Navy is going to be hired over an E-5/6 getting out at the 6year point but....There should be jobs for the 6 and splitters.....so:

...its not worth the extra commitment required to get the paid for degree and come back to uncle sam for the payback as an officer. You'll have 12 long years invested for that degree.  Six and split, if you are alright with commercial ops. This assumes, and it is a safe assumption, that the demand for commercial operators will continue in the future and will be there in 2012 when you get out.  They should just be building plants by then and need people to train to operate them.  You should be set up nice.  You can go to the interview and ask them why you should consider taking their training and 6 figure salary when you have so many others that are demanding your services.   Or you can go officer and just be getting out of engineering school (at best) and looking at 5 more years in the Navy at ensign pay. 

Is the freaking horse dead yet?

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Don't forget those years of college count towards retirement!!!

5 Years of Ensign pay???? 
2 years of O1E pay, 2 years of O2E pay, 1 year of O3E pay....

Decide to stay in at this point....
O3E pay...+25K/yr nuke bonus..that equates to more then $100K/yr

Now the other part that your missing is the other opportunities that are there for your taking as a nuclear trained officer.  I got a Masters degree in Engineering Management from Old Dominion University for next to nothing.  All nuke officers can do this!!

Now I'm getting a masters degree in Nuclear Engineering from MIT..paid for by your tax dollars....thanks to the navy.

There are other programs out there....chances to get MBA's from Harvard or other extremely prestigious universities.  What will your starting salary be after getting an MBA from Harvard???  As an officer, you will get a master's degree...maybe even multiple masters degrees.

Bottom line....

Stay navy...get commissioned.....retire...gua ranteed income for life...then move on!!!  Start a second career while your still young and viable.

And the best part...the part you can't put a price tag on...the opportunity to lead the best and brightest that this country has to offer. 


ddklbl:

--- Quote from: Gamecock on Mar 02, 2008, 09:29 ---I got a Masters degree in Engineering Management from Old Dominion University for next to nothing.  All nukes can do this!!

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To get accepted through the Navy College Program, only those that are graduates of Officer NPS are eligible.  Well, eligible for the 12 credit hour waiver. 

This is a snippet from an email I dug up in my outlook archive


--- Quote ---Your message was forwarded to me for reply.  I've attached a summary of our program guide which should answer your question.  The admissions requirements for the CD-Rom option are straightforward.  For a student to be awarded the 12 credit hours of advanced standing for he Navy's asynchronous program, graduation from the Officer Nuclear Power pipeline is a requirement.  This is because the officer program is the only curriculum that has been reviewed and certified for transfer credit toward the Master of Engineering Management Program. 
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But, yes. I agree. There are many opportunities available, otherwise.

sfrederick:

--- Quote from: Broadzilla on Feb 29, 2008, 11:03 ---You're right, you're a NUB who knows nothing about nuclear power, I'm a former ELT who somehow has managed to obtain 3 license from the NRC. In about 15 to 18 months you'll be qualified to comment.

QA and ELT are not related, they are totally different functions.

Mike

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I apologize for the confusion.  I want to be an ELT in the Navy, then change careers and do QA in the civilian sector.  I wouldn't want to be an ELT for too long; might become a rageaholic.
Now, I started with a reasonable question and I did my best to answer the questions that were asked of me afterwards (which admittedly, I wasn't prepared to answer).  If my answer to the question had any consequence other than Broadzilla's misplaced rage, I would have said that I really don't know (rather than trying to start somewhere).
As for applying for an officer package being a "bother", I already plan on staying enlisted.  I didn't enlist as a back-up plan--I already made my choice.  My intent in starting this thread was to gather the last bit of information I wanted to rule out the officer program (because I don't plan on retiring from the Navy).  Thank you for your time.

JustinHEMI05:

--- Quote from: sfrederick on Mar 04, 2008, 08:39 ---I apologize for the confusion.  I want to be an ELT in the Navy, then change careers and do QA in the civilian sector.  I wouldn't want to be an ELT for too long; might become a rageaholic.
Now, I started with a reasonable question and I did my best to answer the questions that were asked of me afterwards (which admittedly, I wasn't prepared to answer).  If my answer to the question had any consequence other than Broadzilla's misplaced rage, I would have said that I really don't know (rather than trying to start somewhere).
As for applying for an officer package being a "bother", I already plan on staying enlisted.  I didn't enlist as a back-up plan--I already made my choice.  My intent in starting this thread was to gather the last bit of information I wanted to rule out the officer program (because I don't plan on retiring from the Navy).  Thank you for your time.

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You didn't do anything wrong. Sometimes people take things the wrong way. Just look at this thread. :) Welcome, congrats, and good luck.

Justin

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