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Enlisted vs. Officer
Nuclear NASCAR:
--- Quote from: sfrederick on Feb 27, 2008, 05:00 ---Would being a nuclear officer be better or worse experience for working in the civilian sector? Would an enlisted person with a bachelor's degree be more or less valuable?
I'd think that an officer would know less about the job than the enlisted person who is actually doing the work.
Any input?
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I know this sounds like dancing around it a little but it depends on what work you're looking at doing in the private sector. An officer might be more acclimated to the daily B.S. that gets high level decisions made while not completely understanding the work that's being done or the frustration being experienced by those he supervises, if he goes that route.
An enlisted person with a bachelors degree could be considered more valuable in some situations, both in management or as a worker on the shop floor. Due to their background they might be able to "translate" between worker bee and mid to upper management and vice versa.
Could you give an idea of which route you are thinking of? By the way, Welcome to Nukeworker and Thanks for your service to our country!
Tom
ddklbl:
What I am saying, in regard to the original post, is there is no difference between officer and enlisted on the outside for those who do a short stint and bolt.
What I am saying about the entry level charge, is it is a pointless argument. As crass a notion would be for a commercial guy to join the navy, his license doesn't give him any different edge than anyone else. He is entry level. For a navy guy hiring on at a utility, he is entry level. For a PWR SRO to hire on at a BWR, he too is entry level because his current license does not transfer; he too has to start from the beginning. Entry level is a useless, hollow phrase that only describes the obvious. Recertification requires you to start from the beginning. People on this board use it as a divisive and demeaning argument to suggest that there is some sort of class system in power plant operations based solely on your previous experience. Nope, prior commercial and prior navy guys qualify the same position, work the same shift, probably getting paid near the same salary when things are said and done.
As far as the trust issue goes, I agree that previous commercial guys are quicker to earn the trust, but that's dangerous and unwarranted. How many times, Justin, did an 18 year Chief, who was trusted more than the dirty blue shirt, screw the pooch standing EDO because of the commands misplaced confidence in his "experience". Was his trust warranted by deference to his previous experience on other platforms?
JustinHEMI05:
--- Quote from: dd on Feb 28, 2008, 12:35 ---What I am saying, in regard to the original post, is there is no difference between officer and enlisted on the outside for those who do a short stint and bolt.
What I am saying about the entry level charge, is it is a pointless argument. As crass a notion would be for a commercial guy to join the navy, his license doesn't give him any different edge than anyone else. He is entry level. For a navy guy hiring on at a utility, he is entry level. For a PWR SRO to hire on at a BWR, he too is entry level because his current license does not transfer; he too has to start from the beginning. Entry level is a useless, hollow phrase that only describes the obvious. Recertification requires you to start from the beginning. People on this board use it as a divisive and demeaning argument to suggest that there is some sort of class system in power plant operations based solely on your previous experience. Nope, prior commercial and prior navy guys qualify the same position, work the same shift, probably getting paid near the same salary when things are said and done.
As far as the trust issue goes, I agree that previous commercial guys are quicker to earn the trust, but that's dangerous and unwarranted. How many times, Justin, did an 18 year Chief, who was trusted more than the dirty blue shirt, screw the pooch standing EDO because of the commands misplaced confidence in his "experience". Was his trust warranted by deference to his previous experience on other platforms?
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I think this thread has quickly taken a turn in a direction it wasn't supposed to go. At this point, I will just agree to disagree and shut up.
Justin
mlslstephens:
--- Quote from: JustinHEMI on Feb 28, 2008, 02:54 ---I think this thread has quickly taken a turn in a direction it wasn't supposed to go. At this point, I will just agree to disagree and shut up.
Justin
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Did you watch the video? :) I'm proud of you Justin. Here's some Karma your way. ;)
JustinHEMI05:
--- Quote from: NaVLI4 on Feb 28, 2008, 06:08 ---Did you watch the video? :) I'm proud of you Justin. Here's some Karma your way. ;)
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No it has nothing to do with the video, but sometimes its just pointless to argue, especially if the argument has nothing to do with the actual topic. And, I just really didn't have it in me to carry this one on anymore :) Thanks for the K :)
Justin
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