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Nuclear Renaissance

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Running Unit Manning During Dual-Unit Outage
« on: Sep 27, 2010, 02:28 »
Anyone have any experience maximizing the amount of hours that running unit operators can work (dual-unit site with other unit refueling) under the new fatigue rules? Most basically, I see that 10CFR26 would be limiting by the need for 2.5 days off per week averaged over a cycle, which would necessitate a 4 on, 3 off, 5 on, 2 off, 4 on, 3 off, repeat.

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Re: Running Unit Manning During Dual-Unit Outage
« Reply #1 on: Sep 30, 2010, 03:19 »
4/1 takes care of the 3 off in 15 outage rule. I mean it really comes down to how many positions you have to fill (min-staffing), how many operators you assign to the outage teams, clearance office, etc.

Eventually a 4/1 schedule means you eventually will have 2 days off in a calendar week. Sometimes you can work 4 shifts in a row one week and then a 5, but eventually you will be forced by the 3 in 15 rule to have days off.

Its easier if everyone goes on outage rules, IMO its implausible to mix online and offline, because what if an outage NLO pulls a duty shift on the online reactor? Does he or she fall under online or outage rules? If a duty NLO does outage work..etc..etc.

Of course I am assuming the plants share resources between the OPS department not two completely separate unitized entities.




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Re: Running Unit Manning During Dual-Unit Outage
« Reply #2 on: Sep 30, 2010, 05:22 »
Actually you are allowed to mix them.

At my facility online does 4 on 3 off. The online guys can work something like 2 or 3 OT days in a 30 day outage.

The outage unit is 4 and 1.

What surprises me is how a Shift Manager at a Multi Unit Site can be considered on Outage unit hours when by law an SM isn't required to be at an outage unit!

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Re: Running Unit Manning During Dual-Unit Outage
« Reply #3 on: Oct 07, 2010, 10:40 »
I think my head would explode trying to keep track of a mixed rules group of operators. However, a 4/3 during an outage? That sounds nice.

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Re: Running Unit Manning During Dual-Unit Outage
« Reply #4 on: Oct 07, 2010, 05:11 »
In my opinion multi unit sites should be treated as the entire site being in an outage. There's too much potential to cross contaminate. Example, a Unit 1 NLO during an outage is in the Aux Building. A tank needs to be recirced to support the outage. The Radwaste NLO asks the Unit 1 NLO to peer check him. Outage work or not?

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Re: Running Unit Manning During Dual-Unit Outage
« Reply #5 on: Oct 07, 2010, 05:22 »
$110,000 fine if the VP guesses wrong, and millions saved if it isn't noticed.

We know how it will be interpreted  >:( 

 


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