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Is it possible they just saw my De-nuking and refunded the bonus without even checking the situation?
Hey, new to the boards and haven't been able to find anything to answer my question, so here goes.First some background:In nuke school I got an ARI, wasn't masted or punished in any way (Basically just passed out drunk on the beach, but a civilian though I might have AP and so called the ambulance against my friends objections.) I got "treated" and continued with my school, got through prototype NP, and when I got to my first command the DAPA their decided I hadn't been treated adequately and sent me to see SARP, who referred me to mental health, who treated me for depression and pulled me off the submarine while telling me it wasn't the end of the world and I wouldn't get de-nuked or de-sub.My first 6 month limdu just ended and they were going to med-board me but I was improving so after basically begging to be given another chance because I'm hoping to get back to my old self and go back to work they extended me another 6 months. They also De-nuked and De-sub'd me, which bummed me out, but the worst is they are taking back my bonus pretty much cutting my paycheck by 1/3. There is nothing I could have done to avoid being pulled, other than just lying to mental health about what is going on with me. I have a wife and kid and alot of bills and was barely getting by before.I thought they couldn't pull my bonus unless I had voluntarily separated or done something illegal and been masted out. Is this something I should pursue? Is it possible they just saw my De-nuking and refunded the bonus without even checking the situation? I am starting to think maybe it isn't worth it to try to stay in and I should just stop fighting it and let them separate me.
I'm not going to go into detail about my personal problems except to say it has nothing to do with work and isn't anyone's business.
But you came here looking for validation on any possible upside (how do I get my NEC/money back?)Step 1 - We admitted we were powerless over our addiction - that our lives had become unmanageable
Not sure what you mean, could you clarify?Step 2 - We came to believe that a Power greater than ourselves could restore us to sanity
Alot did happen between my ARI and getting pulled, about half of power school and all of prototype... I never heard anything else about the ARI until I got to my first command and they wanted me to see SARP because the DAPA there felt I hadn't been treaded adequately despite having kept my nose clean for over a year. The SARP medical officer (who is a psychologist) asked me some questions which I answered honestly and then referred me to mental health, who treated me for a few months and then disqualified me the week before I went on my first underway. Other details are just personal matters than never involved the Navy until I was referred to mental health and are 100% unrelated to alcohol, my ARI, or my job performance. The ARI is something that quite literally has nothing to do with my situation except for the fact that getting it led to me being seen by a psychologist who either screwed my career or saved me from a psychotic break, I'm honestly not sure which, but it's probably the latter.I'm not going to go into detail about my personal problems except to say it has nothing to do with work and isn't anyone's business. Fact is I was de-nuked for a medical condition which will likely lead to me being separated if I can't get it together soon and was looking for advice on enlistment bonuses preferably from someone who had been in the same or similar situation. I wasn't really looking for life advice since I have that coming out of my ears at this point, but honest thanks for trying. "Smooth Operator", I'm not sure if you were trolling with the "sad panda" crack, but it definately seems like you were and I have no interest in feeding the trolls thanks.
I don't know, the devil is in the details.
Other details are just personal matters than never involved the Navy until I was referred to mental health and are 100% unrelated to alcohol, my ARI, or my job performance. in feeding the trolls thanks.
My guess is that those "personal matters" involved a pre-exisiting condition which you failed to disclose prior to entering the navy. As such, we can take your bonus back for fraudulent enlistment.
Take the separation and start from there. Be honest with yourself and what you need to do. Sit down with people that love you and ask them for support and their honest opinion on how you have been and what they would like to see you do. DO NOT SPEAK OR REACT AT ALL during this. If you do they will not tell you what you need to hear. Recovery has a high failure rate, decide every day when you get up where you want to be.
Personally I'm hoping to read of a success story sometime in the future
I even remember the story of a young lad whose TLD was removed and was forced to be a Nuclear Janitor for a while. last I heard he is doing okay )
Well that is good news. So are you re-paying some money or just not getting future money? Also, this money..are we talking your initial enlistment bonus or a STAR relenlistment or combination of both. I could not ascertain were exactly you were in your time served, but it seemed somewhere near to where you'd be eligible to STAR-up.Also, I don't think anyone here wants to know information covered under HIPPA, but it is very hard to discuss an issue like yours in an open forum without having details. A question like how do I get my money back is best not answered here because no one knows your disciplinary record, academic record, medical status, etc etc, all them there things that I am assuming the Navy decision makers use to determine how you will get processed.Its a Catch-22.And lastly, sorry for the Sad Panda remark. I was not trolling. My initial read of your story was that you got drunk and ended up in a ridiculous spiralling situation. I was not intending to make light of your actual medical condition.
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